Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[Avatar4321]

Is mealy-mouth Carson trying to insinuate or plant the illusion that President Obama may be a Muslim? That sounds like a Trump tactic. What other reason would Carson have for even bringing up such a subject at this time?

He was asked about it.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Gesuz, where does that leave all the people that are living off govt paid subsidies?

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Carson thinks a Muslim's beliefs are in conflict with the Constitution,

and yet, Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison is pro-choice; Carson is anti-choice,

and abortion is a constitutionally protected right.

Who is conflict with the Constitution?

Abortion is a constitutionally protected right? Ha ha ha. What a joke!

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The fact that *you* want sovereignty over a woman's body makes you no less a sharia law wanna be.

 

[LittleNipper]

You all have seen how the Muslin Islam haters react to pictures of what we have done ....they shrug and call it "war" and that resolves all moral issues ..."hey its war" LOl

This is the nut bag other genius response

"victims of war for the past 5000 years" but I only used samples from the last half of the 20 th century and 21 st century...there was no napalm 5000 years ago

This poster talks as though the wars create themselves

We did go to war with Nazi Germany and many Americans died as well as 15 million Germans. I'm sure you have some pretty horrific pictures of Germans when the allies bombed the shit out of Dresden. Didn't make the Germans right though. Neither did it make the Japanese right when America cooked hundreds of Japanese by dropping the A bomb on them. Your response qualifies you for ADD treatment.

I think the state shouldn't pay and sponsor murder of an unborn child, just because a woman or man fucked up and didn't use proper birth control.

And it doesn't. And not all abortions are of the "careless" type thatyou mention. Rape, incest and mother's life at risk are not the fault of the woman....quit being so dismissive.

Absoloutely. Remmeber, there's a very vindictive strain running through social conservatives. A desire to punish. To make people suffer. They want to make her abide their will. Then they want her to suffer the consequences of their decisions.

You see the same argument in many discussions of social welfare. Where many conservatives argue that suffering will motivate people to work harder. The more you make them suffer, the harder they work. And that the reason they aren't working hard enough is that we aren't hurting them enough.

Its the Gospel of Bizzaro Jesus. Where poverty is a character flaw that needs to be punished accordingly.

Social conservatives are authoritarian lunatics who can care less about a child, as long as it's not a fetus. They will do anything to protect the fetus, they will do anything to blame mothers for any problem the child has, they love the idea of getting a women to give birth against her will, it's what these lunatics crave, it's what they live for, their wet dream.. Yep, the conservative views on welfare are disgusting and barbaric, the sick idea that punishing people will somehow motivate them to work harder. Let's take billy, a 23 year old man raising a child with his 22 year old wife, billy is a manager at mcdonalds (shift) who barely makes enough to afford rent, let alone his kid. His wife works alongside him as a crew member, together, they have virtually no disposable income. They are on food stamps/wic/etc.. Now, the conservative ideology says we need to punish billy, his child, and his wife to motivate them to work harder. Another key conservative point that only spits on the working poor is to blame someone personally for holding a job that essentially forces them to rely on federal assistance, as if the working poor somehow have control of employment opportunities and the education they're provided. Then again, republicans will shout and holler for low wage workers to "GO TO COLLEGE." Ok, great, do you know how much college costs? The time required? These same "social" conservatives want to take away all federal aid from these low income potential college students and tell them to "**** off." Why? Conservatives are truly insane. That's all I can come up with.

Very well said. Conservatives make excuses for their actual non-caring attitude and protect themselves from any "Christian conviction" by fabricating the idea that all poor people are poor because they don't work hard enough, or because they are lazy.

Conservatives have abandoned the teachings of jesus, jesus would never tell a poor man to work harder to get a piece of bread.

2 Thessolonians 3:10
Young's Literal Translation
For even when we were with you, this we did command you, that if any one is not willing to work, neither let him eat.

It would seem that the Apostles of Christ were taught that at the very least, no one got a free ride.

Gesuz, where does that leave all the people that are living off govt paid subsidies?

In the pocket of some Liberal Democrat it would seem...

 

[B. Kidd]

Is mealy-mouth Carson trying to insinuate or plant the illusion that President Obama may be a Muslim? That sounds like a Trump tactic. What other reason would Carson have for even bringing up such a subject at this time?

He was asked about it.

Chuck 'sleepy-eyes' Todd also asked Kasich about it and Kasich dodged the question by replying that it was such a far-fetched hypothetical, he wasn't going to answer it.

 

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Carson thinks a Muslim's beliefs are in conflict with the Constitution,

and yet, Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison is pro-choice; Carson is anti-choice,

and abortion is a constitutionally protected right.

Who is conflict with the Constitution?

Abortion is a constitutionally protected right? Ha ha ha. What a joke!

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The constitution gives a woman the right to control her own body. You insist YOU should be in control of her body.

The court clearly disagrees.

Does it? So if she's suffering from dementia and wants to die, does it give her the right to take a lethal dose of barbiturates?

Apples & oranges. Someone who is mentally incompetent cannot make a rational decision. A pregnant woman who does not want to be is fully capable of deciding that for herself.

Too bad, so sad.

You fail.

 

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Mmm..... If a woman has the "right" to control her own body, why the **** does she have to depend on taxpayers to manage her uncontrolled f--- ups ?

She doesn't. And the HYDE Amendment makes sure of that.

Google it, maybe you'll become educated on the matter.

 

[LittleNipper]

Carson thinks a Muslim's beliefs are in conflict with the Constitution,

and yet, Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison is pro-choice; Carson is anti-choice,

and abortion is a constitutionally protected right.

Who is conflict with the Constitution?

Abortion is a constitutionally protected right? Ha ha ha. What a joke!

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The fact that *you* want sovereignty over a woman's body makes you no less a sharia law wanna be.

I think it would be more likely that conservatives would rather their daughters (and women in general), not be so willing to give their rights away to some "Goodtime Charley". Real sovereignty for a woman begins when a woman says, "NO!"

 

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The state cannot tell Christians how to practice their faith.

And it doesn't.

And their faith tells them that gay marriage, in the religious sense, is a sin.

And the government says they don't have to perform gay marriages.

Hey, I never said a Church has no right to perform a marriage ceremony for two gays, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a mockery and insult to one of the basic tenants of the faith. Look up Sodom and Gomorrah.

That's YOUR belief. Not everyone's.

I'm still waiting for you to tell us what two men filing a joint tax return has to do with religion.

The word marriage is a religious based word. They can file a joint return and have all the rights of married people as far as I'm concerned.

'Separate, but equal' Hmmmm....sounds familiar....

 

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The state cannot tell Christians how to practice their faith.

And it doesn't.

And their faith tells them that gay marriage, in the religious sense, is a sin.

And the government says they don't have to perform gay marriages.

Hey, I never said a Church has no right to perform a marriage ceremony for two gays, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a mockery and insult to one of the basic tenants of the faith. Look up Sodom and Gomorrah.

That's YOUR belief. Not everyone's.

I'm still waiting for you to tell us what two men filing a joint tax return has to do with religion.

The word marriage is a religious based word. They can file a joint return and have all the rights of married people as far as I'm concerned.

A religious 'marriage' isn't legal without a state issued license, for all intents & purposes- it's only ceremonial & not itself legally binding.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ben Carson's blanket condemnation of Muslims is precisely comparable to the Nazi's blanket condemnation of Jews.

 

[B. Kidd]

Carson thinks a Muslim's beliefs are in conflict with the Constitution,

and yet, Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison is pro-choice; Carson is anti-choice,

and abortion is a constitutionally protected right.

Who is conflict with the Constitution?

Abortion is a constitutionally protected right? Ha ha ha. What a joke!

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The fact that *you* want sovereignty over a woman's body makes you no less a sharia law wanna be.

I think it would be more likely that conservatives would rather their daughters (and women in general), not be so willing to give their rights away to some "Goodtime Charley". Real sovereignty for a woman begins when a woman says, "NO!"

I can already hear them yelling "NO!" when descending disenfranchised male Syrian refugees are raping them when they find out the 'American Dream' has been taken.

 

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The constitution gives a woman the right to control her own body.

It's not her body that is being killed.

Oh boy, here we go. A fetus is a fetus, it is reliant on the female body and the female has authority over the fetus, it is her body, there is no way in hell to control uterus's, it's impossible, well, unless you want to force women to give birth.

A fetus has its own DNA, unique from its mother. That is of course, human DNA. A little scientific fact that liberals refuse to acknowledge.

And they accuse republicans of ignoring science.

An egg is not a chicken & an acorn is not an oak tree. That DNA couldn't survive on its own & a woman is more than an incubator.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

2 Thessolonians 3:10
Young's Literal Translation
For even when we were with you, this we did command you, that if any one is not willing to work, neither let him eat.

It would seem that the Apostles of Christ were taught that at the very least, no one got a free ride

Gesuz, where does that leave all the people that are living off govt paid subsidies?

That is a quote from Paul not Jesus... and Paul was speaking to an "end of the world " sect that was trying to live off Church resources ....

there is no doubt what the core principles of Jesus Christ were, he stated them very clearly, again and again and again: feed the hungry, help the poor, heal the sick, give your money away. Jesus was an upstart progressive, bordering on a full blown socialist, and as such, a bigger and bigger threat to the existing wealth centers of his ancient world as his influence grew.


In the previous chapter of his epistle, Paul warned about those who were teaching that the second coming was imminent (2 Thes. 2:2), and this had apparently misled some in Thessalonica into ceasing from earning a living, since they expected the Lord to return at any moment. Paul made it quite clear in chapter 2 that such teaching was in error, and he details events that must first take place before Christ could return (2 Thes. 2:3-12). This is why Paul did not live off the resources of the church in Thessalonica, because he was setting an example, to reinforce his teaching that the second coming was not near (v. 9 above).


Read more:2 Thessalonians 3 He who will not work will not eat

 

[playtime]

Carson thinks a Muslim's beliefs are in conflict with the Constitution,

and yet, Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison is pro-choice; Carson is anti-choice,

and abortion is a constitutionally protected right.

Who is conflict with the Constitution?

Abortion is a constitutionally protected right? Ha ha ha. What a joke!

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The fact that *you* want sovereignty over a woman's body makes you no less a sharia law wanna be.

I think it would be more likely that conservatives would rather their daughters (and women in general), not be so willing to give their rights away to some "Goodtime Charley". Real sovereignty for a woman begins when a woman says, "NO!"

A woman will say no when she WANTS to say no.

Why didn't you include men in that little diatribe hmmmm?

Double standard much?

YEP.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Other than in the first line where you admit your error, what the hell does the rest of your rant have to do with the totality of my post to you? Now will you respond to the rest of my original reply or continue to pretend it that what you wrote in the first line was merely a typo?

BTW, "Sharia law" is redundant. Sharia is Islamic law, so it's like saying Islamic law law!

Exactly, Shariah is Islamic law, which is barbaric and intolerant and has been PROVEN to be incompatible with the constitution, freedom Western way of life. Which is why a "devout Muslim" cannot be president, ever. And that's what Carson said.

My initial post to you had nothing to do with your deflection. You don't want to reply to this:

You claim;
""Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S."
Actually, I would say it's been just a tad longer than that. Is that from a secular perspective or a canonical POV you're speaking from? The answer is, obviously, the latter of the two just as with Islamic law, Sharia! The canonical law of a Christian, a Jew and a Muslim are the same in that respect and are held fast by the fundamentalists of those faiths, with some being "more faithful" than others!

You seem afraid, very afraid, of the possibility of Sharia & its Courts here in the US. We may share a common concern, but I'm not as one sided as you seem to be, but lets see! How about Jewish Law Courts and Rabbinical Courts that are already existing here in the US? Do you not fear those religious courts? I don't believe those civil law courts established by fundamentalist Jewry and Mosaic law are in harmony with the establishment clause either, but they exist. So are you going to be just as strident against those EXIXTING JEWISH LAW & COURTS (BETH DIN) AS YOU ARE AGAINST THE NON-EXISTENT ISLAMIC LAW & COURTS (SHARIA) AND PERHAPS SHOW ALL A HYPOCRITICAL, BIGOTED SIDE?"

For one's edification:
http://www.nylslawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2012/11/NYLS_Law_Review_Volume-57-2.Broyde.pdf
http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1890&context=ulj
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So will you continue to deflect from the points made above for a third time or address them?

Deflect what, Shariah law is burning down the middle east, and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Again, not all religions are equal:

Dance away you Phony ****! You have proven yourself to be a hypocritical bigot by refusing to respond to the points made thrice! You just PARROT with no critical thinking of your own!

Calm and take take your meds you dickless, spineless terrorist worshiper.

I proved my point you just refused to see it.

You didn't prove jack shit! Hell, you never even addressed what I wrote because it kinked up your bullshit dodge and exposed your damned hypocrisy and bigotry. And you're running away from it like a frightened little girl! I now have your full measure, and will never again give you the benefit of the doubt!

 

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Abortion is a constitutionally protected right? Ha ha ha. What a joke!

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The fact that *you* want sovereignty over a woman's body makes you no less a sharia law wanna be.

I think it would be more likely that conservatives would rather their daughters (and women in general), not be so willing to give their rights away to some "Goodtime Charley". Real sovereignty for a woman begins when a woman says, "NO!"

I can already hear them yelling "NO!" when descending disenfranchised male Syrian refugees are raping them when they find out the 'American Dream' has been taken.

I suppose THEN it would be fine for a woman to exercise her right to choose, because that way she doesn't bring another dirty Muzzie into the world 'eh?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

So Republicans have said a Muslim can't be president or build a clock but "the biggest discrimination going on is against" Christians? WTF ?

 

[B. Kidd]

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The fact that *you* want sovereignty over a woman's body makes you no less a sharia law wanna be.

I think it would be more likely that conservatives would rather their daughters (and women in general), not be so willing to give their rights away to some "Goodtime Charley". Real sovereignty for a woman begins when a woman says, "NO!"

I can already hear them yelling "NO!" when descending disenfranchised male Syrian refugees are raping them when they find out the 'American Dream' has been taken.

I suppose THEN it would be fine for a woman to exercise her right to choose, because that way she doesn't bring another dirty Muzzie into the world 'eh?

If she's a liberal and voted for liberal policies, she should raise it, and damn well love it!