Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[Seawytch]

Again I would ask you, do you know ANY Muslims? I do and not a one of them has a problem with me being gay or a woman. None of them want me covered up or put to death. I have been treated MUCH better by American Muslims than I have by American Evangelical Christians.

No, Islam Doesn't Say Kill Gays

If a devout Muslim ran for President and was against women's rights and abortion and gay rights because of his religion, you wouldn't vote for them. You wouldn't trust what they would do in office.

Yeah, me too.

I'd guess the main reason Carson wouldn't vote for a devout Muslim is more national security-oriented and culture-oriented because of the candidate's religion, and he wouldn't trust what they would do in office, either.

That doesn't make you or me or Carson a bigot, it just means we'd have our reasons for not voting for that person.
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What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
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For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Yes, I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
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And I can't believe that you think simply being Muslim IS a national security concern. That goes WAY beyond offensive to plain old bigoted.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

They used to say negroes should be disqualified for president.......where does that leave Carson?

They of course being Democrats... until the Republicans brought them kicking and screaming into the twentieth century with the civil rights act.

A Democrat signed the civil rights act into law

Soggy believes a business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason,

so he fundamentally opposes the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

And of course you can quote me on that.. right?

 

[Mac1958]

If a devout Muslim ran for President and was against women's rights and abortion and gay rights because of his religion, you wouldn't vote for them. You wouldn't trust what they would do in office.

Yeah, me too.

I'd guess the main reason Carson wouldn't vote for a devout Muslim is more national security-oriented and culture-oriented because of the candidate's religion, and he wouldn't trust what they would do in office, either.

That doesn't make you or me or Carson a bigot, it just means we'd have our reasons for not voting for that person.
.

What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
.

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Yes, I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
.

And I can't believe that you think simply being Muslim IS a national security concern. That goes WAY beyond offensive to plain old bigoted.

Then so be it.

Everyone is bigoted in some way.

Everyone.
.

 

[Seawytch]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

There have been more attacks by rightwing terrorists with no connection to Islam on Obama's watch than there have been Muslim attacks.

You're nutz.... seriously nutz.

It depends on whether you're talking about in the US or not.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If a devout Muslim ran for President and was against women's rights and abortion and gay rights because of his religion, you wouldn't vote for them. You wouldn't trust what they would do in office.

Yeah, me too.

I'd guess the main reason Carson wouldn't vote for a devout Muslim is more national security-oriented and culture-oriented because of the candidate's religion, and he wouldn't trust what they would do in office, either.

That doesn't make you or me or Carson a bigot, it just means we'd have our reasons for not voting for that person.
.

What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
.

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Yes, I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
.

And I can't believe that you think simply being Muslim IS a national security concern. That goes WAY beyond offensive to plain old bigoted.

they are as much a national security concern as you libtards are.....which is becomiing greater all the time...

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

There have been more attacks by rightwing terrorists with no connection to Islam on Obama's watch than there have been Muslim attacks.

You're nutz.... seriously nutz.

It depends on whether you're talking about in the US or not.

Agreed.... then RW'r should learn to articulate himself a bit better.. he's known for saying "xxx" then when his argument is shredded like so much rotten cabbage, it magically becomes "yyy". And it is also important to note that many of the folks listed as "right wing extremists" were just plain old nuts... no indication whatsoever they were Republicans. RW'r is full-of-shit, plain and simple.

 

[Seawytch]

What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
.

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Yes, I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
.

And I can't believe that you think simply being Muslim IS a national security concern. That goes WAY beyond offensive to plain old bigoted.

Then so be it.

Everyone is bigoted in some way.

Everyone.
.

Yes, it just depends on your target. I'm bigoted against nose pick and flickers...but I don't think they need additional security screening as a result.


Bigots used to think gays were a security risk too.

How do they allow those Moooooslims to serve?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
.

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Yes, I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
.

And I can't believe that you think simply being Muslim IS a national security concern. That goes WAY beyond offensive to plain old bigoted.

Then so be it.

Everyone is bigoted in some way.

Everyone.
.

Yep... just a matter of scope and scale.

 

[Seawytch]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

There have been more attacks by rightwing terrorists with no connection to Islam on Obama's watch than there have been Muslim attacks.

You're nutz.... seriously nutz.

It depends on whether you're talking about in the US or not.

Agreed.... then RW'r should learn to articulate himself a bit better.. he's known for saying "xxx" then when his argument is shredded like so much rotten cabbage, it magically becomes "yyy". And it is also important to note that many of the folks listed as "right wing extremists" were just plain old nuts... no indication whatsoever they were Republicans. RW'r is full-of-shit, plain and simple.

What he said is true...if you're speaking of the United States.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

There have been more attacks by rightwing terrorists with no connection to Islam on Obama's watch than there have been Muslim attacks.

You're nutz.... seriously nutz.

It depends on whether you're talking about in the US or not.

Agreed.... then RW'r should learn to articulate himself a bit better.. he's known for saying "xxx" then when his argument is shredded like so much rotten cabbage, it magically becomes "yyy". And it is also important to note that many of the folks listed as "right wing extremists" were just plain old nuts... no indication whatsoever they were Republicans. RW'r is full-of-shit, plain and simple.

What he said is true...if you're speaking of the United States.

Nah, not really.... unless you can demonstrate they were all conservatives? Of course you can't. .and anyway, that isn't what he said.

 

[rightwinger]

I can't..... and that isn't my point. Many here are adamant that Christians, especially Evangelicals should not be allowed near government office... I'm not saying I've ever heard you express that demented view. You actually atre one of the more reasonable lefties here...

BTW.. some of the founders were actually Diests.

There's a difference between saying you're not going to vote for an Evangelical and saying Evangelicals should not be allowed to have office. I think you'd have a hard time finding many who support the latter.

Really? Cause you guys are too stupid to figure out the difference when Carson says he won't vote for a Muslim.

It's his bigotry against the Muslim religion that is the issue here. It's comparable to anti-Semitism. Ironically, it's comparable to racism wherein someone says they wouldn't vote for a black person for President.

Hard to imagine a candidate for President in 21st century America could make such a statement based on religion

You can't make this stuff up

it's not hard to imagine how stupid you libtards are......sharia law is anti-constitutional....so if a muslim took office there would be hell to pay.......oh wait....

That muslim would have to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States...just like a Christian does

Christian Presidents are routinely called to make decisions that are contrary to their religion.....A muslim President would do the same

 

[rightwinger]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

There have been more attacks by rightwing terrorists with no connection to Islam on Obama's watch than there have been Muslim attacks.

You're nutz.... seriously nutz.

It depends on whether you're talking about in the US or not.

Agreed.... then RW'r should learn to articulate himself a bit better.. he's known for saying "xxx" then when his argument is shredded like so much rotten cabbage, it magically becomes "yyy". And it is also important to note that many of the folks listed as "right wing extremists" were just plain old nuts... no indication whatsoever they were Republicans. RW'r is full-of-shit, plain and simple.

Interesting...

Do you have ONE example where I did that?

I didn't think so

 

[ScreamingEagle]

There's a difference between saying you're not going to vote for an Evangelical and saying Evangelicals should not be allowed to have office. I think you'd have a hard time finding many who support the latter.

Really? Cause you guys are too stupid to figure out the difference when Carson says he won't vote for a Muslim.

It's his bigotry against the Muslim religion that is the issue here. It's comparable to anti-Semitism. Ironically, it's comparable to racism wherein someone says they wouldn't vote for a black person for President.

Hard to imagine a candidate for President in 21st century America could make such a statement based on religion

You can't make this stuff up

it's not hard to imagine how stupid you libtards are......sharia law is anti-constitutional....so if a muslim took office there would be hell to pay.......oh wait....

That muslim would have to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States...just like a Christian does

Christian Presidents are routinely called to make decisions that are contrary to their religion.....A muslim President would do the same

that muslim would swear on the koran......just like rep keith ellison (d-mn) did....

how do you know for sure that he would....?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Muslims should be able to become president of whatever 11th century, backwards, uncivilised, middle eastern shithole which they like........

 

[Mac1958]

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
.

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Yes, I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
.

And I can't believe that you think simply being Muslim IS a national security concern. That goes WAY beyond offensive to plain old bigoted.

Then so be it.

Everyone is bigoted in some way.

Everyone.
.

Yes, it just depends on your target. I'm bigoted against nose pick and flickers...but I don't think they need additional security screening as a result.


Bigots used to think gays were a security risk too.

How do they allow those Moooooslims to serve?

So those are your only people against whom you are bigoted.

Nose pickers and flickers.

Wow, rare. Got it.
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[rightwinger]

Really? Cause you guys are too stupid to figure out the difference when Carson says he won't vote for a Muslim.

It's his bigotry against the Muslim religion that is the issue here. It's comparable to anti-Semitism. Ironically, it's comparable to racism wherein someone says they wouldn't vote for a black person for President.

Hard to imagine a candidate for President in 21st century America could make such a statement based on religion

You can't make this stuff up

it's not hard to imagine how stupid you libtards are......sharia law is anti-constitutional....so if a muslim took office there would be hell to pay.......oh wait....

That muslim would have to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States...just like a Christian does

Christian Presidents are routinely called to make decisions that are contrary to their religion.....A muslim President would do the same

that muslim would swear on the koran......just like rep keith ellison (d-mn) did....

how do you know for sure that he would....?

Why would you trust a Muslim who swore on a bible?
It would have no meaning

Christians have to make decisions contrary to their religious beliefs all the time

 

[ScreamingEagle]

It's his bigotry against the Muslim religion that is the issue here. It's comparable to anti-Semitism. Ironically, it's comparable to racism wherein someone says they wouldn't vote for a black person for President.

Hard to imagine a candidate for President in 21st century America could make such a statement based on religion

You can't make this stuff up

it's not hard to imagine how stupid you libtards are......sharia law is anti-constitutional....so if a muslim took office there would be hell to pay.......oh wait....

That muslim would have to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States...just like a Christian does

Christian Presidents are routinely called to make decisions that are contrary to their religion.....A muslim President would do the same

that muslim would swear on the koran......just like rep keith ellison (d-mn) did....

how do you know for sure that he would....?

Why would you trust a Muslim who swore on a bible?
It would have no meaning

Christians have to make decisions contrary to their religious beliefs all the time

i would trust a muslim who swore on the Bible more than on the Koran.....because this country was founded on Christian principles rather than Islamic ones....

a president must uphold the law even if it is against his religion.....but that does not mean a muslim president wouldn't push changing the laws.....putting sharia into the law.....like blasphemy laws for instance.....

Obama has held secret meetings with Islamic leaders.....what was that all about....? Obama has supported the Muslim Brottherhood.....what is that all about....? Obama mocks Christianity.....even though he claims he is a Christian.....what is that all about....?

 

[Lakhota]

Is mealy-mouth Carson trying to insinuate or plant the illusion that President Obama may be a Muslim? That sounds like a Trump tactic. What other reason would Carson have for even bringing up such a subject at this time?

 

[rightwinger]

Carsons bigotry should disqualify him from the Presidency

 

[Lakhota]

Carsons bigotry should disqualify him from the Presidency

I agree! Carson may be the most mealy-mouthed clown to ever run for the presidency.