Ben Carson Likens Islamic State To American Patriots

[nodoginnafight]

The guy doesn't speak like a polished politician. So what. I find plenty to disagree with in his positions rather than in the way he presents them. I consider swipes about the way things were worded - when the meaning is perfectly clear to me - to be cheap shops.

My big question is why is Fox News (the source of the story) taking cheap swipes at Carson? They are the communications wing of the GOP - so apparently some pretty big muckety mucks in the GOP are trying to throw Carson under the bus.

Why?

They are tired of projecting a wing of the Republican's as the Party of Stupid.

If that were the case - there are others they could go after too. Who knows - maybe they will. But not being to gauge his words more carefully as a polished politician would is not his biggest shortcoming imho.

 

[deltex1]

its not about what Carson said...it's about avoiding what Obabble babbles.

 

[haissem123]

Arent there already 3 other threads on this?
Libs are stupid. They simply dont understand what Carson wrote. I'm not a fan of the Carson For President movement. But at least read what he actually said.

yeah, it might not be as bad as this guy makes it out to be. that 's if your mind isn't burdened and bound by any bias.

 

[nodoginnafight]

its not about what Carson said...it's about avoiding what Obabble babbles.

So how come Fox News is avoiding what "Obabble babbles" ?

 

[deltex1]

its not about what Carson said...it's about avoiding what Obabble babbles.

So how come Fox News is avoiding what "Obabble babbles" ?

**** Fox News...I'm talking about what LIBTARDS choose to post

 

[nodoginnafight]

its not about what Carson said...it's about avoiding what Obabble babbles.

So how come Fox News is avoiding what "Obabble babbles" ?

**** Fox News...I'm talking about what LIBTARDS choose to post

Just can't discuss anything except "stupid libtards"?

but the post STILL doesn't make much sense. What point are you trying to make?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

"Republican presidential prospect Ben Carson on Thursday compared the Islamic State group to American patriots willing to die for freedom."

Its good to know whose side he's on.

Republicans are such fools.

 

[peach174]

I never said it was.
I never implied it was.
Freedom of speech is for all Americans but PC is violating all of our 1st amendment rights.

How does it violate our first amendment rights?

See the link in post #120.

Who is pretending this?

Well Peaches WAS
But I think he/she is coming off that stance a bit

No I wasn't.
It seems to have gone over some heads about the explanation of our basic principals and values.
Why is it that the right can see and understand it but the left are not able to?
Ben Carson understands it and sees it quite well.

I just wonder why so many folks can't resist the temptation to blame absolutely everything on the "other side"

But yes, you WERE saying that political correctness is a threat to our First Amendment Rights when it clearly is NOT a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment is a legal issue - political correctness is NOT a legal issue because no one is getting into any legal trouble for "violating" political correctness.

It is about our 1st amendment rights.
People are being taken to court over being offended.
There is no rights to not be offended.

Peaches, you are just all over the place.
First you said political correctness is threatening our First Amendment rights
Then you said it wasn't
Now you say it is again.

In the United States of American, you can sue someone for ANYTHING.
Doesn't mean you can win - but you can take 'em to court and try.

I really don't want to sound mean - but what you've posted here today shows absolutely NO understanding of what the First Amendment is and what it is supposed to protect. Maybe that's why you mostly just cut and paste that Collierville blogger (who seems to be equally challenged) and then talk about things going "over" other people's heads.

Trust me, you haven't come close to posting anything (no matter how many times you repeat the same paste over and over) that goes over my head.

I understand your posts COMPLETELY and I understand how COMPLETELY wrong you are.

If your vision of the First Amendment was ever enforced it would absolutely destroy free speech in America. I'm sorry that you can't follow that - but the fact that you don't follow, doesn't change the facts.

I hope I haven't been offensive - but your posts are just so ill-informed I can't pretend they are credible just to be polite. I wish you the very best.

I can say the same with many here on the left on the board about being ill-informed.
Where did I say it wasn't about our 1st amendment?
I have been consistent with it being about our 1st amendment and our principals and values.
What vision have I given? Freedom of speech.
Many of you are the ones not understanding what it means.
You are accusing me of the very thing that PC promotes.
You are all over me about this, but at least half the nation understands it and agrees with what I and Ben Carson are saying.

 

[Contumacious]

Rut-roh! Fox news already going after Ben Carson... guess someone upstairs doesn't like him so much....

Presidential prospect Ben Carson makes questionable comparison Fox News

Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson compared the Islamic State terrorist group to American patriots willing to die for freedom.

Carson praised Americans who are willing to die for their beliefs at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting outside San Diego Thursday.

Carson then mentions ISIS.

"They got the wrong philosophy, but they're willing to die for what they believe, while we are busily giving away every belief and every value for the sake of political correctness," he said as Republican officials from across the country interrupted him with applause. "We have to change that."

Commonly known as ISIS, the Islamic State group has been responsible for hundreds of deaths across the Middle East in recent months. Islamic State militants claimed responsibility for recent beheadings of Western journalists and aid workers. One of the suspects in the recent Paris terror attacks claimed allegiance to the Islamic State group.

Carson defended his comments saying it is "ridiculous" to say he was comparing American patriots to the Islamic State.

So, who told FOX to pull the plug on Carson?

Questionable comparison..........hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Let's see King George was tyrannizing the colonists and then they chose liberty or death


The Judeo-American axis of evil has been inflicting death and injury on the Muslims and they have chosen Liberty or death.

WHY is the comparison questionable?


Americans have been subjected to federal tyranny since 1935 - yet no one challenges their authority - ISIS has .

.

When was the last time the feds led an attack on an unarmed cartoon house?

HUH?

Isn't it a fact that the US slaughtered over 1,000,000 children during the 18 year invasion of Iraq? Didn't Madeline Albright admitted to CBS 60 minutes that the carnage was worthy?

Didn't Israel slaughtered women and children in Southern Lebanon? Hasn't the Jewish State slaughtered millions of Palestinian Arabs since it invaded Palestine in 1925?


.

 

[deltex1]

its not about what Carson said...it's about avoiding what Obabble babbles.

So how come Fox News is avoiding what "Obabble babbles" ?

**** Fox News...I'm talking about what LIBTARDS choose to post

Just can't discuss anything except "stupid libtards"?

but the post STILL doesn't make much sense. What point are you trying to make?

The point is that dumbasses like the OP will lie or misinterpret the truth so they can fill the board with diversions so as not to have to talk about the president's dismal record. You get three Katyushas for missing the point.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Peaches,
Even YOU can't keep up with what you've posted.

Yes, you could say many on the left are ill-informed. And you'd be right. But no matter HOW ill-informed other people are - that doesn't make YOU any better informed.

The vision you have given is that people who agree with you should be able to say whatever they want and if anyone disagrees with them they are violating the First Amendment if they say so.

And no - you are in a very small minority of people who want to dismantle the first amendment.

Thank God.

 

[BlindBoo]

Rut-roh! Fox news already going after Ben Carson... guess someone upstairs doesn't like him so much....

Presidential prospect Ben Carson makes questionable comparison Fox News

Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson compared the Islamic State terrorist group to American patriots willing to die for freedom.

Carson praised Americans who are willing to die for their beliefs at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting outside San Diego Thursday.

Carson then mentions ISIS.

"They got the wrong philosophy, but they're willing to die for what they believe, while we are busily giving away every belief and every value for the sake of political correctness," he said as Republican officials from across the country interrupted him with applause. "We have to change that."

Commonly known as ISIS, the Islamic State group has been responsible for hundreds of deaths across the Middle East in recent months. Islamic State militants claimed responsibility for recent beheadings of Western journalists and aid workers. One of the suspects in the recent Paris terror attacks claimed allegiance to the Islamic State group.

Carson defended his comments saying it is "ridiculous" to say he was comparing American patriots to the Islamic State.

So, who told FOX to pull the plug on Carson?

Questionable comparison..........hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Let's see King George was tyrannizing the colonists and then they chose liberty or death


The Judeo-American axis of evil has been inflicting death and injury on the Muslims and they have chosen Liberty or death.

WHY is the comparison questionable?


Americans have been subjected to federal tyranny since 1935 - yet no one challenges their authority - ISIS has .

.

When was the last time the feds led an attack on an unarmed cartoon house?

HUH?

Isn't it a fact that the US slaughtered over 1,000,000 children during the 18 year invasion of Iraq? Didn't Madeline Albright admitted to CBS 60 minutes that the carnage was worthy?

Didn't Israel slaughtered women and children in Southern Lebanon? Hasn't the Jewish State slaughtered millions of Palestinian Arabs since it invaded Palestine in 1925?


.

Which cartoon was it that led to our intervention into Iraq? Don't say Raygun! And don't take that as an endorsement.

 

[nodoginnafight]

How does it violate our first amendment rights?

See the link in post #120.

Well Peaches WAS
But I think he/she is coming off that stance a bit

No I wasn't.
It seems to have gone over some heads about the explanation of our basic principals and values.
Why is it that the right can see and understand it but the left are not able to?
Ben Carson understands it and sees it quite well.

I just wonder why so many folks can't resist the temptation to blame absolutely everything on the "other side"

But yes, you WERE saying that political correctness is a threat to our First Amendment Rights when it clearly is NOT a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment is a legal issue - political correctness is NOT a legal issue because no one is getting into any legal trouble for "violating" political correctness.

It is about our 1st amendment rights.
People are being taken to court over being offended.
There is no rights to not be offended.

Peaches, you are just all over the place.
First you said political correctness is threatening our First Amendment rights
Then you said it wasn't
Now you say it is again.

In the United States of American, you can sue someone for ANYTHING.
Doesn't mean you can win - but you can take 'em to court and try.

I really don't want to sound mean - but what you've posted here today shows absolutely NO understanding of what the First Amendment is and what it is supposed to protect. Maybe that's why you mostly just cut and paste that Collierville blogger (who seems to be equally challenged) and then talk about things going "over" other people's heads.

Trust me, you haven't come close to posting anything (no matter how many times you repeat the same paste over and over) that goes over my head.

I understand your posts COMPLETELY and I understand how COMPLETELY wrong you are.

If your vision of the First Amendment was ever enforced it would absolutely destroy free speech in America. I'm sorry that you can't follow that - but the fact that you don't follow, doesn't change the facts.

I hope I haven't been offensive - but your posts are just so ill-informed I can't pretend they are credible just to be polite. I wish you the very best.

I can say the same with many here on the left on the board about being ill-informed.
Where did I say it wasn't about our 1st amendment?
I have been consistent with it being about our 1st amendment and our principals and values.
What vision have I given? Freedom of speech.
Many of you are the ones not understanding what it means.
You are accusing me of the very thing that PC promotes.
You are all over me about this, but at least half the nation understands it and agrees with what I and Ben Carson are saying.

its not about what Carson said...it's about avoiding what Obabble babbles.

So how come Fox News is avoiding what "Obabble babbles" ?

**** Fox News...I'm talking about what LIBTARDS choose to post

Just can't discuss anything except "stupid libtards"?

but the post STILL doesn't make much sense. What point are you trying to make?

The point is that dumbasses like the OP will lie or misinterpret the truth so they can fill the board with diversions so as not to have to talk about the president's dismal record. You get three Katyushas for missing the point.

Yes, yes, it's all my fault for not following what you meant by your crystal clear, insightful post. Have a nice evening.

 

[peach174]

I never said it was.
I never implied it was.
Freedom of speech is for all Americans but PC is violating all of our 1st amendment rights.

How does it violate our first amendment rights?

See the link in post #120.

Who is pretending this?

Well Peaches WAS
But I think he/she is coming off that stance a bit

No I wasn't.
It seems to have gone over some heads about the explanation of our basic principals and values.
Why is it that the right can see and understand it but the left are not able to?
Ben Carson understands it and sees it quite well.

I just wonder why so many folks can't resist the temptation to blame absolutely everything on the "other side"

But yes, you WERE saying that political correctness is a threat to our First Amendment Rights when it clearly is NOT a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment is a legal issue - political correctness is NOT a legal issue because no one is getting into any legal trouble for "violating" political correctness.

It is about our 1st amendment rights.
People are being taken to court over being offended.
There is no rights to not be offended.

Who is being taken to court over being offended?

The Missouri State Fair has permanently banned a rodeo clown from performing just because he wore a Obama mask, and now all of the other rodeo clowns are being required to take sensitivity training.
The state commission went further, saying it will require that before the Rodeo Cowboy Association can take part in any future state fair, “they must provide evidence to the director of the Missouri State Fair that they have proof that all officials and subcontractors of the MRCA have successfully participated in sensitivity training.”
There are a whole bunch of political incorrect court cases

 

[Statistikhengst]

So, he is feeding red meat to a very red-meat addicted base. What is wrong with that? I personally can live with that. For those things are still inconsequential to the fact that nothing he said is questionable or controversial.

Pretending that PCism has something to do with free speech or the destruction of society is questionable and retarded.

Who is pretending this?

"we are busily giving away every belief and every value for the sake of political correctness"

^total BS

But it's his right to say as much BS as he wants and certainly that is not controversial.

He can say whatever he wants and we are equally entitled to call him out for his bullshit. Not sure what point you are attempting to make.

Actually, exactly what you meant. You may now put your phaser away.

 

[nodoginnafight]

How does it violate our first amendment rights?

See the link in post #120.

Well Peaches WAS
But I think he/she is coming off that stance a bit

No I wasn't.
It seems to have gone over some heads about the explanation of our basic principals and values.
Why is it that the right can see and understand it but the left are not able to?
Ben Carson understands it and sees it quite well.

I just wonder why so many folks can't resist the temptation to blame absolutely everything on the "other side"

But yes, you WERE saying that political correctness is a threat to our First Amendment Rights when it clearly is NOT a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment is a legal issue - political correctness is NOT a legal issue because no one is getting into any legal trouble for "violating" political correctness.

It is about our 1st amendment rights.
People are being taken to court over being offended.
There is no rights to not be offended.

Who is being taken to court over being offended?

The Missouri State Fair has permanently banned a rodeo clown from performing just because he wore a Obama mask, and now all of the other rodeo clowns are being required to take sensitivity training.
The state commission went further, saying it will require that before the Rodeo Cowboy Association can take part in any future state fair, “they must provide evidence to the director of the Missouri State Fair that they have proof that all officials and subcontractors of the MRCA have successfully participated in sensitivity training.”
There are a whole bunch of political incorrect court cases

If the Missouri State Fair doesn't want to turn their rodeo into a political event - you think the government should FORCE them to let some clown do it?. WHO HIRED THAT FREAKIN' CLOWN PEACHES? SHOULDN'T THAT PERSON BE THE ONE TO TELL HIM WHAT KINDA MASK HE CAN WEAR - YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD TELL THE FAIR WHAT KINDA MASK HE SHOULD WEAR?

My God you just keep posting the same stupid crap OVER and OVER.

And later - when a spark lights up and you realize how stupid it is - you say - oh, I never said that ...

Jeez - look - just don't respond to me and I won't respond to you anymore.

 

[BlindBoo]

How does it violate our first amendment rights?

See the link in post #120.

Well Peaches WAS
But I think he/she is coming off that stance a bit

No I wasn't.
It seems to have gone over some heads about the explanation of our basic principals and values.
Why is it that the right can see and understand it but the left are not able to?
Ben Carson understands it and sees it quite well.

I just wonder why so many folks can't resist the temptation to blame absolutely everything on the "other side"

But yes, you WERE saying that political correctness is a threat to our First Amendment Rights when it clearly is NOT a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment is a legal issue - political correctness is NOT a legal issue because no one is getting into any legal trouble for "violating" political correctness.

It is about our 1st amendment rights.
People are being taken to court over being offended.
There is no rights to not be offended.

Who is being taken to court over being offended?

The Missouri State Fair has permanently banned a rodeo clown from performing just because he wore a Obama mask, and now all of the other rodeo clowns are being required to take sensitivity training.
The state commission went further, saying it will require that before the Rodeo Cowboy Association can take part in any future state fair, “they must provide evidence to the director of the Missouri State Fair that they have proof that all officials and subcontractors of the MRCA have successfully participated in sensitivity training.”
There are a whole bunch of political incorrect court cases

Haha. I remember that. Just a mask? Right! But it was just a Rodeo in Podunktown MO. No biggy.


Rodeo announcer Mark Ficken, president of the Missouri Cowboy Rodeo Association and a school superintendent, announced a special guest: "President Obama."

Another voice is heard over the loudspeaker working up the crowd and saying, "We're going to stomp Obama now."

"As soon as this bull comes out, Obama, don't you move," the second voice said. "He's going to getcha, getcha getcha, getcha."

Rodeo clown mocks Obama at Missouri State Fair - CNN.com

"The Sport of Rodeo is not meant to be a political platform. We are taking measures by training and educating our contract acts to prevent anything like this from ever happening again," a statement on the group's website said. "All Members of the Missouri Rodeo Cowboy Association are very proud of our Country and our President."

And Republican Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder called for those responsible to be held accountable.

"I condemn the actions disrespectful to POTUS" -- president of the United States -- "the other night," he said in a post to his official Twitter account. "We are better than this."

 

[peach174]

Peaches,
Even YOU can't keep up with what you've posted.

Yes, you could say many on the left are ill-informed. And you'd be right. But no matter HOW ill-informed other people are - that doesn't make YOU any better informed.

The vision you have given is that people who agree with you should be able to say whatever they want and if anyone disagrees with them they are violating the First Amendment if they say so.

And no - you are in a very small minority of people who want to dismantle the first amendment.

Thank God.

That is the total opposite of what I said.
That is what I said about what Political Correctness does.
I do not want to dismantle the 1st amendment.
People like me want to save the 1st amendment.
I do not want a George Orwell political correctness where society describes a set of acceptable beliefs, outside of which no one is not permitted to step.
No dissident thinkers need apply.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Carson is now claiming he's being taken out of context, despite the fact the entire context of what he said is readily available.

lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

Peaches,
Even YOU can't keep up with what you've posted.

Yes, you could say many on the left are ill-informed. And you'd be right. But no matter HOW ill-informed other people are - that doesn't make YOU any better informed.

The vision you have given is that people who agree with you should be able to say whatever they want and if anyone disagrees with them they are violating the First Amendment if they say so.

And no - you are in a very small minority of people who want to dismantle the first amendment.

Thank God.

That is the total opposite of what I said.
That is what I said about what Political Correctness does.
I do not want to dismantle the 1st amendment.
People like me want to save the 1st amendment.
I do not want a George Orwell political correctness where society describes a set of acceptable beliefs, outside of which no one is not permitted to step.
No dissident thinkers need apply.

So you don't object to the so-called ground zero mosque?