Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[Davros]

Interesting take from the "no Christians need apply" crowd...

******* loons.

Name a President that wasn't a Christian.

I can't..... and that isn't my point. Many here are adamant that Christians, especially Evangelicals should not be allowed near government office... I'm not saying I've ever heard you express that demented view. You actually are one of the more reasonable lefties here...

BTW.. some of the founders were actually Diests.

There's a difference between saying you're not going to vote for an Evangelical and saying Evangelicals should not be allowed to have office. I think you'd have a hard time finding many who support the latter.

Ha ha ha... I doubt it... I think there are plenty anti-Christian loons here.

Well, this forum has a much higher percentage of various kinds of crazy than does the general public. Face it, fringe elements love message boards. Moderates don't.

 

[easyt65]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

 

[David_42]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

Want me to list off Christian terrorist attacks?

 

[boilermaker55]

And you have no idea of the true concept this country was founded on. So the Constitution means nothing to you at all.
Welcome to the world of the extremely bigoted concept of those who feel their rights supersede that of the Constitution.

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

 

[NYcarbineer]

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Please define an 'American Muslim'.

Do you mean American citizen born here who happens to be a Muslim...like Fort Hood terrorist Major Nidal Hasan from Arlington County, Va?

Or are you talking about naturalized Muslim Americans, like Dzhokhar Anzorovich "Jahar" Tsarnaev, a Kyrgyzstani-America, perpetrator of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Or are you talking about one like Obama who takes the country to war on his own without authorization from Congress to help Al Qaeida take over Libya?


Liberals are so perplexing yet amusing. Disagree with an Obama policy and you are a 'Racist'. Show any concern for national security after repeated attacks under Obama by Muslims on US soil and after ISIS declares it intends to infiltrate refugee ranks with its fighters to come here and wage terrorism on the US on US soil and they label you an 'Islamaphobe'.

There have been more attacks by rightwing terrorists with no connection to Islam on Obama's watch than there have been Muslim attacks.

 

[Mac1958]

Not difficult to imagine what a devout Muslim would think about gays and women.
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Again I would ask you, do you know ANY Muslims? I do and not a one of them has a problem with me being gay or a woman. None of them want me covered up or put to death. I have been treated MUCH better by American Muslims than I have by American Evangelical Christians.

No, Islam Doesn't Say Kill Gays

If a devout Muslim ran for President and was against women's rights and abortion and gay rights because of his religion, you wouldn't vote for them. You wouldn't trust what they would do in office.

Yeah, me too.

I'd guess the main reason Carson wouldn't vote for a devout Muslim is more national security-oriented and culture-oriented because of the candidate's religion, and he wouldn't trust what they would do in office, either.

That doesn't make you or me or Carson a bigot, it just means we'd have our reasons for not voting for that person.
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What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
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For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

Yes, I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
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[NYcarbineer]

The question that should have been asked Carson -

What makes a Muslim unqualified to be President?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Again I would ask you, do you know ANY Muslims? I do and not a one of them has a problem with me being gay or a woman. None of them want me covered up or put to death. I have been treated MUCH better by American Muslims than I have by American Evangelical Christians.

No, Islam Doesn't Say Kill Gays

If a devout Muslim ran for President and was against women's rights and abortion and gay rights because of his religion, you wouldn't vote for them. You wouldn't trust what they would do in office.

Yeah, me too.

I'd guess the main reason Carson wouldn't vote for a devout Muslim is more national security-oriented and culture-oriented because of the candidate's religion, and he wouldn't trust what they would do in office, either.

That doesn't make you or me or Carson a bigot, it just means we'd have our reasons for not voting for that person.
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What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
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For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
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Why would it be? Keith Ellison is a Muslim congressman. Should he be denied access to classified information? Should he be removed from office for security reasons?

 

[rightwinger]

They used to say negroes should be disqualified for president.......where does that leave Carson?

 

[easyt65]

The question that should have been asked Carson -

What makes a Muslim unqualified to be President?

For one thing, as I explained and even gave an example of is their desire to govern by Sharia Law. Again, a judge out west had to step in and order a Sharia Law court cease and desist. Sharia law is not the law of the land here and never should be. If you don't know why that is do some research! Talk about a 'War on Women'! I am sure you would just love to have our nation be able to kill girls simply because they went to a movie with a boy, un-covered, or if they were reaped. Yeah, I said kill the GIRL for being raped!

 

[Mac1958]

If a devout Muslim ran for President and was against women's rights and abortion and gay rights because of his religion, you wouldn't vote for them. You wouldn't trust what they would do in office.

Yeah, me too.

I'd guess the main reason Carson wouldn't vote for a devout Muslim is more national security-oriented and culture-oriented because of the candidate's religion, and he wouldn't trust what they would do in office, either.

That doesn't make you or me or Carson a bigot, it just means we'd have our reasons for not voting for that person.
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What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
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For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
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Why would it be? Keith Ellison is a Muslim congressman. Should he be denied access to classified information? Should he be removed from office for security reasons?

As with anything else, it would depend upon the situation and the person.

Life is complicated.

I don't know enough about Ellison to answer your questions.
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[rightwinger]

The question that should have been asked Carson -

What makes a Muslim unqualified to be President?

For one thing, as I explained and even gave an example of is their desire to govern by Sharia Law. Again, a judge out west had to step in and order a Sharia Law court cease and desist. Sharia law is not the law of the land here and never should be. If you don't know why that is do some research! Talk about a 'War on Women'! I am sure you would just love to have our nation be able to kill girls simply because they went to a movie with a boy, un-covered, or if they were reaped. Yeah, I said kill the GIRL for being raped!

The President swears an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States

 

[Mac1958]

The PC Police always get so pissy when I point out their behaviors, and especially when I refer to Islam as "the PC-protected religion".

And then a thread like this comes along.


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[NYcarbineer]

What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
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For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
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Why would it be? Keith Ellison is a Muslim congressman. Should he be denied access to classified information? Should he be removed from office for security reasons?

As with anything else, it would depend upon the situation and the person.

Life is complicated.

I don't know enough about Ellison to answer your questions.
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Then why are you making generalizations about the security concerns of Muslims in office?

 

[easyt65]

Why would it be? Keith Ellison is a Muslim congressman. Should he be denied access to classified information? Should he be removed from office for security reasons?

With his pen and his phone Obama took the country to war on his own, without Congressional approval to do so to help al qaeida take over Libya. He also just completely by-passed Congress, violating the Constitution to do so, to give Iran a pathway to getting nukes. Don't think I want a full blown Muslim having that kind of power. Of course, I would like to think Americans would not let that happen.... Right....

It was predicted that America would never be defeated but would instead collapse from within, like every other 'great' 'empire'. Rome is burning folks, and the fires have been set from within...

 

[NYcarbineer]

The PC Police always get so pissy when I point out their behaviors, and especially when I refer to Islam as "the PC-protected religion".

And then a thread like this comes along.


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It's not PC protected. You lie.

 

[Mac1958]

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
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For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
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Why would it be? Keith Ellison is a Muslim congressman. Should he be denied access to classified information? Should he be removed from office for security reasons?

As with anything else, it would depend upon the situation and the person.

Life is complicated.

I don't know enough about Ellison to answer your questions.
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Then why are you making generalizations about the security concerns of Muslims in office?

I'm making presumptions about why Carson said what he said.

Do you understand that?
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[boilermaker55]

Sure people that are conservative would deny him that right. First off he is a progressive and secondly, or perhaps we can interchange the order, he is a Muslim.
They would in a heart beat

If a devout Muslim ran for President and was against women's rights and abortion and gay rights because of his religion, you wouldn't vote for them. You wouldn't trust what they would do in office.

Yeah, me too.

I'd guess the main reason Carson wouldn't vote for a devout Muslim is more national security-oriented and culture-oriented because of the candidate's religion, and he wouldn't trust what they would do in office, either.

That doesn't make you or me or Carson a bigot, it just means we'd have our reasons for not voting for that person.
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What is the national security concern of an American born Muslim running for President?

So you really can't think of any reason why there might be concern.

Gosh, me neither.
.

For an American Muslim? I can't think of why that would be a security concern...but of course I'm not an Islamaphobe.

I absolutely believe that you can't think of why it would be a security concern.
.

Why would it be? Keith Ellison is a Muslim congressman. Should he be denied access to classified information? Should he be removed from office for security reasons?

 

[Mac1958]

The PC Police always get so pissy when I point out their behaviors, and especially when I refer to Islam as "the PC-protected religion". And then a thread like this comes along.

It's not PC protected. You lie.

See?


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[easyt65]

The President swears an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States

ROFLOL! Yup, that lasted about 24 - 48 hours with Obama. Within the 1st week he openly declared he did not 'like' or believe in the Defense of Marriage Act and thus would not enforce it (a law passed by Congress). Didn't take him long to betray his oath of office at all...