Background checks and increase age to own a gun.

[Brain357]

[Q

You work so hard to make sure killers are well armed. Wouldn’t want to be you trying to get into heaven one day...

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

I disagree.

Many home defense situations can and do involve a home resident hiding in a defensive position in the dark defending against multiple threats. Being forced to find and reload additional magazines IN THE DARK is a substantial threat to safety.

Furthermore, large capacity magazines are in common use.

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You have some imagination.

Except, that is reality.

What would experts say?

8 Experts Pick Their Home Defense Weapon of Choice - Ballistic Magazine

Reality for the gun industry. They have made a bunch of paranoid cowards. I am pretty old and don't know anyone who has ever been home invaded. The invaded are typically involved in criminal behavior, are you a criminal?

 

[Brain357]

[Q

You work so hard to make sure killers are well armed. Wouldn’t want to be you trying to get into heaven one day...

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

 

[captkaos]

Trump went on air this morning promoting background checks, increasing the age of gun ownership, and getting rid of the policy that expunges the records of minors when they turn 18.

Thoughts?

Trump: Congress discussing 'meaningful' gun background checks, NRA will have input

1) Shrug

2) Choose a single age of majority, for everything. You're either legally an adult, or you're not.

3) I have no problem with that.

We should expunge the records of anyone convicted of a non violent crime after 5 yrs with no criminal arrests also then! Adults make dumb decisions too! Why should their rights be removed for eternity?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Trump went on air this morning promoting background checks, increasing the age to purchase a gun, and getting rid of the policy that expunges the records of minors when they turn 18.

Thoughts?

Trump: Congress discussing 'meaningful' gun background checks, NRA will have input

Trump and the NRA are the biggest threat to my cherished gun rights.

And not the gun-grabbing commies?

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[bigrebnc1775]

[Q

You work so hard to make sure killers are well armed. Wouldn’t want to be you trying to get into heaven one day...

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

I don't give a **** about what world you live on
What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

 

[2aguy]

[Q

You work so hard to make sure killers are well armed. Wouldn’t want to be you trying to get into heaven one day...

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

You mean except for their governments mass murdering them......12 million people murdered in Europe.....by their governments who handed them over to the national socialists.....25 million in Russia, 70 million in china.....land of gun control, Mexico....30,000 actual murders a year....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

lol here's another one lol
Freedom-15 100% AR-15 Lower Mold Kit, ARCast Resin & Pre-Bent Braces

SHUT UP!!! THEY'RE GONNA START BITCHING ABOUT THAT TOO!!!

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cases and case are out there and there are tons more lol

Let these buffoons live in their fantasy land. Don't educate them.

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And don't forget the CNC gunsmithing Lathes we have access to those me and my buddies can make 85% of our AR's and the rest of the parts we buy.

And I'd much rather a mass killer has to make his gun rather than easily buy one.

fruit loop how long do you suppose it takes to make a ar 15?

 

[Brain357]

[Q

You work so hard to make sure killers are well armed. Wouldn’t want to be you trying to get into heaven one day...

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

I don't give a **** about what world you live on
What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I'm not in the defense industry trying to sell you more guns you don't need. What a sucker you are.

 

[Brain357]

SHUT UP!!! THEY'RE GONNA START BITCHING ABOUT THAT TOO!!!

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cases and case are out there and there are tons more lol

Let these buffoons live in their fantasy land. Don't educate them.

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And don't forget the CNC gunsmithing Lathes we have access to those me and my buddies can make 85% of our AR's and the rest of the parts we buy.

And I'd much rather a mass killer has to make his gun rather than easily buy one.

fruit loop how long do you suppose it takes to make a ar 15?

For someone with no CNC and no experience? A lot longer than going out and buying one.

 

[Brain357]

[Q

You work so hard to make sure killers are well armed. Wouldn’t want to be you trying to get into heaven one day...

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

You mean except for their governments mass murdering them......12 million people murdered in Europe.....by their governments who handed them over to the national socialists.....25 million in Russia, 70 million in china.....land of gun control, Mexico....30,000 actual murders a year....

And now he goes full crazy! Way to go!

 

[Flash]

And yet as more people own and carry guns with little to no training......

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Funny how you start your numbers right when we got background checks and gun control. Yes those were really effective at lowering crime, thanks for sharing.

Funny how you can't explain how background checks stop criminals who use straw buyers....who can pass any background check, or steal their guns.

You can't explain, how criminals are stopped...when they are using illegal guns despite your background checks......

Funny. So should we abolish speed limits and motor vehicle laws?

Wow...that stupid debate point.

The way you stop crime is by punishing the ones who actually commit the crime..... in Chicago, St. Louis, D.C.....all of the democrat murder capitols....... they keep letting repeat gun offenders out on bond, and out of prison in under 3 years.....that is how you allow criminals to keep using guns for crime.

The way you actually stop it...if you really want to stop it...... is life in prison without parole for any real crime committed with a gun......and a 15-30 year sentence if you are a criminal caught with an illegal gun..

That will dry up illegal gun crime over night as soon as you sign that into law.....

The democrats keep letting the gun felons out of jail on bond, and out of prison on short sentences...today in Chicago the Police Superintendant called out the States Attorney for letting felons with guns...caught again and again, out on bond.....

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world! Clearly that isn't working.

If the Negroes would stop committing so many crimes then there wouldn't be so many people in jail.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

I don't give a **** about what world you live on
What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I'm not in the defense industry trying to sell you more guns you don't need. What a sucker you are.

You're suggesting that they are wrong? On what basis?

.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

You mean except for their governments mass murdering them......12 million people murdered in Europe.....by their governments who handed them over to the national socialists.....25 million in Russia, 70 million in china.....land of gun control, Mexico....30,000 actual murders a year....

And now he goes full crazy! Way to go!

How crazy of him to state FACTS.

.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

cases and case are out there and there are tons more lol

Let these buffoons live in their fantasy land. Don't educate them.

.

And don't forget the CNC gunsmithing Lathes we have access to those me and my buddies can make 85% of our AR's and the rest of the parts we buy.

And I'd much rather a mass killer has to make his gun rather than easily buy one.

fruit loop how long do you suppose it takes to make a ar 15?

For someone with no CNC and no experience? A lot longer than going out and buying one.

What makes you think we don't have experience making our rifles with a CNC machine? Do you even know what a CNC machine is and how much they cost?

 

[Brain357]

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

I don't give a **** about what world you live on
What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I'm not in the defense industry trying to sell you more guns you don't need. What a sucker you are.

You're suggesting that they are wrong? On what basis?

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Crimes statistics? And get this. I go out every day without a gun and have lived to a pretty old age. Same for most everyone I know. And believe it or not, haven't had a single home invasion. It's crazy. That's what happens when you aren't involved in illegal activities. Can I assume you are involved?

 

[Brain357]

Let these buffoons live in their fantasy land. Don't educate them.

.

And don't forget the CNC gunsmithing Lathes we have access to those me and my buddies can make 85% of our AR's and the rest of the parts we buy.

And I'd much rather a mass killer has to make his gun rather than easily buy one.

fruit loop how long do you suppose it takes to make a ar 15?

For someone with no CNC and no experience? A lot longer than going out and buying one.

What makes you think we don't have experience making our rifles with a CNC machine? Do you even know what a CNC machine is and how much they cost?

I'm suggesting most our mass killers don't. Are you suggesting you would illegally manufacture and sell rifles to mass killers?

 

[Brain357]

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

You mean except for their governments mass murdering them......12 million people murdered in Europe.....by their governments who handed them over to the national socialists.....25 million in Russia, 70 million in china.....land of gun control, Mexico....30,000 actual murders a year....

And now he goes full crazy! Way to go!

How crazy of him to state FACTS.

.

Mostly ancient history. We lose 40K to guns each year to guns, now that is the reality.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Where you are confused is making the assumption that taking firearms away from law abiding gun owners would cut down on gun crime by the criminal element that commit the great majority of gun crimes in this country.

Of course your confusion is understandable. You Liberals are just as confused about gun crime as you are confused about Economics, Climate Science, History, the Constitution, Ethics and Biology.

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. A large capacity magazine isn’t needed for defense.

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

I don't give a **** about what world you live on
What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I'm not in the defense industry trying to sell you more guns you don't need. What a sucker you are.

Well then if you have no formal training and work experience you shouldn't be saying what someone can and cannot have.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

I don't give a **** about what world you live on
What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I'm not in the defense industry trying to sell you more guns you don't need. What a sucker you are.

You're suggesting that they are wrong? On what basis?

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Crimes statistics? And get this. I go out every day without a gun and have lived to a pretty old age. Same for most everyone I know. And believe it or not, haven't had a single home invasion. It's crazy. That's what happens when you aren't involved in illegal activities. Can I assume you are involved?

I'm sure that's what most people say, until they are in a life-and-death situation.

Feel free to keep living like you do. Quit trying to place your standard of living on the rest of us who are not so naive.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What is your qualitative experience on the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

I live in the real world. Countries with almost no guns are safer, sorry snowflake. We have the most guns and the most criminals locked up and our homicide rates is still 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. I realize you are scared, but you will be safer.

You mean except for their governments mass murdering them......12 million people murdered in Europe.....by their governments who handed them over to the national socialists.....25 million in Russia, 70 million in china.....land of gun control, Mexico....30,000 actual murders a year....

And now he goes full crazy! Way to go!

How crazy of him to state FACTS.

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Mostly ancient history. We lose 40K to guns each year to guns, now that is the reality.

Are you suggesting that history will NOT repeat itself?

Why do we bother with an unwise person like yourself?

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