AUTOMATIC BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP And Comp. Immig. Reform.

[LilOlLady]

AUTOMATIC BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP
And Comp. Immig. Reform.

Comp. Immig. Reform will deal with the 11.9 million already here with Amnesty and mandatory E-Verify with a penalty and the future wave of illegals, but how will it deal with the new wave of illegals entering on visas and having anchor babies eligible for all the benefits of welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and public housing but E-Verify prevents them from working? Will they be given green cards and put on a path to citizenship and family eligible for family re-unification? Business as usual. I am curious as to how the gang of 8 idiots plan to deal with that existing automatic birthright citizenship incentive problem that will continue to provide a new wave of illegals and their families. Answer is they can’t unless they deal directly with automatic birthright citizenship.

 

[waltky]

Texas court judge stands his ground...

Judge: Texas May Deny Birth Certificates to Kids of Illegal Immigrants With Mexican IDs
October 18, 2015 — A federal judge has chosen for now not to force Texas health officials to change their stance in denying birth certificates to immigrant families with U.S- born children, saying that the families raised "grave concerns" but more evidence is needed, according to a ruling issued Friday.

U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman in Austin denied an emergency injunction on behalf of immigrant families seeking birth certificates for their children after the Department of State Health Services refused to recognize as valid certain forms of identification. The families' lawyers had asked for the judge to intervene, saying that the children's right to health care, travel, and schooling--along with parental rights--are being harmed. Pitman called the arguments of the families "heartfelt, compelling and persuasive," but said that this was "not enough without substantiating evidence to carry the burden necessary to grant relief," according to the ruling.

At issue is the acceptance of identification cards_known as matriculas consulares_issued by Mexican consulates to citizens living and working in the United States. Lawyers for the families contend that prior to 2013 they were able to present these document, as well as foreign passports without U.S. visas in them, and obtain birth certificates in Texas. The judge said in his ruling that attorneys had not shown that health officials had improperly "focused on and excluded" these documents. The judge also questioned the integrity of the information behind the consulate identification cards and passports. "A birth certificate is a vital and important document," he said. "As such, Texas has a clear interest in protecting access to that document."

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement that the ruling "is an important first step in ensuring the integrity of birth certificates" and that the agency will continue to defend the health officials. The case will continue. The immigrant rights lawyers, who now represent 28 adults and their 32 children, first sued officials with the Department of State Health Services' Vital Statistics Unit last May. The parents in the lawsuit entered the country illegally from Mexico and Central America, but the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment guarantees the right of citizenship to children born here.

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[Unkotare]

If folks want a constitutional amendment, they best get busy working on it.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We need to abolish birth right citizenship. People abuse it from all over the world in it is hurting this country.

 

[Unkotare]

And still nobody working on an amendment...

 

[Conservative65]

If folks want a constitutional amendment, they best get busy working on it.

Don't need one. Just apply the 14th that's being misused in the manner and for the purpose under which those that wrote it intended it to be applied.

To address your comment, folks can't do it.

 

[Unkotare]

If folks want a constitutional amendment, they best get busy working on it.

Don't need one.

The law is not going to change otherwise, and you are just wasting your breath.

 

[Conservative65]

If folks want a constitutional amendment, they best get busy working on it.

Don't need one.

The law is not going to change otherwise, and you are just wasting your breath.

I suggested an easy and correct way to do it. That you ignore it is your fault.

 

[Unkotare]

If folks want a constitutional amendment, they best get busy working on it.

Don't need one.

The law is not going to change otherwise, and you are just wasting your breath.

I suggested an easy and correct way to do it. .....

The law will not be changed without an amendment. Stop wasting time.

 

[Conservative65]

If folks want a constitutional amendment, they best get busy working on it.

Don't need one.

The law is not going to change otherwise, and you are just wasting your breath.

I suggested an easy and correct way to do it. .....

The law will not be changed without an amendment. Stop wasting time.

So you support illegals coming here? Standing up for what's right is NEVER a waste of time.

 

[Unkotare]

If folks want a constitutional amendment, they best get busy working on it.

Don't need one.

The law is not going to change otherwise, and you are just wasting your breath.

I suggested an easy and correct way to do it. .....

The law will not be changed without an amendment. Stop wasting time.

So you support illegals coming here? Standing up for what's right is NEVER a waste of time.

Does your straw man have papers?

 

[Conservative65]

Don't need one.

The law is not going to change otherwise, and you are just wasting your breath.

I suggested an easy and correct way to do it. .....

The law will not be changed without an amendment. Stop wasting time.

So you support illegals coming here? Standing up for what's right is NEVER a waste of time.

Does your straw man have papers?

My claim has historical support.

 

[Unkotare]

The law is not going to change otherwise, and you are just wasting your breath.

I suggested an easy and correct way to do it. .....

The law will not be changed without an amendment. Stop wasting time.

So you support illegals coming here? Standing up for what's right is NEVER a waste of time.

Does your straw man have papers?

My claim has historical support.

Entirely wrong.

 

[Conservative65]

I suggested an easy and correct way to do it. .....

The law will not be changed without an amendment. Stop wasting time.

So you support illegals coming here? Standing up for what's right is NEVER a waste of time.

Does your straw man have papers?

My claim has historical support.

Entirely wrong.

Try studying traitor.

 

[Unkotare]

The law will not be changed without an amendment. Stop wasting time.

So you support illegals coming here? Standing up for what's right is NEVER a waste of time.

Does your straw man have papers?

My claim has historical support.

Entirely wrong.

Try studying .....

I have. More than you are ever likely to.

 

[Conservative65]

So you support illegals coming here? Standing up for what's right is NEVER a waste of time.

Does your straw man have papers?

My claim has historical support.

Entirely wrong.

Try studying .....

I have. More than you are ever likely to.

If you had, you wouldn't express the opinion you have as it's incorrect.

Since you don't know me, making that claim is an arrogant, asshole statement.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

AUTOMATIC BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP
And Comp. Immig. Reform.

Comp. Immig. Reform will deal with the 11.9 million already here with Amnesty and mandatory E-Verify with a penalty and the future wave of illegals, but how will it deal with the new wave of illegals entering on visas and having anchor babies eligible for all the benefits of welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and public housing but E-Verify prevents them from working? Will they be given green cards and put on a path to citizenship and family eligible for family re-unification? Business as usual. I am curious as to how the gang of 8 idiots plan to deal with that existing automatic birthright citizenship incentive problem that will continue to provide a new wave of illegals and their families. Answer is they can’t unless they deal directly with automatic birthright citizenship.

I must confess I don't agree with birthright citizenship.

- If an illegal alien sneaks in to the country, commiting a crime in doing so, has her baby they should both be deported. Not split up, or the child being sent to live with lawful relatives or other.

My reasoning is that criminals are not allowed to benefit from their crimes. If you rob a bank and get caught you have to give the money bank in addition to other punishments. And when you get out you can't make any money selling a book or movie rights about your crime. So given this aspect why isn't the same logic applied to all crimes? As with illegal entry into the country? It's turning illegal border crossings into a game of football, or maybe more precisely rugby. Where you run into the goal and slam the ball (baby) down. Baby's in the goal so it counts. Mom may have gotten tackled, but the ball inthe goal's all that matters.

 

[Unkotare]

Does your straw man have papers?

My claim has historical support.

Entirely wrong.

Try studying .....

I have. More than you are ever likely to.

If you had, you wouldn't express the opinion you have as it's incorrect.

Since you don't know me, making that claim is an arrogant, asshole statement.

I'm pretty confident in my assessment of you, and certain of the pertinent history.

 

[Oldglory1]

AUTOMATIC BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP
And Comp. Immig. Reform.

Comp. Immig. Reform will deal with the 11.9 million already here with Amnesty and mandatory E-Verify with a penalty and the future wave of illegals, but how will it deal with the new wave of illegals entering on visas and having anchor babies eligible for all the benefits of welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and public housing but E-Verify prevents them from working? Will they be given green cards and put on a path to citizenship and family eligible for family re-unification? Business as usual. I am curious as to how the gang of 8 idiots plan to deal with that existing automatic birthright citizenship incentive problem that will continue to provide a new wave of illegals and their families. Answer is they can’t unless they deal directly with automatic birthright citizenship.

I must confess I don't agree with birthright citizenship.

- If an illegal alien sneaks in to the country, commiting a crime in doing so, has her baby they should both be deported. Not split up, or the child being sent to live with lawful relatives or other.

My reasoning is that criminals are not allowed to benefit from their crimes. If you rob a bank and get caught you have to give the money bank in addition to other punishments. And when you get out you can't make any money selling a book or movie rights about your crime. So given this aspect why isn't the same logic applied to all crimes? As with illegal entry into the country? It's turning illegal border crossings into a game of football, or maybe more precisely rugby. Where you run into the goal and slam the ball (baby) down. Baby's in the goal so it counts. Mom may have gotten tackled, but the ball inthe goal's all that matters.

Agreed and there is nothing in the 14th Amendment that grants them birthright citizenship. It has merely been a PC policy to do so. It needs to be re-visited by the Supreme Court for the correct interpretation and the intent at the time it was written.

 

[Unkotare]

Get crackin' on that amendment, or STFU already.