Bachmann signs The Family Lead pledge

[Uncensored2008]

black children in the 1860's in the US had it better than black children now in the US

Why do you and the rest of the fascist party think this? Does Obama agree? Is your agenda to re-institute slavery?

 

[grasslands]

200 million Americans involved in pornogarphy is an impeachable offense for Obama.

 

[rightwinger]

omg, the "cruel nature of the document" lol
whens the last time you been to a housing project? That is you liberals IDEA of "helping people" Instead of encouraging people to HELP THEMSELVES you liberals make them poor victims who are unable to do anything. you do get a voter bloc that way, don't ya.

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates

you idiot liberal. WE DON'T NEED government legislation to HELP black children emerge from anything. They should be encouraged to DO IT ON THIER own like the MAJORITY of the people do everyday..But you liberals don't BELIEVE people can live life without the NANNY GUBERMENT.

Oh I get it now.....the way to help poor black children out of deplorable family conditions is not to help them

Suck it up kid

 

[Uncensored2008]

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy.

The hell you would.

You are a partisan hack. You'll lie, cheat, steal, slander, defame and libel any enemy of the party, regardless of the facts. You seek to smear the opposition in hopes of promoting your party. You don't give a flying **** about truth, justice or equality. You seek only to slander.

Seriously dude.

 

[Stephanie]

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates

you idiot liberal. WE DON'T NEED government legislation to HELP black children emerge from anything. They should be encouraged to DO IT ON THIER own like the MAJORITY of the people do everyday..But you liberals don't BELIEVE people can live life without the NANNY GUBERMENT.

Oh I get it now.....the way to help poor black children out of deplorable family conditions is not to help them

Suck it up kid

again, whens the last time you've been to housing project? THAT is the deplorable conditions you bleeding heart idiots gave to children. And you sit back and call that HELPING.

 

[Si modo]

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates

you idiot liberal. WE DON'T NEED government legislation to HELP black children emerge from anything. They should be encouraged to DO IT ON THIER own like the MAJORITY of the people do everyday..But you liberals don't BELIEVE people can live life without the NANNY GUBERMENT.

Oh I get it now.....the way to help poor black children out of deplorable family conditions is not to help them

Suck it up kid

Suuuuure. That's why Democrats fought the emancipation of slaves and civil rights.

You're going nowhere and you don't even know that you are.

 

[Foxfyre]

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are

omg, the "cruel nature of the document" lol
whens the last time you been to a housing project? That is you liberals IDEA of "helping people" Instead of encouraging people to HELP THEMSELVES you liberals make them poor victims who are unable to do anything. you do get a voter bloc that way, don't ya.

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates

Junior legislators don't get to initiate much legislation, and legislators of the minority party usually don't get to initiate any. The Republicans have been in power for only six months and have devoted almost all their efforts to deficit reduction and getting the economy back on track.

But in her time in the House, Michelle has:
- voted for HR 2021, a jobs and energy bill.
- Voted for the GOP 2010 budget plan which would have helped all families but the Democrats voted down.
- Voted to repeal Obamacare which the Democratically controlled Senate voted down.
- Voted for every single bill geared to provide tax and regulation relief for businesses, voted for every single bill that would cut spending including reduction of House members salaries and expense accounts.

The Conservative way is not to retain a voter base by making people easier in poverty and almost forcing them to stay there. The Conservative way is to help and encourage people to reach their full potential by supporting and encouraging the traditional family and providing an economy that provides oppotunity for people to get ahead on their own initiative. Conservatives don't insult and demean people by suggesting they are too victimized, damaged, and incapable of helping themselves and Big Government will magnanimously take care of them. At a subsistance level of course. All they have to do is vote Big Government.

 

[rightwinger]

you idiot liberal. WE DON'T NEED government legislation to HELP black children emerge from anything. They should be encouraged to DO IT ON THIER own like the MAJORITY of the people do everyday..But you liberals don't BELIEVE people can live life without the NANNY GUBERMENT.

Oh I get it now.....the way to help poor black children out of deplorable family conditions is not to help them

Suck it up kid

Suuuuure. That's why Democrats fought the emancipation of slaves and civil rights.

You're going nowhere and you don't even know that you are.

Thats strange

Democrats in the North supported abolition and Civil Rights
While Republicans in the South opposed both abolition and Civil Rights

 

[grasslands]

The Bible do not lie, is the word of God. This world should give rise to the kingdom of Christ, the “cleaning” is painful, but Jesus will restore everything. Who want to go with Him? Repent and join to Christ that you will have living with the eternal God, righteous and loving, the Lord of all the law of life, of love and peace, the true Light.

Swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, -they break out; and blood toucheth blood.

For this shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowl of the heavens, yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away." (Hosea, 4:1-3)

Ash is rich with nutrients and helps in better growth of the forest. To provide ash to the forest, rotten and fallen woods and some good trees have to be burned. There cannot be ash without a fire and fire does not distinguish between anything and anybody.

 

[Jarhead]

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates

you idiot liberal. WE DON'T NEED government legislation to HELP black children emerge from anything. They should be encouraged to DO IT ON THIER own like the MAJORITY of the people do everyday..But you liberals don't BELIEVE people can live life without the NANNY GUBERMENT.

Oh I get it now.....the way to help poor black children out of deplorable family conditions is not to help them

Suck it up kid

it is not a tough concept to understand.

The best way to help someone is to allow them to help themselves.

As much as you want to say you do, you dont care about them MORE than you care about yourself and your loved ones...which means they will always come second to you....

But to them? They will always come first.

So who is best to help them? Those who see them as FIRST on the list or those he see them as SECOND.

I was a lifeguard here on Long Island many years back. When someone asked me what I would do if presented with the situation where both of my children were drowning, who would I help first...(the right answer is the one who is further away).

However...my answer?

I would teach them both to swim at an early age and likely one would save the other or neither would be drowning to begin with.

Teach a man to fish.......

 

[Si modo]

It's funny. With some, their minds are so programmed that it's like talking to morons.

When this thread develops any intellectual integrity, IF it does, it may be interesting.

 

[Foxfyre]

Oh I get it now.....the way to help poor black children out of deplorable family conditions is not to help them

Suck it up kid

Suuuuure. That's why Democrats fought the emancipation of slaves and civil rights.

You're going nowhere and you don't even know that you are.

Thats strange

Democrats in the North supported abolition and Civil Rights
While Republicans in the South opposed both abolition and Civil Rights

It's bad enough to have to watch you distort and mischaracterize and misrepresent the Pledge and Michelle Bachmann's involvement with that. Must we also endure the rewriting of history to suit your partisan prejudices?

The Republican Party was formed in 1854 and was made up of mostly anti-slavery Whigs and previously anti-slavery Free Soil Democrats. There was almost no GOP presence in the South at the time as that was the bastion of the pro-slavery Democrats. Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, by his election, pretty much ended an alliance between pro-slavery southern democrats and the northern democrats who didn't own slaves but tolerated the concepts. Those northern democrats had to choose between the north and south a year or so later and most chose the north.

If it was not for the Republicans, slavery would not have ended when it did. If it was not for the support of the minority Republicans, segregation would not have ended when it did.

None of that has anything to do with the situation black kids endure today, but we can at least keep the history honest maybe?

 

[Si modo]

Suuuuure. That's why Democrats fought the emancipation of slaves and civil rights.

You're going nowhere and you don't even know that you are.

Thats strange

Democrats in the North supported abolition and Civil Rights
While Republicans in the South opposed both abolition and Civil Rights

It's bad enough to have to watch you distort and mischaracterize and misrepresent the Pledge and Michelle Bachmann's involvement with that. Must we also endure the rewriting of history to suit your partisan prejudices?

The Republican Party was formed in 1854 and was made up of mostly anti-slavery Whigs and previously anti-slavery Free Soil Democrats. There was almost no GOP presence in the South at the time as that was the bastion of the pro-slavery Democrats. Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, by his election, pretty much ended an alliance between pro-slavery southern democrats and the northern democrats who didn't own slaves but tolerated the concepts. Those northern democrats had to choose between the north and south six years later and most chose the north.

If it was not for the Republicans, slavery would not have ended when it did. If it was not for the support of the minority Republicans, segregation would not have ended when it did.

None of that has anything to do with the situation black kids endure today, but we can at least keep the history honest maybe?

You are a far more patient woman than I am.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Thats strange

Democrats in the North supported abolition and Civil Rights

What's strange is you thinking you can get away with whoppers like that.

Democratic Party Platform

Ever the liar you are, RW....

 

[Uncensored2008]

You are a far more patient woman than I am.

Yeah, Fox is a saint. I tend to be a bit more "gruff."

 

[ABikerSailor]

We've talked about how black kids had it better back in slave times (according to Bachmann).

Question........with the degradation of marriage (i.e. 51 percent divorce rate), doesn't that mean that white kids had it better back then as well?

No wonder Newt wouldn't sign it.

 

[Foxfyre]

We've talked about how black kids had it better back in slave times (according to Bachmann).

Question........with the degradation of marriage (i.e. 51 percent divorce rate), doesn't that mean that white kids had it better back then as well?

No wonder Newt wouldn't sign it.

No, people like YOU have talked about how black kids had it better in slave times according to Bachmann.

People like ME have talked about how Bachmann never said that, that was never in the pledge, but some keep saying it anyway because they seem to be so desperate for it to be true.

The issue of white kids has not come up, but the white kids, Asian kids, Hispanic kids, black kids--ALL kids--are absolutely better off with a loving mother and father in the home than in any other circumstance. Which is the point that both Bachmann and Family Leader has been consistent in promoting. And you can try to dispute that til the cows come home, but good luck.

Or you can continue to mischaracterize and misrepresent the statement in the pledge and Bachmann's position on it. Your choice.

 

[Spoonman]

Well thanks, Captain Obvious...I guess you missed the part where Perry slammed the stimulus at every turn. Big hypocrite still took the loot he slammed. Perry used dirty accounting tricks to "balance" his budget on top of taking the $ he panned. Oh, and running a business selling crappy pizza doesn't mean you can run a country.

neither does being a community organizer

or a Senator

so he failed on two accounts lol

 

[Foxfyre]

You are a far more patient woman than I am.

Yeah, Fox is a saint. I tend to be a bit more "gruff."

Well thanks to you both, but I am not as patient as I might sometimes appear. And I'm sure as hell no saint. Capable of anger, snarkiness, impulse to retaliate, feet of clay like any other person.

But I really really do like to keep things real and honest. And I appreciate and admire those who can focus on and debate an issue instead of just flaming somebody with whom they disagree or whom they dislike.

And I have a hard time being patient with those who deliberately mischaracterize and misrepresent other people because they can't attack them any other way.

 

[ABikerSailor]

We've talked about how black kids had it better back in slave times (according to Bachmann).

Question........with the degradation of marriage (i.e. 51 percent divorce rate), doesn't that mean that white kids had it better back then as well?

No wonder Newt wouldn't sign it.

No, people like YOU have talked about how black kids had it better in slave times according to Bachmann.

People like ME have talked about how Bachmann never said that, that was never in the pledge, but some keep saying it anyway because they seem to be so desperate for it to be true.

The issue of white kids has not come up, but the white kids, Asian kids, Hispanic kids, black kids--ALL kids--are absolutely better off with a loving mother and father in the home than in any other circumstance. Which is the point that both Bachmann and Family Leader has been consistent in promoting. And you can try to dispute that til the cows come home, but good luck.

Or you can continue to mischaracterize and misrepresent the statement in the pledge and Bachmann's position on it. Your choice.

What about the kids that are in a living hell because of abuse of one or both parents? I lived that nightmare from age 5-8, and was glad as all get out when my mother divorced Grissom, because being beaten with a bullwhip just ain't no fun.

That little slice of my life was in the late 60's, early 70's.

Kids aren't necessarily better off with two parents, especially if one of them is an abuser.