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Being a Republican Is Hazardous to Your Health

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Those "right to work" ( but not really) Laws are biting them in the ass on workplace vaccination mandates.

Vax mandates are NOT EQUIVALENT with "right to work" laws.. Right to work laws target 3rd party interference in employee-employer relationships.. NOT the fundamental contractuals between you and your employer..

I'm here all day to explain how things REALLY WORK to leftists. It's a full time job lately.. Over my message board years, I've not had this problem when liberals were liberals. But this a SECURE job for me -- so I'm good with it.. LOL...
 

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Sorry, see the NYT analysis. In districts that went for Trump by 70% or greater we had 47 deaths per 100k. Others (and that would include primarily black districts) the.number was under 10. This ain’t rocket science my friend.

That's crap.. And you ATE IT.. What's the date on the story? Were they counting ONLY the deaths that occurred AFTER end of April when the vaccines were widely available? Doing this BY DISTRICT is problematic because hospitals overlap districts. And what does a "district" mean in Mississippi or Lousiana?
 

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How would anyone know if someone is of any political party?

Lol do they ask that at the jab site or hospital?

Jebus

They're comparing the rates of disease and death for states that voted for Trump. The bigger the vote for Trump, the higher the rate of disease and death - based on population.

Doctors in Red States are having to deal with people who refuse to believe they have covid, because it's a "hoax", or conversely, demanding ivermectin to treat it. This is ALL on right wing media.
 

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Vax mandates are NOT EQUIVALENT with "right to work" laws.. Right to work laws target 3rd party interference in employee-employer relationships.. NOT the fundamental contractuals between you and your employer..

I'm here all day to explain how things REALLY WORK to leftists. It's a full time job lately.. Over my message board years, I've not had this problem when liberals were liberals. But this a SECURE job for me -- so I'm good with it.. LOL...

"3rd party interference"??? What bullshit. Right to work laws are intended to bust unions and leave workers powerless in dealing with employers. They've been really effective in America's "race to the bottom".

Only in the USA are hard working people seen as shiftless, lazy, and not worthy of receiving a living wage. The rest of the First World, ensures that the workers are paid FIRST. And that they have quality health care.

This denigration of working people in America is shameful. Reward work, not wealth. This didn't happen before Reagan changed your tax code to reward the rich and punish the poor.
 

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Vax mandates are NOT EQUIVALENT with "right to work" laws.. Right to work laws target 3rd party interference in employee-employer relationships.. NOT the fundamental contractuals between you and your employer..

I'm here all day to explain how things REALLY WORK to leftists. It's a full time job lately.. Over my message board years, I've not had this problem when liberals were liberals. But this a SECURE job for me -- so I'm good with it.. LOL...
What mandates?
 

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"3rd party interference"??? What bullshit. Right to work laws are intended to bust unions and leave workers powerless in dealing with employers.

Yep. You just said it yourself. It's UNLIKE an employer mandate on Covid vax -- because right to work is NOT about employer-employee contracts -- Its all about 3rd parties. Dont CARE if that 3rd party is sometimes helpful or sometimes toxic. The ANALOGY between right to work and Covid vax dont fly..
 

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What mandates?

YOU were equating employer vax mandates with right to work LAWS.. There's no connection, no analogy there for reasons that I just explained.

"right to work" as an issue doesn't have a broader meaning than KEEPING the contract free of 3rd party demands and mandates.
 

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That's crap.. And you ATE IT.. What's the date on the story? Were they counting ONLY the deaths that occurred AFTER end of April when the vaccines were widely available? Doing this BY DISTRICT is problematic because hospitals overlap districts. And what does a "district" mean in Mississippi or Lousiana?

I’ll find you the story in AM. I also have some interesting stats on Black vaccinations. They are at 70% nationally. IOW - there is no longer a gap. So you don’t gedda use that excuse no mas. No sir, our problem is Republicans who bought into disinformation and conspiracy theories - Plain & simple. ;)
 

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YOU were equating employer vax mandates with right to work LAWS.. There's no connection, no analogy there for reasons that I just explained.

"right to work" as an issue doesn't have a broader meaning than KEEPING the contract free of 3rd party demands and mandates.
No, I was pointing out how the right to work laws make it easy for employers to fire workers who don't comply with company policies like being vaccinated.

Show me a mandate, please.
 

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No, I was pointing out how the right to work laws make it easy for employers to fire workers who don't comply with company policies like being vaccinated.

Show me a mandate, please.

Cant show you a mandate on PAPER.. Biden is faking it right now and waiting for OSHA to be the "fall guys:" when the vax mandate gets tossed by the courts..

Right to WORK LAWS give EMPLOYERS - no special rights to meddle in DIRECTING an employee against their will.. Pure and simple. Only the stupid are gonna continue beating this really stinky "analogy" to death here..

If you just can't drop it -- explain to the class how "right to work" legislation gives employers the RIGHT to MANDATE any health requirement that THEY DIDN"T ALREADY HAVE BEFORE "right to work"..

The UNIONS are not gonna protect the folks here. So get off that high horse.. Because you'll never see the "govt employee's unions" SAVING these vax resisters from high handed management..

If ya think the UNIONS are gonna protect them -- you're more childishly naive than I thought..

And THAT's what "right to work" IS AXTUALLY about" .. Isn't it? You consumed some bad analysis from one of those raving partisan marxist wannabees without any critical thought involved..
 

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Cant show you a mandate on PAPER.. Biden is faking it right now and waiting for OSHA to be the "fall guys:" when the vax mandate gets tossed by the courts..

Right to WORK LAWS give EMPLOYERS - no special rights to meddle in DIRECTING an employee against their will.. Pure and simple. Only the stupid are gonna continue beating this really stinky "analogy" to death here..

If you just can't drop it -- explain to the class how "right to work" legislation gives employers the RIGHT to MANDATE any health requirement that THEY DIDN"T ALREADY HAVE BEFORE "right to work"..

The UNIONS are not gonna protect the folks here. So get off that high horse.. Because you'll never see the "govt employee's unions" SAVING these vax resisters from high handed management..

If ya think the UNIONS are gonna protect them -- you're more childishly naive than I thought..

And THAT's what "right to work" IS AXTUALLY about" .. Isn't it? You consumed some bad analysis from one of those raving partisan marxist wannabees without any critical thought involved..
The so called "right to work" legislation gives employers the right to fire anyone for any reason that's.not specifically protected as discrimination. Vaccines are not so covered.

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The so called "right to work" legislation gives employers the right to fire anyone for any reason that's.not specifically protected as discrimination. Vaccines are not so covered.

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No sir-eee- bob.. Employers HAD that right BEFORE any "right to work" law. Did a Union rep explain "right to work" giving employer ANY rights? It doesn't. That act simply addresses how THIRD PARTIES outside the employer/employee relation and contract can operate.. IE -- Unions..

Right to Work as a legality gave employers only "imaginary rights" to go Stalinista in the minds of the Unions and their members..

And you dragged this faulty union meme through the desert of critical thinking without realizing that there's NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER between right to work and LEGALITY of employer vax mandates..

As I said -- If RIght to Work didn't EXIST - there would be no diff in the legal standing of employer vax mandate.. AND if there WAS right to work in effect -- the UNIONS who USUALLY FIGHT for those employees -- would turn their backs on those vax resisting employees anyways>

Because no union is gonna go counter to great tyrannical Biden wishes. They're more than pleased to help out the hand that feeds them..
 

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No sir-eee- bob.. Employers HAD that right BEFORE any "right to work" law. Did a Union rep explain "right to work" giving employer ANY rights? It doesn't. That act simply addresses how THIRD PARTIES outside the employer/employee relation and contract can operate.. IE -- Unions..

Right to Work as a legality gave employers only "imaginary rights" to go Stalinista in the minds of the Unions and their members..

And you dragged this faulty union meme through the desert of critical thinking without realizing that there's NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER between right to work and LEGALITY of employer vax mandates..

As I said -- If RIght to Work didn't EXIST - there would be no diff in the legal standing of employer vax mandate.. AND if there WAS right to work in effect -- the UNIONS who USUALLY FIGHT for those employees -- would turn their backs on those vax resisting employees anyways>

Because no union is gonna go counter to great tyrannical Biden wishes. They're more than pleased to help out the hand that feeds them..
No union protections. Employers can fire anyone they want.
 

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This is tragic. Republicans are catching and dying from COVID at a much greater rate than Democrats.

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There is something deeply disturbing when people are willing to die for ideology over public health.
Cool. Lots of Trumpsters dying off in the swing states. Biden can make them vote Democrat from the grave.
 

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This was all part of the New York Democrat Donald Trump's plan. Infiltrate the GOP and destroy it from within. Get the tard herd to go along with adultery, stealing from the elderly, gambling, contests of the flesh, breaking all spending records, sleeping with porn stars, pathological lying, bearing false witness, grabbing pussies, multiple marriages. Hell, get them to go along with him shooting someone on Fifth Avenue just for fun! Amputate their moral legs at the hip.

Then slowly get them all to self-destruct and die off.

Special bonus. Since Democrats have been committing black genocide through abortion, get blacks to not take the Trump Vaccine and die off, too.

Trump will go down as one of the most brilliant evil geniuses ever.
 

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Fortunately I am neither Republican nor Democrat. Both agendas have enormous flaws.
 

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Cool. Lots of Trumpsters dying off in the swing states. Biden can make them vote Democrat from the grave.
Republicans are 100% wrong about Covid, but celebrating their deaths is evil.
 

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