Bachmann signs The Family Lead pledge


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

CLASSIC!

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They weren't saying that it was because of slavery and you know it. I think you are intentionally twisting what I am saying and trying to make it look like I'm saying something else.

But oh well. If it makes you happy to do that please rave on.

But for the record:

I am not saying that slavery gave a child a better chance to have a mom and dad in the home.
The pledge didn't say that.
Michelle Bachmann didn't say that.
Rick Santorum didn't say that.

And no matter how many times you distort what is being said, it won't change the fact that none of us said that.

Oh really? Then why is slavery brought up then?

Really, do you think people are that stupid?
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The irony.

That people are excusing this comparison of today's black families with slave families.....absolutely.
 
For what it is worth in Post #1135, the first quote attributed to me is mine. The second one looks like mine also but is not.
 
Which is pertinent to the original statement how? Nor is it pertinent that the black child born in 1860 had far less chance of being mugged, knifed, or murdered in the streets than does a child born into the projects in America today and was far less likely to grow up with the mentality that such is the way of life. And no, acknowledging that truth is not any kind of endorsement of slavery any more than was noting that black kids have much less chance of growing up with a mom and dad in the home these days.

Living in a place where you are always in danger of stray bullets or street thugs is bad. Whether you descend from slaves or not.

Living in a loving home with a mom and dad present is the best possible situation for all children whether they descend from slaves or not.

A child born in slavery into a 2 parent household was a child born a slave. Did the specter of being sold to another master, away from parents, or that fact that your mom could be forced to have sex with someone other than your father have an impact on the household?

I would like someone to explain what solid family values can be imparted to a child when they are a piece of property. When their parents are property. When they or their parents could be sold at any time and the law supported that behavior. When they had no recourse with the law if they were even just randomly beaten or killed by their owner?

black children in the 1860's in the US had it better than black children now in the US, as they were not subjected to cybermobbing. and rarely died in plane crashes.
 
Personally I think it is sad here that some of our friends are so dishonestly characterizing Michelle Bachmann or any who are acknowledging that the conditions of life for so many black children today is deplorable. For some reason they don't wish to discuss that which was after all the point the pledge was making. No, they would rather accuse others of intentions that were not intended, of words that were never said, of motives that don't exist, and they throw in a lot of non sequitur, red herrings, and straw men to boot.

That is sad people. That is sad.
 
Personally I think it is sad here that some of our friends are so dishonestly characterizing Michelle Bachmann or any who are acknowledging that the conditions of life for so many black children today is deplorable. For some reason they don't wish to discuss that which was after all the point the pledge was making. No, they would rather accuse others of intentions that were not intended, of words that were never said, of motives that don't exist, and they throw in a lot of non sequitur, red herrings, and straw men to boot.

That is sad people. That is sad.

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are
 
Personally I think it is sad here that some of our friends are so dishonestly characterizing Michelle Bachmann or any who are acknowledging that the conditions of life for so many black children today is deplorable. For some reason they don't wish to discuss that which was after all the point the pledge was making. No, they would rather accuse others of intentions that were not intended, of words that were never said, of motives that don't exist, and they throw in a lot of non sequitur, red herrings, and straw men to boot.

That is sad people. That is sad.

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are
Well, that IS one of the major schisms of the two parties - we fundamentally differ on how to help, not whether to help.

But, partisans see what they WANT to see.
 
Some 2 years back a British girl was raped by 2 men who were watching pornography in their beach house in Asia. The girl was walking on the beach. The 2 men saw the girl and they raped her.

The above (40% of visitors to porn sites are women) is the main reason why today pornography rules world society and majority of people are slaves to porn and prostitution. Majority of people are weak mentally and physically and they cannot fight back.

I think now 20% of the websites on the internet must be pornographic and 40% of all search engine requests must be porn related.

People who watch porn and they say that they do not have sexual thoughts for opposite sex in real life or they do not use porn language, they are big liars.

The only reason porn watchers do not react in real life is that they fear being thrown in prison or get beaten or lynched by people mobs on the roads. In the absence of law. it will be free for all.

Somebody said to me prostitutes earn $50,000 per night.

Some billionaires are involved in porn and prostitution.

Some rich businessmen book entire expensive hotels for sex parties and people think they are having business meetings.

Managers of companies are involved in sex parties and many managers work as pimps to get sales for their companies.
 
Personally I think it is sad here that some of our friends are so dishonestly characterizing Michelle Bachmann or any who are acknowledging that the conditions of life for so many black children today is deplorable. For some reason they don't wish to discuss that which was after all the point the pledge was making. No, they would rather accuse others of intentions that were not intended, of words that were never said, of motives that don't exist, and they throw in a lot of non sequitur, red herrings, and straw men to boot.

That is sad people. That is sad.

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are

Wouldn't that factor into having a discussion on why the condition for so many black children is deplorable today? It seems to me a useles exercise to continue to trash Michelle Bachmann with dishonest accusations and to trash conservatives with a different point of view. How does that help those black children?

We have poured six trillion dollars into the war on poverty and we can point to a few successes. To far more negative consequences however. That Pledge was pointing to one of the unintended negative consequences of prior policy that has decimated families, most particularly black families, and has led to whole generations of kids who sit on the floor to eat their dinners so that a stray bullet is less likely to hit them. Who are afraid to walk in their own neighborhoods for fear of their own neighbors. Who have never experienced a loving father. Who are consigned to rat infested projects and likely permanent unemployment.

If pouring more money into the problem was the answer we would see better results don't you think?

Perhaps a truly compassionate liberal might want to step back and acknowledge that the programs and efforts so far aren't working too well. And maybe the conservatives are on to something?

Wanting policy that works is not uncompassionate. Wanting to continue policy that isn't working well is not compassion.
 
Did Obama give $9 Trillion (whatever) bailouts so that 200 million Americans get involved with or watch pornography?

Money is the root cause of all the sins and evils in world society.
 
Or have someone tell you that a child might have been better a slave than now in a one parent home.

Of course, no one except you lying fascists said anything of the sort.

What the pledge said is "Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families"



You don't mind lying though, you have a party to support and zero integrity.
 
An American said to me that 200 million Americans are involved in pornography. Is this true?

World Pornography is $200 Billion every year. If you view porn you are involved in pornography.

Obama and George Bush graduated from Harvard. Why is America bankrupt?

10,000 Rapes in 5 days. If USA rapes is 243 per day then world rapes is easily 3000 plus per day.

2 years back, a woman was walking on the street and I heard 4 policemen standing on a street corner saying "insert her from behind".

Yesterday I read in forum that some policemen performed porn acts on a woman.

Some months back I heard 2 men on a busy street say with gestures "this is how you put in her from behind. They have this"

Be careful everybody. You do not know what world people talk about your family members when they walk on the streets or travel by cars or work in offices or go on vacations.

Moderators think of your family members and do not delete this thread. This is very important for everybody and their family members.

Majority of internet servers and Google servers are located in USA but there is no serious actions from USA to shut down world porn.

28 black men gang raped 11 year old Texas-girl. Yesterday a woman was gang raped and burnt alive. Another girl eyes was blinded when she tried to fight rape. There have been 6 rapes in 2 days in Indian state of UP. There must have been 10000 rapes in past 5 days worldwide.

In other countries woman and girls are brutally raped and killed. Take the example of middle east where revolution is going on right now and there is no law and order.

World sex crimes are highest since Obama became USA president. Obama is responsible for the safety of world people because internet servers and Google servers are located in USA. USA can shut down internet porn anytime they want but no actions from USA.

Why did not George Bush and Obama destroy world pornography and prostitution on the first day of their job?

George Bush should have ordered USA Army to join forces with Russian Army and destroy world useless people instead of fighting terrorists.

Russian president and Obama is responsible for world sex crimes and other crimes because they are leaders of world' most powerful army.

Obama joked that he is seeking a second term because he needs armed guards to keep boys away from his daughthers.

My question: What about daugthers and sons of ordinary people who walk alone on the streets and many are victims of serious crimes?

What about small children getting killed in Afghanistan and gulf wars?

This is the reason God is punishing USA severely today with end-less financial crisis.

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Under President Barack Obama, the Justice Department has not filed a single new obscenity case anywhere in the country.

Nearly half of the members of the U.S. Senate are urging Attorney General Eric Holder to step up federal prosecutions of adult pornography.

In a letter sent to Holder earlier this week, 42 senators encouraged Holder instruct prosecutors and FBI agents to counter what the lawmakers called "the growing scourge of obscenity in America." Anti-pornography activists have noted with alarm that, under President Barack Obama, the Justice Department has not filed a single new obscenity case anywhere in the country.

"We write to urge the Department of Justice vigorously to enforce federal obscenity laws against major commercial distributors of hardcore adult pornography," the senators wrote. "We believe it is imperative that the Department, with cooperation by the FBI, investigate and prosecute all major producers and distributors of adult obscenity. We need your leadership."

"We know more than ever how illegal adult obscenity contributes to violence against women, addiction, harm to children, and sex trafficking. This material harms individuals, families, and communities and the problems are only getting worse," the senators added.

Source: politico website

Black's Response to 28 Black men Gang rape of 11 year old Texas girl

White America stunned by black response to gang rape of eleven year old

Photo Quanell X. This former crack dealer is a leader of the New Black Panther Party. His group wears paramilitary uniforms and says Allah will bring about the extermination of all white people in the near future.

The actions of the black community in Cleveland, Texas, have been so despicable that even the most liberal black apologists are furious.

As many as 28 black men aged 14-28 gang raped an eleven year old Hispanic girl. They videotaped the assault with multiple cameras. Video and camera stills were found circulating at several majority black public schools, including the Middle School attended by the victim.

Then when police arrested the accused perpetrators, many in the black community defended them. A large rally was even held by the New Black Panther Party, which blamed the victim and white racists. Quanell X, a Black Panther leader, distributed a picture of the eleven year old victim and suggested that she enticed the men into raping her. He called the arrests of the accused perpetrators “racist.”

Read more ............

Source: cofcc.org website

Obama's Close Friend Arrested In Prostitution Sting

Bobby Titcomb Often Seen Spending Holidays With President. Titcomb usually spends the holidays with the president and his family when they spend time in Hawaii. He has been seen playing golf and attending picnics with the president

The Honolulu Police Department confirmed that a close friend of President Barack Obama was arrested Monday in connection with a prostitution sting case.

Source: kitv website

5,200 Pentagon Employees Purchased Child Porn

Source: CNN youtube video

World people must be talking about Obama's family and George Bush's family in the same "porn language"

When it comes to porn world people do not differentiate between President and Beggar.

3 Billion people survive on $2 per day. World money is exhausted thanks to world leaders and financial idiots. World good people are terrified that their families will be hungry but brainless people are paying $200 Billion plus every year to porn. What does this mean?

Obama, George bush, Russian president, Pope should give a statement for world porn and prostitution as soon as possible.

If Obama can sign "kill order" for Osama then Obama can easily sign "kill order" for world porn and prostitution.

God will forgive USA to some extent and 50% of USA sins will be wiped out.

Indian state of UP is in India. India has serious problems. Read Indian media websites.

The Pentagon’s newest policy grants the US military the ability to respond to a cyber attack on government networks with physical force – equating hacking to an act of war.

Source: rt website

Pornography is computer based attacks from a foreign country. The Army will respond with full physical force.

If somebody sends porn pictures and porn & sex videos into your house to your family members, what will you do?

Country is similar to a house and citizens are similar to family members.

There are 192 countries and USA and Europe is responsible for majority of porn worldwide because internet servers are located in USA and Europe.

The 4 policemen who used "porn language" were guarding the Indian parliament in New Delhi. If women are not safe 50 meters outside the parliament where there are some 2000+ police and army protecting it then where in the world is women safe?

I think USA situation is similar to India because USA and India are good friends (according to Obama).

I had visited New delhi 2 years back and I had to kill 8 hours that day so I started walking outside the Indian parliament. The 4 policemen were scared when I asked them "can I go inside the building". Later I was standing outside Indian president house and watching some monkeys feed on nuts.

That day, I knew something is wrong with Indian leadership and today everybody knows what is going on with Indian leadership. Read Indian media websites. That day I walked 10 miles.

Internet was invented by the USA Army in year 1969. I think internet arrived for world people in year 1985.

Now Army will be angry since world people are using army's invention for useless purpose. Army will respond with full physical force.

When dogs mate or have sex on the streets, they are attacked by other dogs. The same applies to other animals and human beings.

If people have sex outside their rooms, they will be attacked by other people. Sex with your loyal partner should be behind closed rooms only (God's rule/law).

All the world porn pictures and sex videos will be destroyed by fire anytime. Stay away porn and prostitution or you will be burned badly by Fire.

75% of American movies and world movies have nudity and sex. Movies is one of the biggest reason for the spread of nudity and sex worldwide before internet arrived. Useless movies must be banned immediately.

Movie actions are fake and they require many re-takes/trials to get the perfect shot. Movie stars know they will not die in movies.

Real life actions are 100% different from movie world (fantasy world). Watch some wars videos and you will understand this. In real world there no guarantee for your life when you fight.

How can you finish 10 years of life story in 2 hours movies. People spend 10 hours in toilet in their 10 years of life. This is the reason movie people have no knowledge of real world and they cannot survive in harsh real world.

If you want to fight then fight in real life against injustice and evils and sins of the world society. Forget movies.
 
Personally I think it is sad here that some of our friends are so dishonestly characterizing Michelle Bachmann or any who are acknowledging that the conditions of life for so many black children today is deplorable. For some reason they don't wish to discuss that which was after all the point the pledge was making. No, they would rather accuse others of intentions that were not intended, of words that were never said, of motives that don't exist, and they throw in a lot of non sequitur, red herrings, and straw men to boot.

That is sad people. That is sad.

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are

omg, the "cruel nature of the document" lol
whens the last time you been to a housing project? That is you liberals IDEA of "helping people" Instead of encouraging people to HELP THEMSELVES you liberals make them poor victims who are unable to do anything. you do get a voter bloc that way, don't ya.
 
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Personally I think it is sad here that some of our friends are so dishonestly characterizing Michelle Bachmann or any who are acknowledging that the conditions of life for so many black children today is deplorable. For some reason they don't wish to discuss that which was after all the point the pledge was making. No, they would rather accuse others of intentions that were not intended, of words that were never said, of motives that don't exist, and they throw in a lot of non sequitur, red herrings, and straw men to boot.

That is sad people. That is sad.

If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are

omg, the "cruel nature of the document" lol
whens the last time you been to a housing project? That is you liberals IDEA of "helping people" Instead of encouraging people to HELP THEMSELVES you liberals make them poor victims who are unable to do anything. you do get a voter bloc that way, don't ya.

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates
 
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If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are

omg, the "cruel nature of the document" lol
whens the last time you been to a housing project? That is you liberals IDEA of "helping people" Instead of encouraging people to HELP THEMSELVES you liberals make them poor victims who are unable to do anything. you do get a voter bloc that way, don't ya.

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates
As I said, partisans see what the want to see.

Go on ignoring facts. You look stupid, thus doing your 'side' no good.
 
If there was actually any sincerity from Conservatives in actually trying to help those deplorable conditions, I might have some sympathy. The cruel nature of the document in its attacks on blacks, gays and Muslims was an embarassment for the GOP. The farther they distance themselves from that partisan rag...the better they are

omg, the "cruel nature of the document" lol
whens the last time you been to a housing project? That is you liberals IDEA of "helping people" Instead of encouraging people to HELP THEMSELVES you liberals make them poor victims who are unable to do anything. you do get a voter bloc that way, don't ya.

Show me some legislation initiated by Michelle Bachmann that is targeted at helping black children emerge from "deplorable conditions"

Mitt Romney had it right. Signing that document is below the dignity of credible presidential candidates

you idiot liberal. WE DON'T NEED government legislation to HELP black children emerge from anything. They should be encouraged to DO IT ON THIER own like the MAJORITY of the people do everyday..But you liberals don't BELIEVE people can live life without the NANNY GUBERMENT.
 
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