Before 1948

[louie888]

...This was among the first things Jews taught their kids in schools for centuries, all around the world - while being persecuted by the nations for merely being Jews and foreigners.

TRANSLATION: THEY COULD NOT LIVE IN PEACE ANYWHERE THEY MOVED.

No, they simply didn't have the numbers to stand for themselves, and were perceived as foreigners. Then came the witch hunters...

Bullshit, try diocide, child sacrifice, banking crimes, the racist talmud being translated, etc..

But the real answer has more to do with LIVING. We Jews received the prophecy from Moses, before entering Canaan, and before his death.
Moses prepared us for the upcoming exiles where "You won't know what the light of the next day brings" and so on... He said we are to forget about surviving, but rather deal with LIVING.

That's why Jews say 'LeHaim' and bless the 'gefen'.

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

Who are You- from inquisition?

Of course many Rabbis have, it's a commandment from the Torah - to capture and inherit the land. Jews attempted and did so a number of times.

History for Dummies...

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

 

[rylah]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

When was the first time those who call themselves Palestinians constituted a distinct self governing nation?

Irish people have a distinct language and culture, and I don't think they held names of Mongol tribes...

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I'll bet Tinmore & Louie & the rest of their Pali terrorist supporting ilk even condemn Israel for saving thousands of Lebanese Chrisitian lives from Palestinian terrorists in the bunkers of Sabra & Shatila.

Strange you bring up Lebanon, isn't that where your so called Palestinians killed over 150,000 Christians?

Tinhead: "But but but they had no other choice!"

Are you talking about Israel's proxy army?

No I'm talking about Arafat and his group of murderous goons, did you forget what the animals did in Lebanon? In essence they committed ethnic cleansing on the Lebanese Christians.
Israel started that mess.

Why, yes. It was the fault of the Joooos. Isn't it always?

Violence sure seems to follow around Jews like the plague.... When Jews lived mostly in Central-East Europe, this region was extremely brutal... Now that Jews left Central-East Europe, for the Middle-East.. Central-East Europe now sees peace, while now it's the Middle-East around Israel which is extremely brutal.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

When was the first time those who call themselves Palestinians constituted a distinct self governing nation?

Irish people have a distinct language and culture, and I don't think they held names of Mongol tribes...

Are you arguing for one giant Arab state, rather than many smaller Arab states?

It's actually not in anyone's interest, especially most of all not in Israel's interest to have on giant Arab state.

 

[rylah]

...This was among the first things Jews taught their kids in schools for centuries, all around the world - while being persecuted by the nations for merely being Jews and foreigners.

TRANSLATION: THEY COULD NOT LIVE IN PEACE ANYWHERE THEY MOVED.

No, they simply didn't have the numbers to stand for themselves, and were perceived as foreigners. Then came the witch hunters...

Bullshit, try diocide, child sacrifice, banking crimes, the racist talmud being translated, etc..

But the real answer has more to do with LIVING. We Jews received the prophecy from Moses, before entering Canaan, and before his death.
Moses prepared us for the upcoming exiles where "You won't know what the light of the next day brings" and so on... He said we are to forget about surviving, but rather deal with LIVING.

That's why Jews say 'LeHaim' and bless the 'gefen'.

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

Who are You- from inquisition?

Of course many Rabbis have, it's a commandment from the Torah - to capture and inherit the land. Jews attempted and did so a number of times.

History for Dummies...

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

Read the answer I gave You, it comes straight from the 1st verse in the Torah.

 

[louie888]

TRANSLATION: THEY COULD NOT LIVE IN PEACE ANYWHERE THEY MOVED.

No, they simply didn't have the numbers to stand for themselves, and were perceived as foreigners. Then came the witch hunters...

Bullshit, try diocide, child sacrifice, banking crimes, the racist talmud being translated, etc..

But the real answer has more to do with LIVING. We Jews received the prophecy from Moses, before entering Canaan, and before his death.
Moses prepared us for the upcoming exiles where "You won't know what the light of the next day brings" and so on... He said we are to forget about surviving, but rather deal with LIVING.

That's why Jews say 'LeHaim' and bless the 'gefen'.

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

Who are You- from inquisition?

Of course many Rabbis have, it's a commandment from the Torah - to capture and inherit the land. Jews attempted and did so a number of times.

History for Dummies...

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

Read the answer I gave You, it comes straight from the 1st verse in the Torah.

Liar. NOTHING IN OUR TORAH INSTRUCTS US TO THIEVE AND MURDER.

 

[rylah]

No, they simply didn't have the numbers to stand for themselves, and were perceived as foreigners. Then came the witch hunters...

Bullshit, try diocide, child sacrifice, banking crimes, the racist talmud being translated, etc..

But the real answer has more to do with LIVING. We Jews received the prophecy from Moses, before entering Canaan, and before his death.
Moses prepared us for the upcoming exiles where "You won't know what the light of the next day brings" and so on... He said we are to forget about surviving, but rather deal with LIVING.

That's why Jews say 'LeHaim' and bless the 'gefen'.

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

Who are You- from inquisition?

Of course many Rabbis have, it's a commandment from the Torah - to capture and inherit the land. Jews attempted and did so a number of times.

History for Dummies...

And not once, prior to zionism had one of our rabbis or sages even suggested taking the holy land by force, let alone force that included the theft of land and murder of his children.

Read the answer I gave You, it comes straight from the 1st verse in the Torah.

Liar. NOTHING IN OUR TORAH INSTRUCTS US TO THIEVE AND MURDER.

You're totally RIGHT.
And therefore was my answer from the Torah and the classic Rabbis, Rashi and Rabbi Itshak

It was given in the first verse of the Torah:

"In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth."

- and explained by Rashi:

In the beginning: Said Rabbi Isaac: It was not necessary to begin the Torah except from “This month is to you,” (Exod. 12:2) which is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded...
Now for what reason did He commence with “In the beginning?” Because of [the verse] “The strength of His works He related to His people, to give them the inheritance of the nations” (Ps. 111:6).
For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

 

[Shusha]

Bullshit, try diocide ...

Assuming you mean "deicide" (meaning the murder of a god), you can't possibly continue to hold up the fiction that you are Jewish. Jews would not use that term. Except possibly in mockery.

 

[The Irish Ram]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

You could make that case for most of the earth. Kingdoms usurping kingdoms. Countries conquering countries. No one is clambering for a reset. The Arabs placed their brothers in that position, not to revive thir nation, but to make it easier to get at the Jews in Israel.
Don't take my word for it. Take King Hussein of Jordan's word for it:

The Arab nations that had rejected a Jewish state had added to the plight of the refugees by keeping them in refugee camps and not allowing them to integrate as Arab citizens in the countries where they had settled. Since 1948 Arab leaders have approached the problem in an irresponsible manner...for political purposes. This is ridiculous and, I could say, even criminal

.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.

But if you REALLY want to lay blame. HERE ARE THE CULPRITS:
Arab Institute for Palestine Studies in Beirut, Lebanon:

The majority of Arab refugees were NOT expelled by force, but fled of their OWN VOLITION.

April 27, 1950 The Arab National Committee of Haifa:

The removal of the Arab inhabitants was VOLUNTARY and carried out AT OUR REQUEST. We proudly asked for the evacuation of the Arabs and their removal to neighboring countries.

The motivation for the Arabs to leave their homes came FROM THE ARABS, NOT THE JEWS.

When it comes out of their own mouths, pay attention. They created the problem. Why do you want Israel to give up their tiny sliver because things didn't go well for the Arabs when they invaded Israel? The Jews publically asked them to stay. Their loyalty to the Arabs ended right there.

 

[rylah]

Bullshit, try diocide ...

Assuming you mean "deicide" (meaning the murder of a god), you can't possibly continue to hold up the fiction that you are Jewish. Jews would not use that term. Except possibly in mockery.

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

When was the first time those who call themselves Palestinians constituted a distinct self governing nation?

Irish people have a distinct language and culture, and I don't think they held names of Mongol tribes...

Are you arguing for one giant Arab state, rather than many smaller Arab states?

It's actually not in anyone's interest, especially most of all not in Israel's interest to have on giant Arab state.

I think it has always been the goal of the Arab league - unite all the middle east under Islam.

Expressed by the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat:

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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The majority of Arab refugees were NOT expelled by force, but fled of their OWN VOLITION.

April 27, 1950 The Arab National Committee of Haifa:

The removal of the Arab inhabitants was VOLUNTARY and carried out AT OUR REQUEST. We proudly asked for the evacuation of the Arabs and their removal to neighboring countries.

The motivation for the Arabs to leave their homes came FROM THE ARABS, NOT THE JEWS.

When it comes out of their own mouths, pay attention. They created the problem. Why do you want Israel to give up their tiny sliver because things didn't go well for the Arabs when they invaded Israel? The Jews publically asked them to stay. Their loyalty to the Arabs ended right there.

Or did Arabs leave because of Massacres like this by Jews upon Arabs?

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia

 

[rylah]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

You could make that case for most of the earth. Kingdoms usurping kingdoms. Countries conquering countries. No one is clambering for a reset. The Arabs placed their brothers in that position, not to revive thir nation, but to make it easier to get at the Jews in Israel.
Don't take my word for it. Take King Hussein of Jordan's word for it:

The Arab nations that had rejected a Jewish state had added to the plight of the refugees by keeping them in refugee camps and not allowing them to integrate as Arab citizens in the countries where they had settled. Since 1948 Arab leaders have approached the problem in an irresponsible manner...for political purposes. This is ridiculous and, I could say, even criminal

.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.

But if you REALLY want to lay blame. HERE ARE THE CULPRITS:
Arab Institute for Palestine Studies in Beirut, Lebanon:

The majority of Arab refugees were NOT expelled by force, but fled of their OWN VOLITION.

April 27, 1950 The Arab National Committee of Haifa:

The removal of the Arab inhabitants was VOLUNTARY and carried out AT OUR REQUEST. We proudly asked for the evacuation of the Arabs and their removal to neighboring countries.

The motivation for the Arabs to leave their homes came FROM THE ARABS, NOT THE JEWS.

When it comes out of their own mouths, pay attention. They created the problem. Why do you want Israel to give up their tiny sliver because things didn't go well for the Arabs when they invaded Israel? The Jews publically asked them to stay. Their loyalty to the Arabs ended right there.

WOW

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Dumb one, there were a small cult of them in biblical times and they were never there in any large numbers since ...

So they have been there for millennia, then. Just not very many of them.

That sounds about right.
The same goes for Christians too.
After Mohammad, the predominant religion in the Holy Land has been Islam of course, although Christians laid claim to the cradle of the Holy Faith.

The Looting of Jerusalem by Crusaders in A.D. 1099 when all Jews and Muslims were put to the sword making the city exclusively Christian. “The slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles.”

Interesting, all I see is another proof Jews were present, rights to their land, and connection to Jerusalem.

Although there were no Jews nor Muslims present in Jerusalem in A.D. 1099, no-one doubts that, like Christians and Muslims, some Jews remained in the Holy Land over the centuries if not in any significant numbers. The problem for Christians and Muslims nowadays is that, like the Crusaders of old, Zionists are attempting to maintain an exclusively Jewish sectarian state in a land where the indigenous Arabs have been and continue to be displaced and dispossessed. Zionists refused to share the land with Christians and Muslims who have lived in Palestine for many centuries. It is the reason Israel, including Judea and Sumeria, is doomed to become an official Apartheid state.

Interesting how you whine about "apartheid" when the Palestinians have explicitly stated that their goal is to establish an Islamic Caliphate of Palestine governed by barbaric apartheid shariah laws. It's right there in the Hamas Charter, perhaps you delusional morons should read it.

Israel isn't Apartheid in the South-African sense... It's actually a lot worse than that.... When did South Africans have a buffer zone wall with armed guards shooting at Blacks in South Africa?

Well, Israel has just that at the border of Gaza... a buffer zone wall, with armed guards trained to shoot at trespassers.

Apartheid also didn't involve war, which ended up blowing up Hospitals, Schools, and Power-plants.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.
.

I'm not necessarily anti-Zionist, as much as I'm anti-Zionist crimes....Or that I support the Palestinian right to a real nation.

I actually think Israel was great for dumping off the Jewish menace... Out from Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and Russia etc

 

[rylah]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.
.

I'm not necessarily anti-Zionist, as much as I'm anti-Zionist crimes....Or that I support the Palestinian right to a real nation.

I actually think Israel was great for dumping off the Jewish menace... Out from Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and Russia etc

Don't worry, in less than 300 years there will be no Jew or Israeli outside of Zion.
And then...

 

[Indeependent]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.
.

I'm not necessarily anti-Zionist, as much as I'm anti-Zionist crimes....Or that I support the Palestinian right to a real nation.

I actually think Israel was great for dumping off the Jewish menace... Out from Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and Russia etc

Don't worry, in less than 300 years there will be no Jew or Israeli outside of Zion.
But then...

From your post to God's ears.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.
.

I'm not necessarily anti-Zionist, as much as I'm anti-Zionist crimes....Or that I support the Palestinian right to a real nation.

I actually think Israel was great for dumping off the Jewish menace... Out from Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and Russia etc

Don't worry, in less than 300 years there will be no Jew or Israeli outside of Zion.
But then...

Are you saying American Jews will disappear, all 6 million of them?

On noes, not another Holocaust.

 

[Indeependent]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.
.

I'm not necessarily anti-Zionist, as much as I'm anti-Zionist crimes....Or that I support the Palestinian right to a real nation.

I actually think Israel was great for dumping off the Jewish menace... Out from Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and Russia etc

Don't worry, in less than 300 years there will be no Jew or Israeli outside of Zion.
But then...

Are you saying American Jews will disappear, all 6 million of them?

On noes, not another Holocaust.

The end of the 6,000 year cycle is well within 275 years.

 

[rylah]

When was the nation of Palestine founded? What was it's capital? Who were some of it's leaders before Arafat?

Well, I don't know.... Some could also make an argument that your Irish wouldn't have a right to their nation, because they were long without a nation of their own.

I believe him more than today's UN agenda of carving up Israel.
.

I'm not necessarily anti-Zionist, as much as I'm anti-Zionist crimes....Or that I support the Palestinian right to a real nation.

I actually think Israel was great for dumping off the Jewish menace... Out from Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and Russia etc

Don't worry, in less than 300 years there will be no Jew or Israeli outside of Zion.
But then...

Are you saying American Jews will disappear, all 6 million of them?

On noes, not another Holocaust.

Doesn't have to be, depends solely on us.
עוֹשֶׂה שָׁלוֹם בִּמְרוֹמָיו, הוּא בְרַחֲמָיו יַעֲשֶׂה שָׁלוֹם עָלֵינוּ, וְעַל כָּל עַמּוֹ יִשְׂרָאֵל, וְאִמְרוּ אָמֵן. בָּרְכוּ אֶת ה' הַמְבֹרָךְ: בָּרוּךְ ה' הַמְבֹרָךְ לְעוֹלָם וָעֶד

 

[louie888]

Bullshit, try diocide ...

Assuming you mean "deicide" (meaning the murder of a god), you can't possibly continue to hold up the fiction that you are Jewish. Jews would not use that term. Except possibly in mockery.

I'm pointing out the Christian opinion which was held for centuries. Jew hatred was not from jealousy as put forth by that moron roudy.