Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

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The fact that a candidate for POTUS thinks that religion should be a factor whether someone is ALLOWED to run despite what out CONSTITUTION says is disturbing to say the least.

Is that what he said?
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Oh bloody hell- he might as well have said it. I said that's what he THINKS. Just like he THINKS women can't make rational 'educated' decisions about their own bodies...just like he THINKS prison life turns people gay.... just like he THINKS Obamacare is as bad as slavery was... just like he THINKS that the US has turned into Nazi Germany.

So why is it out of the realm that he actually believes that Muslims aren't fit for position of POTUS ?

That's not what he said.

He said he would not support a Muslim for President, because he doesn't feel that Islam is consistent with the Constitution.

It's impossible to discuss this if you keep misrepresenting what he actually said.
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Then he should have said ' I personally believe....' but he didn't. He went right up to the edge of that cliff but didn't jump off. Christianity, & Judaism isn't consistent with a secular Constitution either. Do you think the religion of the current POTUS should have ever been raised over the past 7 years?

If he indeed went up to the edge of the cliff, the Democrats tried to push him off. And they're doing so in a very dishonest way, constantly and voluntarily misrepresenting what he said. As we see on this thread.

And to answer your question, I think this "Obama is a Muslim" stuff is ridiculous.

I'm consistent.
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I'm not a Democrat.

 

[Roudy]

He's right, as we can see, Islam is incompatible with freedom and democracy.

I agree with you that the tenets of Islam in no way are compatible with Democracy and/or any form of tolerance, for Islam itself in it's purest form is extremely intolerant, brutal, hateful and primitive, in my book.

But this doesn't mean that an American Muslim should be disqualified from running for President. Let him or her run and let the voters decide. As soon as we start excluding groups from participating in events like this just because we do not like what they stand for, then we would not be much different than the fascists of the 1930s. We should have at least a little trust in the American voter and if we don't, then maybe America is not worth "saving", from, well, whatever.

Agreed. Even a Satanist can run.

True. And will never get elected. It's that simple.

And neither will a Muslim. But there is nothing wrong with a candidate to point out their opinion that they disagree with having a Muslim as president.

 

[Roudy]

Gay marriage is a recent phenomenon forced down the throats of an unwilling public by bullies and leftist fascists who are trying to impose their warped ideological vision of social engineering upon Western civilization.

And yet you compare THAT to the barbarism of the Shariah shitholes we see across the Islamic world. Take a hike.

In other words we compare something don't like with something you do like, and you say we can't compare the two.

In other words it's a false comparison. Most of the countries living under Shariah law are barbaric shitholes of intolerance and persecution. While most Christian nations are tolerant democracies.

Yes, Sharia Law countries are not great places for freedom, human rights, democracy etc.

However saying that in one sentence, then saying that the US should take away human rights and freedom from Americans doesn't exactly make your case for freedom and Human Rights any better, does it?

Shariah takes away human rights and that's basically what Ben Carson correctly noted.

Yes, Sharia isn't about Human Rights. Not all Muslims are into Sharia though. Also, there are people who aren't Muslims who are also into taking away people's Human Rights, such as people like Davis who wants to stop gay people getting married.

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

 

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Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

 

[Roudy]

Carson is fine discriminating against Muslims

A generation ago, it would have been him

Did black people go around killing people just because they were white 50 years ago?

Do Muslims born in the US, go around killing people?

Ha ha ha ha. Are you denying that the U.S. intelligence isn't worried about homegrown terrorism coming from American born and naturalized U.S. Citizens? Liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

[BlueGin]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

As pointed out with Obama being elected twice

52% of the people are stupid

-Geaux

I just love how the rwnjs make themselves look stupid.

So go vote for a Muslim and stop whining.

 

[Pogo]

He's right, as we can see, Islam is incompatible with freedom and democracy.

I agree with you that the tenets of Islam in no way are compatible with Democracy and/or any form of tolerance, for Islam itself in it's purest form is extremely intolerant, brutal, hateful and primitive, in my book.

But this doesn't mean that an American Muslim should be disqualified from running for President. Let him or her run and let the voters decide. As soon as we start excluding groups from participating in events like this just because we do not like what they stand for, then we would not be much different than the fascists of the 1930s. We should have at least a little trust in the American voter and if we don't, then maybe America is not worth "saving", from, well, whatever.

Agreed. Even a Satanist can run.

True. And will never get elected. It's that simple.

And neither will a Muslim. But there is nothing wrong with a candidate to point out their opinion that they disagree with having a Muslim as president.

Why are you trying to morph what the speaker said?

He says "we" -- not "he", "we" should not put a member of a given religion in the Presidency. He said a certain religion is inconsistent with the Constitution.

If he wants to walk that back, that will be HIS job --- not yours.

 

[Roudy]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

 

[Roudy]

He's right, as we can see, Islam is incompatible with freedom and democracy.

I agree with you that the tenets of Islam in no way are compatible with Democracy and/or any form of tolerance, for Islam itself in it's purest form is extremely intolerant, brutal, hateful and primitive, in my book.

But this doesn't mean that an American Muslim should be disqualified from running for President. Let him or her run and let the voters decide. As soon as we start excluding groups from participating in events like this just because we do not like what they stand for, then we would not be much different than the fascists of the 1930s. We should have at least a little trust in the American voter and if we don't, then maybe America is not worth "saving", from, well, whatever.

Agreed. Even a Satanist can run.

True. And will never get elected. It's that simple.

And neither will a Muslim. But there is nothing wrong with a candidate to point out their opinion that they disagree with having a Muslim as president.

Why are you trying to morph what the speaker said?

He says "we" -- not "he", "we" should not put a member of a given religion in the Presidency. He said a certain religion is inconsistent with the Constitution.

If he wants to walk that back, that will be HIS job --- not yours.

Yes, he has said that Islam is not compatible with, and he is correct. Maybe it isn't the politically correct thing to say, but not all religions are equal.

 

[Pogo]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

A religion -- any religion -- isn't "compatible" or "incompatible" with the COTUS. They're two different things.

 

[Pogo]

I agree with you that the tenets of Islam in no way are compatible with Democracy and/or any form of tolerance, for Islam itself in it's purest form is extremely intolerant, brutal, hateful and primitive, in my book.

But this doesn't mean that an American Muslim should be disqualified from running for President. Let him or her run and let the voters decide. As soon as we start excluding groups from participating in events like this just because we do not like what they stand for, then we would not be much different than the fascists of the 1930s. We should have at least a little trust in the American voter and if we don't, then maybe America is not worth "saving", from, well, whatever.

Agreed. Even a Satanist can run.

True. And will never get elected. It's that simple.

And neither will a Muslim. But there is nothing wrong with a candidate to point out their opinion that they disagree with having a Muslim as president.

Why are you trying to morph what the speaker said?

He says "we" -- not "he", "we" should not put a member of a given religion in the Presidency. He said a certain religion is inconsistent with the Constitution.

If he wants to walk that back, that will be HIS job --- not yours.

Yes, he has said that Islam is not compatible with, and he is correct. Maybe it isn't the politically correct thing to say, but not all religions are equal.

Sorry Heinz but the Constitution says they are. Now you wanna rewrite that too?

 

[Pogo]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

Bullshit. Some were Christians, some were Deists, some were atheists. But NONE of them wrote religion into the fabric of the country. Matter of fact they deliberately wrote the COTUS to protect us from this kind of tomfoolery.

Rewriting history now -- hey why not go for the Trifecta.

 

[Roudy]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

Bullshit. Some were Christians, some were Deists, some were atheists. But NONE of them wrote religion into the fabric of the country. Matter of fact they deliberately wrote the COTUS to protect us from this kind of tomfoolery.

Rewriting history now -- hey why not go for the Trifecta.

Didn't say they were all devout dufus. Point is some of the architects of the constitution were indeed devout Christians who created this document they felt was not inconsistent with the faith.

Here is Bill Maher basically saying what Ben Carson is saying:

 

[Mac1958]

Is that what he said?
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Oh bloody hell- he might as well have said it. I said that's what he THINKS. Just like he THINKS women can't make rational 'educated' decisions about their own bodies...just like he THINKS prison life turns people gay.... just like he THINKS Obamacare is as bad as slavery was... just like he THINKS that the US has turned into Nazi Germany.

So why is it out of the realm that he actually believes that Muslims aren't fit for position of POTUS ?

That's not what he said.

He said he would not support a Muslim for President, because he doesn't feel that Islam is consistent with the Constitution.

It's impossible to discuss this if you keep misrepresenting what he actually said.
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Then he should have said ' I personally believe....' but he didn't. He went right up to the edge of that cliff but didn't jump off. Christianity, & Judaism isn't consistent with a secular Constitution either. Do you think the religion of the current POTUS should have ever been raised over the past 7 years?

If he indeed went up to the edge of the cliff, the Democrats tried to push him off. And they're doing so in a very dishonest way, constantly and voluntarily misrepresenting what he said. As we see on this thread.

And to answer your question, I think this "Obama is a Muslim" stuff is ridiculous.

I'm consistent.
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I'm not a Democrat.

I didn't say that you were.

I said "they".
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[Roudy]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

A religion -- any religion -- isn't "compatible" or "incompatible" with the COTUS. They're two different things.

He said Islam isn't compatible with the constitution and he is correct. A vast majority of Americans will agree with that. Maybe some of them are liberal pussies who are afraid of becoming outcasts among their friends, and won't say the obvious.

 

[Avatar4321]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

Bullshit. Some were Christians, some were Deists, some were atheists. But NONE of them wrote religion into the fabric of the country. Matter of fact they deliberately wrote the COTUS to protect us from this kind of tomfoolery.

Rewriting history now -- hey why not go for the Trifecta.

You do realize they wrote the first amendment right? That is writing religious freedom into the constitution.

 

[bripat9643]

The Democrat Party has a religious litmus test that says no Christians.

Uhm, no. You are stupid.

Lots of Christians are Democrats. Millions of them, as a matter of fact.
And lots and lots of Jews are also Democrats.

They would never elect a believing Christian to office. I doubt most of them go to church.

Ahhhh, so, you think they are only Christian if there is an (R) next to their names....

LOL....

Democrats have made their hostility to Christianity quite plane. The assholes in this forum insult Christians on a daily basis.

You are a Christian?!??

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No I'm not. I'm a hardcore atheist

He is a right wing loon who denies evolution, knows nothing about vaccines, compares obamacare to slavery..

Hates the constitution, wants sharia law.

IOW, a perfect choice for the RW traitors.

Leftwingers are the ones who don't have a problem with Sharia. They keep telling us that Islam should be treated with respect.

The Right has its own ideas for a Sharia of their own .. Christian Sharia.

Over 200 years of US history we see no sign of a Christian Sharia.

The left tries to constantly fraudulently equivocate Islam and Islamic behavior with Christianity. That pig won't fly.

Plenty of signs.. Do you remember how long gay marriage was banned for? How one party wants to control women's bodies? Keep gays out of the military? Women?

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[Pogo]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

A religion -- any religion -- isn't "compatible" or "incompatible" with the COTUS. They're two different things.

He said Islam isn't compatible with the constitution and he is correct. A vast majority of Americans will agree with that. Maybe some of them are liberal pussies who are afraid of becoming outcasts among their friends, and won't say the obvious.

Islam is a religion.
The Constitution is a legal structure.

They're two different things. The latter is public, the former private.

I don't know or give a flying rat's ass **** what kind of loaded question your fantasy "vast majority" will "agree" with, I'm interested in what makes sense. That's why I correct you -- you don't.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

As if that is any different than you HYPOCRITES saying Christians shouldn't be in charge.

How pathetic you don't even recognize your own hypocrisy

 

[Pogo]

Whereas Shariah law will just hang all the gays, like medieval Neanderthal barbarians.

More than a few Christian fundies have said as much. Some have even run for office.

Christianity has shown to be compatible with the U.S. Constitution and democracy in general. Islam has not. This country was established by devout Christians, dufus.

Bullshit. Some were Christians, some were Deists, some were atheists. But NONE of them wrote religion into the fabric of the country. Matter of fact they deliberately wrote the COTUS to protect us from this kind of tomfoolery.

Rewriting history now -- hey why not go for the Trifecta.

You do realize they wrote the first amendment right? That is writing religious freedom into the constitution.

Thank you. Exactly my point.
Which means you can't just walk up and cherrypick a religion and say "not you". Which is what Carson is advocating here.