Bad News for NFL: Most Americans Oppose the Political Kneeling 'Protests'

[harmonica]

Well, let's see:

1) Most middle class people work their asses off to become middle class and improve their lives. They probably know, much better than you, that the 'real' world exists. THey deal with it every single day.

The world that is NOT 'real' is the world where someone owes another person a living for doing nothing but whining.
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2) These folks almost certainly have much richer lives than you do. After all, they were hard working enough and intelligent enough to work their way into the middle class. So they have no need to "hide the pain of their failure of a life..."

The REAL failures are those who never stop whining and complaining and demanding more free stuff. They want everything for nothing and don't know that we all have to work for the things we want.
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3) Black people sure as hell do NOT have to spend their time "pounding into each other". You talk as if they are slaves, instead of millionaires playing a child's game because they CHOSE to do so.

Blacks DON'T have to play football. They could get a real job. But that will never happen...

The funny thing here is that you're bring me into this. You don't know me for shit, so don't make comments on things you have NO FUCKING CLUE ABOUT.

Maybe you think they have no need to "hide the pain of failure of a life", but the reality is THEY DO.

There are plenty of ways people hide from the world, religion, alcohol, drugs, TV, entertainment, emotional politics, guns, pets and other such things. Obama made such a comment about guns, and it angered people, but it probably angered them because he was right, and they didn't want to be reminded of it.

You have people who tell you "I don't go on facebook to see this kind of shit" like politics. And they don't watch football to see the real world either. It's escapism, it's to get away from reality.

Now, their "failure of a life" is actually probably not that much of a failure, like you said, they're middle class and they're doing okay. That's not the point, the point is that people feel they're failing because they're not doing as well as their parents did, they have bills stacking up all over the place, they're doing enough to get by butBe reali nothing more.

You say real failures are the ones demanding free shit. Well, actually it would seem that companies like Google, and many others who get millions of free shit, mostly money, are the successful ones. But like I said, this isn't about judging people on failure or not, this is about self judgment on your own life.

Yes, blacks could go out there and get a "real job". However people dream of doing what they like, and they dream of earning loads of money from doing it. However the problem here is that you get a lot of black people who are born into poverty, they grow up surrounded by a million problems and they don't get a good education, and they don't get the support they need as kids. Then they're expected to do well for themselves in life. Being realistic you'd know that they'd have to fight and fight and fight just to get to the lower middle class. And a lot of people don't have that fight within them.

There is a reason why the US has far more problems that other first world countries. It's the attitude of those, like you, who think that there aren't any problems, and if there aren't any problems then they don't need to be fixed.

if the US is so bad why do MILLIONS want to come over here??

Often people's idea of what the US is, and what it really is, are two different things. Although many of the people who do want to go to the US to live, often live in countries that aren't first world countries, or they just want to be actors. A lot of people are dazzled by the money. But the US is losing ground and one day it'll be China they'll be going to. Human Rights? No, they won't care, just as long as they can try and make it rich.

Africa is a shit hole--worst in poverty, literacy, starvation, etc
have you ever been to countries and traveled? I've been to South America twice.....in the military--not as tourist and we traveled a lot--to places tourists don't go.....some of the areas are shit holes.....very poor
..and then you have the freedom...some of these Middle Eastern countries have nice things, but the MSM was/is not free to publish what they want.....women kept down....etc

Yes, I've been to Africa and I've been to South America.

I'm not comparing the US to Swaziland here. I'm comparing the US to other first world countries, and to China. China is improving massively. It has a govt that is getting things in place for the country to explode economically. Train lines, highways etc are opening up all the time and in 20, 30, 40 years time China will be pounding on the US. The US is falling behind in certain areas, has a govt incapable of doing what is best for the country, and this, in time, will tell a lot.

This is about the future. You can't or won't see it, but I see it. Will people still want to go to the US in 40 years time?

all great nations have fallen from number 1.....that doesn't mean they will turn into a shithole like Africa
for starters, we need to stop this MASSIVE illegal and legal immigration

 

[frigidweirdo]

The funny thing here is that you're bring me into this. You don't know me for shit, so don't make comments on things you have NO FUCKING CLUE ABOUT.

Maybe you think they have no need to "hide the pain of failure of a life", but the reality is THEY DO.

There are plenty of ways people hide from the world, religion, alcohol, drugs, TV, entertainment, emotional politics, guns, pets and other such things. Obama made such a comment about guns, and it angered people, but it probably angered them because he was right, and they didn't want to be reminded of it.

You have people who tell you "I don't go on facebook to see this kind of shit" like politics. And they don't watch football to see the real world either. It's escapism, it's to get away from reality.

Now, their "failure of a life" is actually probably not that much of a failure, like you said, they're middle class and they're doing okay. That's not the point, the point is that people feel they're failing because they're not doing as well as their parents did, they have bills stacking up all over the place, they're doing enough to get by butBe reali nothing more.

You say real failures are the ones demanding free shit. Well, actually it would seem that companies like Google, and many others who get millions of free shit, mostly money, are the successful ones. But like I said, this isn't about judging people on failure or not, this is about self judgment on your own life.

Yes, blacks could go out there and get a "real job". However people dream of doing what they like, and they dream of earning loads of money from doing it. However the problem here is that you get a lot of black people who are born into poverty, they grow up surrounded by a million problems and they don't get a good education, and they don't get the support they need as kids. Then they're expected to do well for themselves in life. Being realistic you'd know that they'd have to fight and fight and fight just to get to the lower middle class. And a lot of people don't have that fight within them.

There is a reason why the US has far more problems that other first world countries. It's the attitude of those, like you, who think that there aren't any problems, and if there aren't any problems then they don't need to be fixed.

if the US is so bad why do MILLIONS want to come over here??

Often people's idea of what the US is, and what it really is, are two different things. Although many of the people who do want to go to the US to live, often live in countries that aren't first world countries, or they just want to be actors. A lot of people are dazzled by the money. But the US is losing ground and one day it'll be China they'll be going to. Human Rights? No, they won't care, just as long as they can try and make it rich.

Africa is a shit hole--worst in poverty, literacy, starvation, etc
have you ever been to countries and traveled? I've been to South America twice.....in the military--not as tourist and we traveled a lot--to places tourists don't go.....some of the areas are shit holes.....very poor
..and then you have the freedom...some of these Middle Eastern countries have nice things, but the MSM was/is not free to publish what they want.....women kept down....etc

Yes, I've been to Africa and I've been to South America.

I'm not comparing the US to Swaziland here. I'm comparing the US to other first world countries, and to China. China is improving massively. It has a govt that is getting things in place for the country to explode economically. Train lines, highways etc are opening up all the time and in 20, 30, 40 years time China will be pounding on the US. The US is falling behind in certain areas, has a govt incapable of doing what is best for the country, and this, in time, will tell a lot.

This is about the future. You can't or won't see it, but I see it. Will people still want to go to the US in 40 years time?

all great nations have fallen from number 1.....that doesn't mean they will turn into a shithole like Africa
for starters, we need to stop this MASSIVE illegal and legal immigration

I didn't talk about the US turning into Africa. However yes, history repeats itself and the US is making the same mistakes as every other top nation.

 

[harmonica]

if the US is so bad why do MILLIONS want to come over here??

Often people's idea of what the US is, and what it really is, are two different things. Although many of the people who do want to go to the US to live, often live in countries that aren't first world countries, or they just want to be actors. A lot of people are dazzled by the money. But the US is losing ground and one day it'll be China they'll be going to. Human Rights? No, they won't care, just as long as they can try and make it rich.

Africa is a shit hole--worst in poverty, literacy, starvation, etc
have you ever been to countries and traveled? I've been to South America twice.....in the military--not as tourist and we traveled a lot--to places tourists don't go.....some of the areas are shit holes.....very poor
..and then you have the freedom...some of these Middle Eastern countries have nice things, but the MSM was/is not free to publish what they want.....women kept down....etc

Yes, I've been to Africa and I've been to South America.

I'm not comparing the US to Swaziland here. I'm comparing the US to other first world countries, and to China. China is improving massively. It has a govt that is getting things in place for the country to explode economically. Train lines, highways etc are opening up all the time and in 20, 30, 40 years time China will be pounding on the US. The US is falling behind in certain areas, has a govt incapable of doing what is best for the country, and this, in time, will tell a lot.

This is about the future. You can't or won't see it, but I see it. Will people still want to go to the US in 40 years time?

all great nations have fallen from number 1.....that doesn't mean they will turn into a shithole like Africa
for starters, we need to stop this MASSIVE illegal and legal immigration

I didn't talk about the US turning into Africa. However yes, history repeats itself and the US is making the same mistakes as every other top nation.

maybe this is for the History section--is it really a matter of mistakes, or just human nature/human politics/etc?
very complicated as there are many different aspects--global market now, communication, the Great England was a tiny island with little resources vs America with many resources/much land.....Rome vs the US./etc

 

[frigidweirdo]

Often people's idea of what the US is, and what it really is, are two different things. Although many of the people who do want to go to the US to live, often live in countries that aren't first world countries, or they just want to be actors. A lot of people are dazzled by the money. But the US is losing ground and one day it'll be China they'll be going to. Human Rights? No, they won't care, just as long as they can try and make it rich.

Africa is a shit hole--worst in poverty, literacy, starvation, etc
have you ever been to countries and traveled? I've been to South America twice.....in the military--not as tourist and we traveled a lot--to places tourists don't go.....some of the areas are shit holes.....very poor
..and then you have the freedom...some of these Middle Eastern countries have nice things, but the MSM was/is not free to publish what they want.....women kept down....etc

Yes, I've been to Africa and I've been to South America.

I'm not comparing the US to Swaziland here. I'm comparing the US to other first world countries, and to China. China is improving massively. It has a govt that is getting things in place for the country to explode economically. Train lines, highways etc are opening up all the time and in 20, 30, 40 years time China will be pounding on the US. The US is falling behind in certain areas, has a govt incapable of doing what is best for the country, and this, in time, will tell a lot.

This is about the future. You can't or won't see it, but I see it. Will people still want to go to the US in 40 years time?

all great nations have fallen from number 1.....that doesn't mean they will turn into a shithole like Africa
for starters, we need to stop this MASSIVE illegal and legal immigration

I didn't talk about the US turning into Africa. However yes, history repeats itself and the US is making the same mistakes as every other top nation.

maybe this is for the History section--is it really a matter of mistakes, or just human nature/human politics/etc?
very complicated as there are many different aspects--global market now, communication, the Great England was a tiny island with little resources vs America with many resources/much land.....Rome vs the US./etc

I'd say the US is very much akin to the fall of Rome. I've actually done it a few times, gone and compared the two, and there are many similarities.

Arrogance seems to be one of the major factors. The American people feel like they don't need to have a leader who will lead well in order to keep the country on course, they feel like they can just elect anyone, anyone to Congress, anyone to the White House and it won't matter. But of course it matters greatly.