let me ask you same, who represents the Democratic party, who is their 'base'...?
There is no real big group on the Left that represents the Democratic party. It's not like the right with the Tea Party. Therefore I would say going by ideology, it's Liberals/Progressives. However, they only make up a slim majority of the party. As it's shown in Congress with the Blue Dogs, etc,
the Democratic party compasses a vast length on the political spectrum that means they don't vote lock step on the issues.
What you have going on right now is the GOP is pandering to their base, that being people who are either part of Tea Party or support the Tea Party in their goals. That's why candidates like Michele Bachmann are doing so well and why candidates like Mitt Romney are beginning to falter.
However, the Democrats rarely pander to their 'base'.
I cannot take anyone seriously who makes such a frivolous and ridiculous statement on the back of a what appears to be for them a thought out message, but I ill try anyway.
It appears to me that you either follow politics from a heavily skewed viewpoint or don't really at all.
your 'base' of blue dogs was slaughtered in nov. they were ( and I made this point to you before in another thread, the one here in you accused me of insulting you) that Rahm Emmanuel performed brilliantly in helping to follow thru on his and nancys idea to gather and run as many blue dogs as possible in 06 , they won and took the house. Then they were then thrown overboard in the pursuit of the prog/lib old bulls mantra of big gov. who have uber safe seats and run the show via committee control, ala nancy ( speaker) waxman, rangel, conyers etc etc....
the tea party is a fiscally con. grp. that in effect carries the platform that almost all cons ( and a lot of the growing independents) have always found attractive, smaller gov and a fiscally sound gov., how many of the loose conglomeration of tea party grp.s are following bachmann is a Q I don't know the answer too, as she trys to anyone hom will sppt her she will pander to alike minded to her and others, they all do it.
I will say this one more time, EVERY parties candidates all run to the far reaches of the number line to gather in as many votes as possible to get ahead in the primaries, then run to center if nominated to appeal to a wider swath of the ever growing Independents....
It appears to me you seem to think that the tea partys will sppt. Bachmann no matter what because shes a social conservative as well as a fiscal one. Based on what ?
This whole bruhahaha? Because she gaining ground after presenting well in a debate and was born in Iowa and a few polls that says shes in second place? ItÂ’s the run up to the primariesÂ…the only folks ho pay attention to this now are the highly motivated, this year might be different because of the economy, but to start reading tea leaves no ( no pun intended) is very premature. The tea party appeals to more folks than the lib/prog. sect because they are for smaller gov. and a fiscally sound one, the moment they start going sideways into the social agenda they will begin to lose influence, but that will inho, be later in the primariesÂ….
Just because Bachmann collects what you say are tea partys votes, true OR not, doesnÂ’t mean they are the rep. Base.
And just because there are fiscal cons hom like me sppt the tea parties small G and fiscal platforms doesnÂ’t mean I will sppt. them if they do go sideways.
AND, I think I am not alone, at all in that thought.
( Oh and just because the tea prty helped put people in congress doesnÂ’t mean their members ill vote exactly the ay they want them too, see: dem. Blue dogs)
The media has been screaming for red meat and want rep. candidates to get going because the want to sell news and savage them as they appear. Why? Because Obama started in April, so they ant a foil.
There is a long, long road to hoe.
Conversely the weekly standard and other dependable republican/con. publications ran articles in Jan -march 2004 ( note the date -2004) wondering why bush wasnÂ’t getting his message out Â…Â…interesting eh?
And as far as dem. ‘Bases’, how about, oh, unions? Minorities?
Frankly each party has a number of ‘bases’ all requiring the middle or independent to come aboard to push them over the top.
and this-
However, the Democrats rarely pander to their 'base'.
there is no river long enough or deep enough to match that denial.
Liberal Republicans are a near extinct breed. The only ones you have left in Congress is Snowe and Collins up in Maine. And on a constant base, I always hear how they are just "RINO". So that's two "Liberal Republican" out of all the Republicans in Congress. Quite a bit of ideological diversity going on there. ) when Republicans try to write anti-gay bigotry into their party platforms and candidates for President sign anti-gay pledges like the one being discussed here.
no thats your gig, I never said I was offended....
