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:lol: Liberal Republicans are a near extinct breed. The only ones you have left in Congress is Snowe and Collins up in Maine. And on a constant base, I always hear how they are just "RINO". So that's two "Liberal Republican" out of all the Republicans in Congress. Quite a bit of ideological diversity going on there. :lol:

That's another thing too. You always hear the phrase RINO being thrown around by Conservatives, yet almost never hear the phrase DINO. Ideological purity is only important in the GOP.

And? Didn't the Democratic National Committee go into Connecticut and run someone against Lieberman because he wasn't liberal enough for the national party? Don't prove how stupid you are by turning into an rdean clone, think for once in your life.

hey. don't call my friends rdean.

Tell him to stop acting like him.
 
Where the **** do you people get this bullshit from?

Take a look at the states the Blue dogs represent sometime, then compare them to Republicans from liberal states. You will see that the truth is that Republicans are just as broad spectrum as Democrats. There are far right, socially conservative Democrats, and far left, socially liberal Republicans.

Ok, then name the far left socially liberal Republicans in Congress.

Are you really going to pretend you are that stupid?

Olympia Snowe on the Issues

Maybe you aren't pretending.

You named one Republican, who btw is not far left. That makes your claim horse manure.

Oh, yeah, from your own link:

Olympia Snowe is a Moderate Populist Conservative.

That's what QW calls a far left liberal Republican.:lol::lol::lol:
 
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And? Didn't the Democratic National Committee go into Connecticut and run someone against Lieberman because he wasn't liberal enough for the national party? Don't prove how stupid you are by turning into an rdean clone, think for once in your life.

Wrong.

Ned Lamont - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lamont began showing signs of considering a run against Lieberman around February 2005. In March 2006, Lamont officially announced his campaign for the United States Senate against Lieberman. As of July 19, 2006, Lamont had spent over $2.5 million of his own personal fortune on his campaign.[23] It was reported that as of September 11 Lamont had spent another $1.5 million of his own money on the campaign, with two months yet to go. [24] Lamont continued to pour personal funds into the campaign during September, with reports indicating his total contributions now exceed $12.7 million.[25] Also, Lamont pledged not to take money from lobbyists.[26] Lamont's campaign manager, Tom Swan, was, however, a registered lobbyist with the state of Connecticut. [27] In early 2006, Lamont received the backing of former independent Connecticut Governor and Republican U.S. Senator Lowell Weicker, who was unseated by Lieberman in 1988.[28]

Lamont eventually portrayed himself as an anti-war candidate calling for an immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, in contrast to Lieberman, who supports the continued presence of U.S. troops in Iraq and advocated for a troop increase proposed by then-President George W. Bush.[29] His campaign was partially supported by anti-war activists who oppose the Iraq war and are calling for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, including MoveOn.org, which donated $251,156 from its contributors to the campaign.[30][31]

On July 6, 2006, Lamont faced off against Lieberman in a 51-minute televised debate which covered issues ranging from the war in Iraq to energy policy to immigration. [32] Lieberman argued that he was being subjected to a "litmus test" on the war, insisted that he was a "bread and butter Democrat" and on a number of occasions asked, "Who is Ned Lamont?" Lieberman asked Lamont if he would disclose his income tax returns. After the debate, Lamont did release his 2005 tax return and financial details about prior years. Lamont focused on Lieberman's supportive relationship with Republicans ("...if you won't challenge President Bush and his failed agenda, I will") and criticized his vote for the "Bush/Cheney/Lieberman energy bill." Lieberman stated, in response to Lamont's assertion that he supported Republican policies, that he had voted with the Democratic caucus in the Senate 90% of the time. However, Lamont argued that the then three-term incumbent lacked the courage to challenge the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq War.[32]
Lamont began as a "dark-horse" candidate, but was at a statistical dead heat with Lieberman in July, and went on to win the primary in August. Polls taken prior to the primary vote showed Lieberman, if running as an independent, polling better among Republicans and independents in a three-way race, including Republican candidate Alan Schlesinger, who greatly trailed both Lamont and Lieberman.[33] Early August polls, however, showed Lamont increasing his lead significantly,[34] and many speculate on the effect of the primary outcome (and expected high Democratic endorsement) on the general election. The initial post primary poll showed Lieberman holding a narrow lead in a general election, however.[35]

On July 30, 2006, the London Sunday Times reported that former president Bill Clinton is believed to have warned Lieberman not to run as an independent if he lost the primary to Lamont.[36] Many Democratic leaders pledged to support the winner of the Connecticut Democratic primary. Most Democratic leaders, however, supported Lieberman's campaign for the Democratic nomination, and some, including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, allegedly asked Lamont not to run.[37]

My mistake, it wasn't the power brokers of the Democrats, it was the people who thought Lieberman was a DINO.

National Debunker: Democrat In Name Only

The NYT.

A Senate Race in Connecticut - NYTimes.com

The reason I called you an rdean clone is your idiotic claim that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats.

Democrat In Name Only - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is Obama a Democrat in name only (DINO)? - Yahoo! Answers

Stop trying to grow up to be brain dead.
 
Ok, then name the far left socially liberal Republicans in Congress.

Are you really going to pretend you are that stupid?

Olympia Snowe on the Issues

Maybe you aren't pretending.

You named one Republican, who btw is not far left. That makes your claim horse manure.

Oh, yeah, from your own link:

Olympia Snowe is a Moderate Populist Conservative.

That's what QW calls a far left liberal Republican.:lol::lol::lol:

I named one without thinking.

If you want others, there is Scott Brown and Chris Christie.

My guess is your head will explode over me including Christie, but he supports gun control and abortion, that makes him socially liberal.
 
My mistake, it wasn't the power brokers of the Democrats, it was the people who thought Lieberman was a DINO.

National Debunker: Democrat In Name Only

The NYT.

A Senate Race in Connecticut - NYTimes.com

The reason I called you an rdean clone is your idiotic claim that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats.

Democrat In Name Only - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is Obama a Democrat in name only (DINO)? - Yahoo! Answers

Stop trying to grow up to be brain dead.

I never said that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats. Let's reread what I said, shall we?

That's another thing too. You always hear the phrase RINO being thrown around by Conservatives, yet almost never hear the phrase DINO. Ideological purity is only important in the GOP.

I said almost, I didn't say never. That's you putting words in my mouth. You're 0 for 2.

Furthermore, a blog, the NYT and yahoo answers doesn't nearly come close to 1/10th of the amount that RINO is thrown around. I also don't see where these source equal "the people" saying that he was a DINO.

Though I fail to see where NYT calls him a DINO.

Let's face the facts though QW. The fact you had to reach as far as a no-name blog and yahoo answers to find where the term DINO is used only goes to prove my point. Ideological purity is not a factor in the Democratic Party.
 
And let us not forget Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, both candidates for the Republican nomination.
 
My mistake, it wasn't the power brokers of the Democrats, it was the people who thought Lieberman was a DINO.

National Debunker: Democrat In Name Only

The NYT.

A Senate Race in Connecticut - NYTimes.com

The reason I called you an rdean clone is your idiotic claim that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats.

Democrat In Name Only - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is Obama a Democrat in name only (DINO)? - Yahoo! Answers

Stop trying to grow up to be brain dead.

I never said that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats. Let's reread what I said, shall we?

That's another thing too. You always hear the phrase RINO being thrown around by Conservatives, yet almost never hear the phrase DINO. Ideological purity is only important in the GOP.

I said almost, I didn't say never. That's you putting words in my mouth. You're 0 for 2.

Furthermore, a blog, the NYT and yahoo answers doesn't nearly come close to 1/10th of the amount that RINO is thrown around. I also don't see where these source equal "the people" saying that he was a DINO.

Though I fail to see where NYT comes him a DINO.

Let's face the facts though QW. The fact you had to reach as far as a no-name blog and yahoo answers to find where the term DINO is used only goes to prove my point. Ideological purity is not a factor in the Democratic Party.
The Dems are pretty loose in what they require. As long as you want to throw money on problems to fix them (and a lot of those problems consistently fail yearly GAO audits) rather than increase efficiency, you're a Dem.
 
I named one without thinking.

If you want others, there is Scott Brown and Chris Christie.

My guess is your head will explode over me including Christie, but he supports gun control and abortion, that makes him socially liberal.

What? Chris Christie a Liberal?

The guy is personally pro-life, however he doesn't support using his office as Governor to make it illegal.

Just because he decides to be aggressive about gun control laws or not outright ban Abortion does not make him a Liberal.
 
When I was part of a county central committee, we threw "DINO" around a lot as an insult. :/ Maybe we just don't air our dirty laundry the same way the GOP does...?
 
And let us not forget Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, both candidates for the Republican nomination.

Both are Libertarians, not Liberals. Libertarians almost always are Liberal on social issues and Conservative on fiscal issues. Gary Johnson is a huge proponent of states rights, as is Ron Paul.

And Johnson won't poll more than 5% in the primaries. Paul won't poll more than 7%.
 
I named one without thinking.

If you want others, there is Scott Brown and Chris Christie.

My guess is your head will explode over me including Christie, but he supports gun control and abortion, that makes him socially liberal.

What? Chris Christie a Liberal?

The guy is personally pro-life, however he doesn't support using his office as Governor to make it illegal.

Just because he decides to be aggressive about gun control laws or not outright ban Abortion does not make him a Liberal.


Actually, I think that balancing liberty with safety is what makes you a liberal. Or rather, the kind of liberal I grew up reading about.

I mean, you call Obama a liberal, right? But he says he's uh, 'still thinking' about same-sex marriage but doesn't support government discrimination. What does that tell you?

Liberal, to me, is about how you act - not your lip service.
 
And let us not forget Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, both candidates for the Republican nomination.

Both are Libertarians, not Liberals. Libertarians almost always are Liberal on social issues and Conservative on fiscal issues. Gary Johnson is a huge proponent of states rights, as is Ron Paul.

And Johnson won't poll more than 5% in the primaries. Paul won't poll more than 7%.

Maybe 'liberal' and 'conservative' is too simplistic, then. I can be conservative on some issues and hawkish on foreign policy, but I'm not a Republican. I'm your Iowa-raised blue Demoract type: progressive, but Kucinich gives me a headache and I threw away my FREE MUMIA t shirt after high school.
 
My mistake, it wasn't the power brokers of the Democrats, it was the people who thought Lieberman was a DINO.

National Debunker: Democrat In Name Only

The NYT.

A Senate Race in Connecticut - NYTimes.com

The reason I called you an rdean clone is your idiotic claim that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats.

Democrat In Name Only - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is Obama a Democrat in name only (DINO)? - Yahoo! Answers

Stop trying to grow up to be brain dead.

I never said that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats. Let's reread what I said, shall we?

That's another thing too. You always hear the phrase RINO being thrown around by Conservatives, yet almost never hear the phrase DINO. Ideological purity is only important in the GOP.
I said almost, I didn't say never. That's you putting words in my mouth. You're 0 for 2.

Furthermore, a blog, the NYT and yahoo answers doesn't nearly come close to 1/10th of the amount that RINO is thrown around. I also don't see where these source equal "the people" saying that he was a DINO.

Though I fail to see where NYT calls him a DINO.

Let's face the facts though QW. The fact you had to reach as far as a no-name blog and yahoo answers to find where the term DINO is used only goes to prove my point. Ideological purity is not a factor in the Democratic Party.

How do you know what I hear, or how often I hear it?

The reason you do not hear the term DINO is that you do not pay attention to anything other than a few people who agree with your worldview. That is why you end up looking stupid when you post and then claim to be moderate. you don't pay enough attention to the real world to actually know what a moderate is.

Personally, I hear the term DINO just as often as I hear the term RINO, and I do not claim to be a moderate.
 
I named one without thinking.

If you want others, there is Scott Brown and Chris Christie.

My guess is your head will explode over me including Christie, but he supports gun control and abortion, that makes him socially liberal.

What? Chris Christie a Liberal?

The guy is personally pro-life, however he doesn't support using his office as Governor to make it illegal.

Just because he decides to be aggressive about gun control laws or not outright ban Abortion does not make him a Liberal.

I said socially liberal, learn to read. He is socially liberal, even if he does not agree with you about everything.
 
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When I was part of a county central committee, we threw "DINO" around a lot as an insult. :/ Maybe we just don't air our dirty laundry the same way the GOP does...?

Maybe Modbert just doesn't pay attention to anything that contradicts his worldview. That is what makes him like rdean.
 
And let us not forget Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, both candidates for the Republican nomination.

Both are Libertarians, not Liberals. Libertarians almost always are Liberal on social issues and Conservative on fiscal issues. Gary Johnson is a huge proponent of states rights, as is Ron Paul.

And Johnson won't poll more than 5% in the primaries. Paul won't poll more than 7%.

Do you understand what the words Socially Liberal mean? That would be the other end of the spectrum from socially conservative.

How does your prediction about their poll numbers change the fact that they are both running for for the Republican nomination?
 
How do you know what I hear, or how often I hear it?

The reason you do not hear the term DINO is that you do not pay attention to anything other than a few people who agree with your worldview. That is why you end up looking stupid when you post and then claim to be moderate. you don't pay enough attention to the real world to actually know what a moderate is.

Personally, I hear the term DINO just as often as I hear the term RINO, and I do not claim to be a moderate.

:lol: I don't supposedly pay attention to anything other than a few people who agree with my worldview and yet I've been reading Conservative posts on USMB three years this September.

You do realize that makes absolutely no sense, right?

Furthermore, now that you've run out of evidence (though what you had in the first place wasn't that great), you've now gone on the attack for personal shots.

Typical really and not surprising whatsoever.

I've been on USMB almost three years and not once can I recall that I have seen the word DINO used to describe any Democrat. I've seen RINO being used numerous times. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you hearing DINO as often as RINO is pure bullshit.
 
My mistake, it wasn't the power brokers of the Democrats, it was the people who thought Lieberman was a DINO.

National Debunker: Democrat In Name Only

The NYT.

A Senate Race in Connecticut - NYTimes.com

The reason I called you an rdean clone is your idiotic claim that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats.

Democrat In Name Only - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is Obama a Democrat in name only (DINO)? - Yahoo! Answers

Stop trying to grow up to be brain dead.

I never said that no one uses the term DINO about Democrats. Let's reread what I said, shall we?

That's another thing too. You always hear the phrase RINO being thrown around by Conservatives, yet almost never hear the phrase DINO. Ideological purity is only important in the GOP.
I said almost, I didn't say never. That's you putting words in my mouth. You're 0 for 2.

Furthermore, a blog, the NYT and yahoo answers doesn't nearly come close to 1/10th of the amount that RINO is thrown around. I also don't see where these source equal "the people" saying that he was a DINO.

Though I fail to see where NYT calls him a DINO.

Let's face the facts though QW. The fact you had to reach as far as a no-name blog and yahoo answers to find where the term DINO is used only goes to prove my point. Ideological purity is not a factor in the Democratic Party.

How do you know what I hear, or how often I hear it?

The reason you do not hear the term DINO is that you do not pay attention to anything other than a few people who agree with your worldview. That is why you end up looking stupid when you post and then claim to be moderate. you don't pay enough attention to the real world to actually know what a moderate is.

Personally, I hear the term DINO just as often as I hear the term RINO, and I do not claim to be a moderate.

Unfortunately, 'liberal' has become a bad word, so 'moderate' is someone's way of begging the media to not label them as 'liberal'.

Liberal has a negative connotation (eg, to be excessive with something), while Conservative has a positive one (eg, making conservative choices or thinking before you act). While 'liberal' is supposed to come from 'liberty', it's opposition to 'conservative' has changed the meaning.

Personally, I prefer the term Progressive or Populist. Can't have Progressive without progress! :D

Ah, political linguistics.
 
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