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Lol. Yes I mistakenly referred to the hatch as the cockpit, you then mistakenly referred to the hatch - which I explained the soldiers were dragged through - as the turret and called me a retard. Seems you are the tard - even though you should apparently know better! Lol.Amazing!!Crew members enter and exit the tank through hatches, which are usually armored. So, what I watched was the soldiers being dragged out through the hatches, tard.
An hour ago you were calling it a cockpit. (post #487)
Now you have suddenly became an expert on armored vehicle nomenclature.
I'm impressed. .....
Lol. Yes I mistakenly referred to the hatch as the cockpit, you then mistakenly referred to the hatch - which I explained the soldiers were dragged through - as the turret and called me a retard. Seems you are the tard - even though you should apparently know better! Lol.
Are you ever correct about anything?Anyone else find it funny that the state ran TV is CNN Turkey
The U.S. did not officially support that coup, which was my point.It's no surprise only because the U.S. cannot officially support a coup against a democratically elected leader, no matter what we actually wish for.No surprise...CNN is reporting that Obama has issued a statement supporting the democratically elected government.
You can't lecture the world about democracy, then cheer on a coup.
Well, actually, in 2002 the US paid for the coup in Venezuela against democratically elected Chavez, the group who did it were called like promoters of democracy, yet were taking down a democratically elected leader.
The US doesn't need to be consistent. They don't give a damn about democracy, never have. They just use it to attack others.
No, she's an imbecile. She was arguing that the military taking over Türkiye would result in an Islamic regime.Again you show what a moron you are.NATO has no business doing anything. Turkey wasn't attacked.
NATO should have an emergency meeting and immediately suspend Turkey's membership.
Turkey may be a strict Islamic nation by the end of the day.
The military is the guarantor of Ataturk's vision of a Western, secular democracy in Türkiye.
They must be popping champagne corks in the Pentagon!
Since coup failed, it turns out she was right.
Because the 'Liberal Media' was all about protecting George W. Bush?When Chavez was being flown to the US for incarceration, President George W Bush ordered him returned to his home country and released.Well, actually, in 2002 the US paid for the coup in Venezuela against democratically elected Chavez, the group who did it were called like promoters of democracy, yet were taking down a democratically elected leader.
The US doesn't need to be consistent. They don't give a damn about democracy, never have. They just use it to attack others.
One of those little details that the libtard media doesnt ever like to talk about.
And shortly after, you called it a turret.Amazing!!Crew members enter and exit the tank through hatches, which are usually armored. So, what I watched was the soldiers being dragged out through the hatches, tard.
An hour ago you were calling it a cockpit. (post #487)
Now you have suddenly became an expert on armored vehicle nomenclature.
I'm impressed. .....
Correct.And shortly after, you called it a turret.
In the wake of Friday night’s attempted coup in Turkey, many Turks were wondering why it took the military so long to rise up against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the government he appointed. Mr. Erdogan’s Islamic-oriented Justice and Development Party won three elections in 2002, 2007 and 2011, with an increase in voter support each time. But the party failed to garner an absolute majority, which would have allowed him to amend the constitution in certain ways. Required by party rules to relinquish the prime minister’s office after three terms, Mr. Erdogan sought and won the position of president, heretofore a largely ceremonial role. It is the presidency that he would like to see changed in the constitution, to give it full executive powers. However, the absence of this reform has not prevented the autocratic Mr. Erdogan from running the country as if he had such powers.
The Erdogan governments certainly advanced the right of the people to more openly practise their Islamic faith, but it is a liberty not everyone appreciates. Indeed, a large part of the country favours the absolute secularism prescribed by the republic’s founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. And it is Turkey’s military that has seen its role as safeguarding that secular constitution. As well, the Erdogan years have been notable for mercurial policy-making, for great swings in foreign policy and for credible accusations of corruption that were swept under the rug. Mr. Erdogan pledged to have “no problems” with Turkey’s neighbours, but quickly made enemies of two of its closest friendly states – Israel and Syria – and with its most powerful neighbour, Russia.
During his watch, Turkey has had to accommodate almost three million Syrians seeking refuge from the never-ending civil war in that country, and has suffered bombing attacks from Islamic State supporters. He has favoured the establishment of an independent Kurdish state in Northern Iraq while returning Turkey to a state of near civil war with its own Kurdish population and the militant Kurdistan Workers’ Party. And he has declared political war on the Gulen movement, a popular and moderate Islamic group led by a preacher named Fethullah Gulen, who lives in exile in the United States. The movement, which has followers in many parts of Turkey’s bureaucracy and military, has dropped the support it once gave Mr. Erdogan, accusing him of corruption and excessive autocratic behaviour.
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Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, addressing Turkey via Facetime, asserted he is President and vowed to crush the opposition forces. "I am calling on our nation. Go to squares, let us give them the best answer," Erdogan said in a video message, "I do not believe this coup attempt will be successful. No coup-plotter in history has ever succeeded," he said. First Army commander Umit Dundar said that the coup-plotters represent a small minority in First Army command. "There is nothing to worry about. We are taking necessary measures with the soldiers who have not joined them and are still acting within chain of command." Erdogan said he was Turkey's commander in chief and there had not been any attempt against him. The Turkish presidency said the president is at a secure location.
Erdogan identified the group as belonging to the FETO/PDY terrorist organization, which three years ago staged an unsuccessful overthrow of the government, Turkey's Anadolu agency reported. "This is an insurgency against democracy and national will," Prime Minister Binali Yildirim told the nation on live TV late on Friday night. "We will not allow it. There will never be any compromise on democracy. The perpetrators will pay the heaviest price." State broadcaster TRT said the military had declared martial law and a curfew, in a statement signed by a group calling itself the "Council for Peace in the Homeland". "The power in the country has been seized in its entirety," said a military statement quoted by Turkish media.
It said the coup had been launched "to ensure and restore constitutional order, democracy, human rights and freedoms and let the supremacy law in the country prevail, to restore order which was disrupted". "All our international agreements and commitments retain their validity," the statement added. "We hope our good relations will continue with all countries in the world." The presidency said the statement was invalid. Major bridges, Bosphorus Bridge and Fatih Sultan Mehmet Bridge, in Istanbul were closed and gunfire was heard at Istanbul airport as soldiers took to the streets of Ankara and Istanbul. There were reports that coup attempters opened fire on civilians, who hit the streets in several cities to protest the attempt, Hurriyet Daily News online reported. Soldiers fired bullets at civilians who walked to the Bosphorus Bridge. Another incident was in the Bayrampasa district of Istanbul, where one person was wounded.
Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said those responsible for what he described as an attempted coup by a faction within the military would pay the highest price. He said they would not be allowed to do anything to interrupt democracy. Meanwhile, President Erdogan is reportedly seeking asylum in Europe, amid the military coup. US military sources were quoted as telling NBC News that Erdogan's presidential jet was allegedly denied landing rights at Istanbul's airport, before it headed out of the country. He was then denied asylum in Germany, according to NBC, before heading to London. He also said "This country can't be managed from Pennsylvania," directly linking the coup attempt to US-based exiled imam Fethullah Gulen.
Tanks in streets in Turkey as military jets overfly cities as coup is attempted
Some 2,839 soldiers, including high-ranking officers, have been arrested after an attempted coup that is now over, says Turkey's PM Binali Yildirim. The attempted coup was a "black stain on Turkish democracy", he said, with 161 civilians killed and 1,440 wounded. Explosions and gunfire were heard in Ankara, Istanbul and elsewhere overnight and thousands of Turks heeded President Erdogan's call to rise up against the coup-plotters. It is unclear who was behind the coup.
The authorities also said 104 suspected coup-plotters had also been killed. Some 2,745 Turkish judges have also been dismissed in the wake of the coup, state media say. They are reported to include a member of the country's top court. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has blamed a "parallel structure" - a reference to Fethullah Gulen, a powerful but reclusive US-based Muslim cleric whom he accuses of fomenting unrest. Mr Gulen has rejected any suggestion of links to what happened, saying he condemned "in the strongest terms, the attempted military coup in Turkey". The Turkish government wants his extradition.
Why did coup happen? - Jeremy Bowen, BBC News Middle East Editor
The attempted coup happened because Turkey is deeply divided over President Erdogan's project to transform the country and because of the contagion of violence from the war in Syria. President Erdogan and his AK Party have become experts at winning elections, but there have always been doubts about his long-term commitment to democracy. He is a political Islamist who has rejected modern Turkey's secular heritage. Mr Erdogan has become increasingly authoritarian and is trying to turn himself into a strong executive president.
From the beginning Mr Erdogan's government has been deeply involved in the war in Syria, backing Islamist opposition to President Assad. But violence has spread across the border, helping to reignite the fight with the Kurdish PKK, and making Turkey a target for the jihadists who call themselves Islamic State. That has caused a lot of disquiet. Turkey has faced increasing turmoil and the attempt to overthrow President Erdogan will not be the last of it.
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Becsuse I was correct. The military did not take over Turkey and there is now a hard line fundamentalist regime. You wrongly assumed that I meant the coup would be successful. You assumed that becsuse you don't think.No, she's an imbecile. She was arguing that the military taking over Türkiye would result in an Islamic regime.Again you show what a moron you are.NATO has no business doing anything. Turkey wasn't attacked.
NATO should have an emergency meeting and immediately suspend Turkey's membership.
Turkey may be a strict Islamic nation by the end of the day.
The military is the guarantor of Ataturk's vision of a Western, secular democracy in Türkiye.
They must be popping champagne corks in the Pentagon!
Since coup failed, it turns out she was right.
Because she's an imbecile.
Becsuse I was correct. The military did not take over Turkey and there is now a hard line fundamentalist regime. You wrongly assumed that I meant the coup would be successful. You assumed that becsuse you don't think.No, she's an imbecile. She was arguing that the military taking over Türkiye would result in an Islamic regime.Again you show what a moron you are.NATO has no business doing anything. Turkey wasn't attacked.
NATO should have an emergency meeting and immediately suspend Turkey's membership.
Turkey may be a strict Islamic nation by the end of the day.
The military is the guarantor of Ataturk's vision of a Western, secular democracy in Türkiye.
They must be popping champagne corks in the Pentagon!
Since coup failed, it turns out she was right.
Because she's an imbecile.
How so?Well, I think this exposes Turkey's role in the creation of ISIS.
Aren't they supporting democracy?And here we have Obama and Merkel supporting the status quo.
How so?Well, I think this exposes Turkey's role in the creation of ISIS.
Aren't they supporting democracy?And here we have Obama and Merkel supporting the status quo.
Surprise...what?Surprise....
