Bachmann signs The Family Lead pledge

[Quantum Windbag]

Oh I get it now.....the way to help poor black children out of deplorable family conditions is not to help them

Suck it up kid

Suuuuure. That's why Democrats fought the emancipation of slaves and civil rights.

You're going nowhere and you don't even know that you are.

Thats strange

Democrats in the North supported abolition and Civil Rights
While Republicans in the South opposed both abolition and Civil Rights

What a simplistic worldview. Can you explain why you are arguing that Democrats were the real liberals, while other people in this thread argue that those same Democrats were the real conservatives? Are you talking about different Democrats?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The Bible do not lie, is the word of God. This world should give rise to the kingdom of Christ, the “cleaning” is painful, but Jesus will restore everything. Who want to go with Him? Repent and join to Christ that you will have living with the eternal God, righteous and loving, the Lord of all the law of life, of love and peace, the true Light.

Swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, -they break out; and blood toucheth blood.

For this shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowl of the heavens, yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away." (Hosea, 4:1-3)

Ash is rich with nutrients and helps in better growth of the forest. To provide ash to the forest, rotten and fallen woods and some good trees have to be burned. There cannot be ash without a fire and fire does not distinguish between anything and anybody.

Would you please stop wasting electricity posting tripe? You are embarrassing yourself, and everyone that calls themselves a Christian.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We've talked about how black kids had it better back in slave times (according to Bachmann).

No, you've lied to slander political opponents. Bachmann never said that or anything like it.

 

[Trajan]

I wonder if he knows masturbation promotes prostate health, and good sperm?

wow, Lodecea?

 

[Uncensored2008]

What about the kids that are in a living hell because of abuse of one or both parents? I lived that nightmare from age 5-8, and was glad as all get out when my mother divorced Grissom, because being beaten with a bullwhip just ain't no fun.

That little slice of my life was in the late 60's, early 70's.

Not that I question your story, but 5 year olds beaten with a bullwhip are generally referred to as a corpse.

 

[bodecea]

What about the kids that are in a living hell because of abuse of one or both parents? I lived that nightmare from age 5-8, and was glad as all get out when my mother divorced Grissom, because being beaten with a bullwhip just ain't no fun.

That little slice of my life was in the late 60's, early 70's.

Kids aren't necessarily better off with two parents, especially if one of them is an abuser.

Very true, ABS. But, in general and given that both parents are somewhat sane, the kids are better off with both of them around.

I don't think the 'pro-family' types would disagree with you, either.

Now you're the one being patient.

I get so sick of the leftist talking points intended to divert from any discussion of a real issue.

If I say I favor policies that encourage small business to grow, expand, and hire people, they say: you favor corporate welfare.

If I say I am pro life, they say you want to invade a woman's womb or enslave women.

If I say I prefer smaller, efficient, effective government with the federal government doing what it was constitutionally charged to do, they say I want to impoverish old people, snatch food from the mouths of school children, and throw welfare recipients out into the street.

If I say parents are better off in a home with a loving mother and father present, they say: kids aren't better off under slavery or with an abusive parent.

It really really REALLY gets old because it is sooooo ignorant and stupid that it makes me want to give up message boarding sometimes. Almost.

Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not? You make it sound like Lefties are the ones who brought up slavery.....

 

[Jarhead]

Santorum, who already signed the same pledge, tried that before the voters of Pennsylvania told him what they thought of him by voting him out. He wanted a law passed banning masturbation. Just think of the jobs that would provide. All those bedroom and bathroom police looking in your windows.

just the bedroom and the bathroom?
Boy...you havent lived like I have lived!

Well that would mean a sex cop for every room and car.

Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachmann are all against oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, divorce, fertility clinics etc. etc. Just do some googling and you will see I am telling the truth.

I am well aware of their personal ideologies.
I am also well aware of the fact that my religion does not believe in hell but many others do.
I am well aware that many conservatives are against gay marriage, yet I am a conservative who is for gay marriage.
I am well aware of many conservatives against abortion whereas I am one who believes in the right to choose.

But I am also well aware that just becuase a candidate believes something different than I do does not mean that candidate is not a good choice overall as we all know that a President may have a belief system, but only he or she can sign or veto a law....but congress...who has their fingers on the pulse of the nation...are the true legislators.

 

[bodecea]

just the bedroom and the bathroom?
Boy...you havent lived like I have lived!

Well that would mean a sex cop for every room and car.

Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachmann are all against oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, divorce, fertility clinics etc. etc. Just do some googling and you will see I am telling the truth.

I am well aware of their personal ideologies.
I am also well aware of the fact that my religion does not believe in hell but many others do.
I am well aware that many conservatives are against gay marriage, yet I am a conservative who is for gay marriage.I am well aware of many conservatives against abortion whereas I am one who believes in the right to choose.

But I am also well aware that just becuase a candidate believes something different than I do does not mean that candidate is not a good choice overall as we all know that a President may have a belief system, but only he or she can sign or veto a law....but congress...who has their fingers on the pulse of the nation...are the true legislators.

 

[rightwinger]

Suuuuure. That's why Democrats fought the emancipation of slaves and civil rights.

You're going nowhere and you don't even know that you are.

Thats strange

Democrats in the North supported abolition and Civil Rights
While Republicans in the South opposed both abolition and Civil Rights

What a simplistic worldview. Can you explain why you are arguing that Democrats were the real liberals, while other people in this thread argue that those same Democrats were the real conservatives? Are you talking about different Democrats?

You are taking a North/South political position and converting it to a Democrat/Republican political position

Southern Republicans opposed integration and Civil Rights. You could not get elected dog catcher in the South if you supported Civil Rights

 

[Uncensored2008]

Santorum, who already signed the same pledge, tried that before the voters of Pennsylvania told him what they thought of him by voting him out. He wanted a law passed banning masturbation. Just think of the jobs that would provide. All those bedroom and bathroom police looking in your windows.

wtf

The hate filled leftists just make shit up. The more outrageous the lie, the more praise they get at Huffingpo.

 

[Trajan]

Very true, ABS. But, in general and given that both parents are somewhat sane, the kids are better off with both of them around.

I don't think the 'pro-family' types would disagree with you, either.

Now you're the one being patient.

I get so sick of the leftist talking points intended to divert from any discussion of a real issue.

If I say I favor policies that encourage small business to grow, expand, and hire people, they say: you favor corporate welfare.

If I say I am pro life, they say you want to invade a woman's womb or enslave women.

If I say I prefer smaller, efficient, effective government with the federal government doing what it was constitutionally charged to do, they say I want to impoverish old people, snatch food from the mouths of school children, and throw welfare recipients out into the street.

If I say parents are better off in a home with a loving mother and father present, they say: kids aren't better off under slavery or with an abusive parent.

It really really REALLY gets old because it is sooooo ignorant and stupid that it makes me want to give up message boarding sometimes. Almost.

Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not? You make it sound like Lefties are the ones who brought up slavery.....

let me ask you a question, do you reallllly give a shit about this or are you just bored?

 

[Jarhead]

Personally I think it is sad here that some of our friends are so dishonestly characterizing Michelle Bachmann or any who are acknowledging that the conditions of life for so many black children today is deplorable. For some reason they don't wish to discuss that which was after all the point the pledge was making. No, they would rather accuse others of intentions that were not intended, of words that were never said, of motives that don't exist, and they throw in a lot of non sequitur, red herrings, and straw men to boot.

That is sad people. That is sad.

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are

Do you want to know a problem with using rhetoric in the place of facts? There is always somebody on the other side who is just as good, or even better, at doing it.

As an example I offer this off the top of my head.

If there was any sincerity from progressives in actually helping alleviate these deplorable conditions, I might believe they care. The cruel nature of welfare, affirmative action, and the wholesale slaughter of black babies by Planned Parenthood is an embarrassment for Democrats. The further they distance themselves from that genocide the better they are.

See what I mean?

It just shows you how easy it is to spin the intent of ANY quote or action.

And what frustrates me is how many people who claim to be "in the political know" regurgitate the obvious spin when they debate.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachmann are all against oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, divorce, fertility clinics etc. etc. Just do some googling and you will see I am telling the truth.

Sure they are.

And they pull the wings off of kittens...

 

[Si modo]

Now you're the one being patient.

I get so sick of the leftist talking points intended to divert from any discussion of a real issue.

If I say I favor policies that encourage small business to grow, expand, and hire people, they say: you favor corporate welfare.

If I say I am pro life, they say you want to invade a woman's womb or enslave women.

If I say I prefer smaller, efficient, effective government with the federal government doing what it was constitutionally charged to do, they say I want to impoverish old people, snatch food from the mouths of school children, and throw welfare recipients out into the street.

If I say parents are better off in a home with a loving mother and father present, they say: kids aren't better off under slavery or with an abusive parent.

It really really REALLY gets old because it is sooooo ignorant and stupid that it makes me want to give up message boarding sometimes. Almost.

Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not? You make it sound like Lefties are the ones who brought up slavery.....

let me ask you a question, do you reallllly give a shit about this or are you just bored?

Actually, she is not known for being too bright.

And she is not known for reading a thread before posting in it. As I said, not too bright.

 

[Jarhead]

Well that would mean a sex cop for every room and car.

Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachmann are all against oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, divorce, fertility clinics etc. etc. Just do some googling and you will see I am telling the truth.

I am well aware of their personal ideologies.
I am also well aware of the fact that my religion does not believe in hell but many others do.
I am well aware that many conservatives are against gay marriage, yet I am a conservative who is for gay marriage.I am well aware of many conservatives against abortion whereas I am one who believes in the right to choose.

But I am also well aware that just becuase a candidate believes something different than I do does not mean that candidate is not a good choice overall as we all know that a President may have a belief system, but only he or she can sign or veto a law....but congress...who has their fingers on the pulse of the nation...are the true legislators.

thanks for the thumbs up...but I would have much preferred you responded to the gist of the post.

There is not a single politician...OR PERSON...that I agree with 100%.

The fact that we are picking on certtain bits of ideologies in an attempt to define that person based on that single item is bs...

Sure...Bachmann is against gay marriage....sure, she signed something stupid...likely under pressure from her base......it does not define her as a candidate....just as "57 states" and "spread the wealth" didnt define Obama as a candidate.

 

[Jarhead]

Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachmann are all against oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, divorce, fertility clinics etc. etc. Just do some googling and you will see I am telling the truth.

Sure they are.

And they pull the wings off of kittens...

Actually, based on their religious beliefs, they likely are against those things.
So what.
Me? I love to masturbate.....oral sex is one of my favorites...cant get the wife to do the anal thing (working on it)...and I have no issue with fertility clinics.

But I dont have to worry about it.....congress is the law body....not the president....and congress has plenty of diversity to ensure ones ideology doesnt rule the land.

 

[bodecea]

Now you're the one being patient.

I get so sick of the leftist talking points intended to divert from any discussion of a real issue.

If I say I favor policies that encourage small business to grow, expand, and hire people, they say: you favor corporate welfare.

If I say I am pro life, they say you want to invade a woman's womb or enslave women.

If I say I prefer smaller, efficient, effective government with the federal government doing what it was constitutionally charged to do, they say I want to impoverish old people, snatch food from the mouths of school children, and throw welfare recipients out into the street.

If I say parents are better off in a home with a loving mother and father present, they say: kids aren't better off under slavery or with an abusive parent.

It really really REALLY gets old because it is sooooo ignorant and stupid that it makes me want to give up message boarding sometimes. Almost.

Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not? You make it sound like Lefties are the ones who brought up slavery.....

let me ask you a question, do you reallllly give a shit about this or are you just bored?

Let me ask again and see if I get an answer....Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not?

 

[Si modo]

Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not? You make it sound like Lefties are the ones who brought up slavery.....

let me ask you a question, do you reallllly give a shit about this or are you just bored?

Let me ask again and see if I get an answer....Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not?

See, you really are a moron.

 

[Luissa]

I wonder if he knows masturbation promotes prostate health, and good sperm?

wow, Lodecea?

huh?

 

[Zona]

Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not? You make it sound like Lefties are the ones who brought up slavery.....

let me ask you a question, do you reallllly give a shit about this or are you just bored?

Let me ask again and see if I get an answer....Did the pledge mention kids under slavery or not?

Good luck getting an answer.