Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[Mac1958]

Yes, it just depends on your target. I'm bigoted against nose pick and flickers...but I don't think they need additional security screening as a result.


Bigots used to think gays were a security risk too.

How do they allow those Moooooslims to serve?

So those are your only targets of bigotry.

Wow, rare. Got it.
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No...I don't like pick and stickers either. Still don't think they should get additional security scrutiny just because I'm bigoted against them.

You still haven't explained why a person's religion should preclude them for a security clearance or why they should get additional screening as a result.

Screws me, ask Carson.

Plus, I didn't say what you're pretending I said. Not even close. Not within a mile.

This whole thread sure has been chock full 'o dishonest posts. Straw Man - O - Rama.

I'm used to that here, but it does become tedious.
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Carson didn't bring up security concerns, you did.

No, I made a guess about his reasoning.
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And by the way, perhaps you can show me I said, and I quote from you, that "a person's religion should preclude them for a security clearance or why they should get additional screening as a result."

Or you can admit that you dishonestly and blatantly misrepresented my words, either one.
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[Roudy]

Carson has a right to his opinion, which is line with what most Americans believe.

That's why Obama had to swear up and down a hundred times that he wasn't a Muslim. And based on his actions during his presidency, the jury is still out on whether he lied about that one as he did many things in 08, like when he said he was against gay marriage.

Actually he didn't "have to" do that at all. It's nobody's business. Religion is a private matter. Nor, to state the obvious for the oblivious, is there a religion qualification for the POTUS position -- which should end the matter right there all by itself.

Huh?! The reporter / interviewer asked Carson for his opinion, and he gave it. Duh. And now the leftist media is once again making a whole lot of something out of nothing, just to bury Hillary Clinton's criminal activities for a while and give her cover.

 

[Roudy]

What this country really needs is a trransgendered, homosexual, latin, islamic, weight challenged, bankrupt, midget with a limp for president...

All the inclusive qualities every great leader possesses ! Lmfao

But hey, the "Constitution" says it's allowed. Ha ha ha.

 

[playtime]

With what is happening in the world today and what has become exposed about Islam, what makes sense is not having a person of Muslim faith running the Oval Office, the highest position in the world. And that's what Ben Carson said. Maybe you would like to see a president spreading Shariah law from the Oval Office, but I will wager that over 90% of Americans agree with Ben Carson, and do not want to see a Muslim as president.

Yeah, unfortunately for your wet dream, here in the real world a POTUS cannot "spread Sharia law", "spread Biblical law", "spread Flying Spaghetti Monster law" or anything else. We've got what we call "branches" of government that operate in what we call "checks and balances". Maybe you were out sick that day in fourth grade.

Obama sure did!

Another rw conspiracy..

It's a conspiracy when Obama ignores checks and balances?

It's reality... you think if Obama had campaigned on amnesty, government healthcare, open borders, antisemitism and giving Iran billions to build nukes he would have won?

Carter AND Reagan AND George W. all gave amnesty.

Obama ran on the ACA & that's one reason he got elected. BTW, 'Obamacare' is not Government healthcare, so try to learn the difference b4 you spew that falsehood again.

Obama NEVER was in favor of 'open borders', so that's a lie.

Not being intimidated by & told how to govern THIS country, & not kissing Israel's ass does not equate to anti-Semitism & the Iranian deal was part of a multinational effort which basically meant Iran would have a 10 year pause button instead of only months & if the deal didn't go thru, then we would have become effectively defunct in dealing with them at all. But you go ahead with your silly talking point pablum that's being spoonfed to you.

 

[skye]

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Most Muslim countries are unfriendly, to put it mildly with the US, Iran even chants death to America on a daily basis.

We occupy their countries and kill hundreds of thousands of their people and somehow they hold it against us...

Clearly you have never bothered to read the history of Islam.

Since it's founding, it has been on a course of world domination, with such a history wars are inevitable.

 

[Roudy]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

There have been more attacks by rightwing terrorists with no connection to Islam on Obama's watch than there have been Muslim attacks.

Here we go. Equivocating Islamists with the behavior of the Christian world today.

Proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

[Roudy]

The question that should have been asked Carson -

What makes a Muslim unqualified to be President?

For one thing, as I explained and even gave an example of is their desire to govern by Sharia Law. Again, a judge out west had to step in and order a Sharia Law court cease and desist. Sharia law is not the law of the land here and never should be. If you don't know why that is do some research! Talk about a 'War on Women'! I am sure you would just love to have our nation be able to kill girls simply because they went to a movie with a boy, un-covered, or if they were reaped. Yeah, I said kill the GIRL for being raped!

Liberals make me laugh. They speak of a "war on women" and "intolerance towards gays" yet the very people they kiss up to are busy treating women like animals and hanging gays in public.

 

[Roudy]

What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
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For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
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Why would it be? Keith Ellison is a Muslim congressman. Should he be denied access to classified information? Should he be removed from office for security reasons?

As with anything else, it would depend upon the situation and the person.

Life is complicated.

I don't know enough about Ellison to answer your questions.
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He's militantly anti American. What a surprise!

GOP Candidate: Rep. Keith Ellison Is "Militantly Anti-America"
—By Tim Murphy

| Wed Jul. 25, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

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Since being sworn in—on Thomas Jefferson's Koran, no less—as the country's first Muslim congressman five years ago, Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison has been a magnet for conservative criticism. Florida Rep. Allen West told an interviewer in 2011 that Ellison, because his faith undermines America's Judeo-Christian foundation, represents "the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established." Just last week, his Minnesota colleague Michele Bachmann accused Ellison of supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.

Now, the Republican nominee to take Ellison on in November has gotten in on the action. On Tuesday, Chris Fields, a Marine Corps veteran with no prior political experience, sent out a fundraising appeal asking for help defeating his "militantly anti-America" opponent":

While I was fighting on a battlefield in Iraq, my opponent was doing everything he could to cut funding for the war and the soldiers fighting it.

Keith Ellison is militantly anti-America. He attacked the Pledge of Allegiance, voted countless times to throw our troops serving in harm's way to the wolves and teamed up with Barney Frank to destroy the banking industry. Not surprisingly, he's the proud co-chairman of the radical Congressional Progressive Caucus.

(Emphasis his). Fields doesn't stand a chance against Ellison; Democrats hold a 22-point edge in the distict and Cook Political Report rates the seat a "solid D." But he's still the representative of the state GOP in this race, and was endorsed by the party convention.

On the other hand, it could have been worse. Fields won his party's nomination by beating Lynne Torgerson, who was running to expose Ellison's plot to spread Islamic Shariah law. Torgerson blamed Fields' victory on a plot by Ron Paul activists to take over the state, citing as evidence my 2011 magazine piece on the New Hampshire Free State Project. As Shep Smith said, politics is weird.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Clearly you have never bothered to read the history of Islam.

Since it's founding, it has been on a course of world domination, with such a history wars are inevitable.

Islam never did anything to me


Obama White House Slams Ben Carson’s Bigotry Towards Muslims

 

[skye]

Clearly you have never bothered to read the history of Islam.

Since it's founding, it has been on a course of world domination, with such a history wars are inevitable.

Islam never did anything to me


Obama White House Slams Ben Carson’s Bigotry Towards Muslims

Well it should have.




Like I give a fig of what your Obama White house says.

Meh.

 

[Roudy]

Leftwingers are the ones who don't have a problem with Sharia. They keep telling us that Islam should be treated with respect.

The Right has its own ideas for a Sharia of their own .. Christian Sharia.

Over 200 years of US history we see no sign of a Christian Sharia.

The left tries to constantly fraudulently equivocate Islam and Islamic behavior with Christianity. That pig won't fly.

Plenty of signs.. Do you remember how long gay marriage was banned for? How one party wants to control women's bodies? Keep gays out of the military? Women?

Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S. And before that for 5000 years. Are you seriously complaining THAT to the barbarism in Shariah law? Ho ho ho what a ******* moron.

You claim;
"Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S."
Actually, I would say it's been just a tad longer than that. Is that from a secular perspective or a canonical POV you're speaking from? The answer is, obviously, the latter of the two just as with Islamic law, Sharia! The canonical law of a Christian, a Jew and a Muslim are the same in that respect and are held fast by the fundamentalists of those faiths, with some being "more faithful" than others!

You seem afraid, very afraid, of the possibility of Sharia & its Courts here in the US. We may share a common concern, but I'm not as one sided as you seem to be, but lets see! How about Jewish Law Courts and Rabbinical Courts that are already existing here in the US? Do you not fear those religious courts? I don't believe those civil law courts established by fundamentalist Jewry and Mosaic law are in harmony with the establishment clause either, but they exist. So are you going to be just as strident against those EXIXTING JEWISH LAW & COURTS (BETH DIN) AS YOU ARE AGAINST THE NON-EXISTENT ISLAMIC LAW & COURTS (SHARIA) AND PERHAPS SHOW ALL A HYPOCRITICAL, BIGOTED SIDE?

For one's edification:
http://www.nylslawreview.com/wp-con...012/11/NYLS_Law_Review_Volume-57-2.Broyde.pdf
http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1890&context=ulj

I meant "gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last TWO HUNDRED YEARS" and rightly so. When you see a priest or rabbi perform a religious marriage ceremony for two men or women, IT IS AN ABOMINATION and an insult to all three faiths, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. Let them have a different union and call it something else and give them the same exact rights as married couples. But to mock a faith and force it to change it's basic teachings, to me reeks of fascism, which is what radical leftists are really good at.

Shariah law is a barbaric and neanderthal. Take a look at all the areas ISIS has captured, or the Taliban are ruling, that is Shariah law.

 

[playtime]

How many Christian leaders run Muslim countries?

This is a secular nation, not a 'Christian' one, so whatever point you were trying to make just fell flat.

 

[Roudy]

Clearly you have never bothered to read the history of Islam.

Since it's founding, it has been on a course of world domination, with such a history wars are inevitable.

Islam never did anything to me


Obama White House Slams Ben Carson’s Bigotry Towards Muslims

right. Ask the victims of 9-11, Boston Bombers, Fort Hood, Beslan massacre, and many other victims of Islamic savagery throughout the world. Not a day goes by where Islam doesn't spill innocent blood.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

CNN host schools Carson campaign on Muslim presidents: ‘Let me read to you Article 6 of the Constitution’

 

[Syriusly]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

You must live in fear everyday, you intolerant bigot.

We all have to live in fear that liberals or socialists will get elected.

What a sad life it is to live one like yours to be in fear all of the time, in fear of so many, many Americans.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Not a day goes by where Islam doesn't spill innocent blood.

Here is a small sample of our handywork in the world
VIETNAM
(NAPALM)

LAOS
(AGENT ORANGE)

CAMBODIA
(CLUSTER BOMB)

FALLUJAH, IRAQ
(DEPLETED URANIUM)

AFGHANISTAN
(LANDMINE)

 

[Roudy]

Name a President that wasn't a Christian.

I can't..... and that isn't my point. Many here are adamant that Christians, especially Evangelicals should not be allowed near government office... I'm not saying I've ever heard you express that demented view. You actually atre one of the more reasonable lefties here...

BTW.. some of the founders were actually Diests.

There's a difference between saying you're not going to vote for an Evangelical and saying Evangelicals should not be allowed to have office. I think you'd have a hard time finding many who support the latter.

Really? Cause you guys are too stupid to figure out the difference when Carson says he won't vote for a Muslim.

It's his bigotry against the Muslim religion that is the issue here. It's comparable to anti-Semitism. Ironically, it's comparable to racism wherein someone says they wouldn't vote for a black person for President.

Hard to imagine a candidate for President in 21st century America could make such a statement based on religion

You can't make this stuff up

Hard to imagine a politically incorrect person saying what most Americans actually believe and feel, eh?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I am not frightened by Muslims or by Islam ....I certainly do not hate them......

 

[Roudy]

Not a day goes by where Islam doesn't spill innocent blood.

Here is a small sample of our handywork in the world
VIETNAM
(NAPALM)

LAOS
(AGENT ORANGE)

CAMBODIA
(CLUSTER BOMB)

FALLUJAH, IRAQ
(DEPLETED URANIUM)

AFGHANISTAN
(LANDMINE)

Oh so we're just going to show pictures of victims of war for the past 5000 years, and then compare that to the religious war Muslims are waging upon modern civilization and Western freedoms and democracies.

 

[rightwinger]

How many Christian leaders run Muslim countries?

Never realized we are a Christian country

Have you read our constitution?

U.S. rule of law founded on Judeo-Christian principles.

Name some