Attacking Teslas

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Lol.. This coming from the same people that supported this:

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Question is, did he own that Bud Light?




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[Sherlock Holmes]

I don't care what they reduced... There is this thing called physics and the periodic table of the elements.

Internal resistance is an aspect of the physics of a battery, why would you not care about it?

Nobody is going to move that much energy that quickly without destroying everything it touches.

When you refill your car with gasoline say 20 gallons, do you know how much energy you have moved from the pump to your care in say three minutes?

It is about 20 * 37 KWh which is about 740 kWh - in a few minutes and people do that every day without any issues.

If somebody has come up with some new super element never heard of before from outside our galaxy produced in some soupanova somewhere a billion light years away, maybe then.

Why? what properties would this element need to have?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

We're not there yet... What you're seeing is less than 1/10 of 1% of the population making a lot of noise. If they ever tried to rise up in any serious way the other 99.9% of the population would freaking crush them into the ground.

Dictators eventually get overthrown, trump needs to bear this in mind.

 

[justoffal]

Internal resistance is an aspect of the physics of a battery, why would you not care about it?

When you refill your car with gasoline say 20 gallons, do you know how much energy you have moved from the pump to your care in say three minutes?

It is about 20 * 37 KWh which is about 740 kWh - in a few minutes and people do that every day without any issues.

Why? what properties would this element need to have?

The ability not to melt... Refilling with liquid gasoline is not moving energy it's moving mass. The energy is not apparent until the internal combustion engine releases it.
Not the same thing at all when you're moving electricity. The charging leads on the 600 volt DC machines are already at 8 gauge.... The damn charging leads they're talking about would have to weigh 100 lbs or they would have to use such a high voltage that anyone would be stupid to pick that thing up.

What activities do people engage in on a daily basis that consume nearly one megawatt in a few minutes?

 

[marvin martian]

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Question is, did he own that Bud Light?




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Imagine being so dumb, you're unable to make that distinction. Poor JLW

 

[Zincwarrior]

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Musk-hating hackers release names and addresses of every Tesla owner in the US with chilling symbol​

Musk-hating hackers release names and addresses of Tesla owners

Elon Musk-hating hackers have reportedly doxxed every Tesla owner in the United States, releasing an interactive map showing their names, addresses, phone numbers and emails.

www.dailymail.co.uk

symbol.html

Now what gets me is:
1. Where did they get the information? Is Tesla keeping tabs on buyers?
2. This is uncool. The NYT did this to legal gun owners in NYC once IIRC.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'm an electrical engineer but don't know much detail about these kinds of EV batteries.

You -do- know 1MW is 1000V @ 1000A right?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Lol....yeah ... Read that already.
You're going to end up finding out that Musk iisjust having a party pulling in all the cheap shares.

Why does Musk care about firing federal workers? He's worth an insane amount of money yet chooses to run around jumping up and down with a toy chain saw and doing Hitler salutes and supporting the German far right to doing any of the things a normal person would do.

Imagine you won 100 billion on the lottery, would you wake up and say "Wow, that's huge man, now I can do what I always wanted to do, fire people and shutdown government projects and organizations". Let's be clear nobody NOBODY would care about that if they had that much money, they'd be able to do so so many other interesting things.

This should worry every person in the country but magats are so vacant they merrily cheer him on as of he's some kind of savior, out to help them - fucking idiots.

He's also not managing Tesla, he isn't there and the company need a CEO to function well.

 

[buckeye]

Where did they get the information? Is Tesla keeping tabs on buyers?

ALL car companies keep tabs on buyers. Have you never bought a new car?

 

[struth]

Dictators eventually get overthrown, trump needs to bear this in mind.

Um, he did, that's why Xiden, Harris and the demafacsit lost bigly, and your party has a 21 percent favorable rating, and Americans are happy again.

 

[marvin martian]

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Musk-hating hackers release names and addresses of every Tesla owner in the US with chilling symbol​

Musk-hating hackers release names and addresses of Tesla owners

Elon Musk-hating hackers have reportedly doxxed every Tesla owner in the United States, releasing an interactive map showing their names, addresses, phone numbers and emails.

www.dailymail.co.uk

symbol.html

Now what gets me is:
1. Where did they get the information? Is Tesla keeping tabs on buyers?
2. This is uncool. The NYT did this to legal gun owners in NYC once IIRC.

How long is your party going to let this domestic terrorism go on until they call it out?

And are you really asking whether car dealerships keep records of their sales? Even you're not that stupid.

 

[justoffal]

Why does Musk care about firing federal workers? He's worth an insane amount of money yet chooses to run around jumping up and down with a toy chain saw to doing any of the things a normal person would do.

Imagine you won 100 billion on the lottery, would you wake up and say "Wow, that's huge man, now I can do what I always wanted to do, fire people and shutdown government projects and organizations".

He's also not managing Tesla, he isn't there and the company need a CEO to function well.

I don't claim to fully understand the man... clearly he's driven by some higher form of compulsion that I simply don't relate to.

I don't think he's much different than any other highly leveraged CEO... It's just the kind of thing that they do.

I can relate somewhat to what you're saying and I don't particularly approve of all of his actions. I will say though that if somebody doesn't reign in the government it will simply collapse on its own.

 

[justoffal]

ALL car companies keep tabs on buyers. Have you never bought a new car?

Every time I pull up to my house my leaf connects to my Wi-Fi and uploads all of the information to Nissan. I don't even have to tell the dealer how many miles are on my odometer because they already know.

 

[marvin martian]

Every time I pull up to my house my leaf connects to my Wi-Fi and uploads all of the information to Nissan. I don't even have to tell the dealer how many miles are on my odometer because they already know.

Someone told the retards like Zincwarrior that only Tesla does this, and he dutifully ran out to spread the gospel.

 

[buckeye]

Every time I pull up to my house my leaf connects to my Wi-Fi and uploads all of the information to Nissan. I don't even have to tell the dealer how many miles are on my odometer because they already know.

I know, it's freaky. I have a 21 Rogue that does the same thing.

 

[dudmuck]

Internal resistance is an aspect of the physics of a battery, why would you not care about it?

When you refill your car with gasoline say 20 gallons, do you know how much energy you have moved from the pump to your care in say three minutes?

It is about 20 * 37 KWh which is about 740 kWh - in a few minutes and people do that every day without any issues.

Why? what properties would this element need to have?

One US gallon of gasoline contains roughly 115,000 BTU (British Thermal Units), which translates to about 33.7 kWh

my own car gets four miles distance from one kilowatt-hour of electricity.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The ability not to melt... Refilling with liquid gasoline is not moving energy it's moving mass.

I suggest you either stop now or go and educate yourself. The energy in gasoline - like the energy in a battery - is termed "potential energy" and it is the potential energy that is moved whether it be stored in the form of molecular bonds which can combust or in the form of molecular bonds that can liberate electrons.

The energy is not apparent until the internal combustion engine releases it.

Yes, that's why we call it potential energy.

Not the same thing at all when you're moving electricity. The charging leads on the 600 volt DC machines are already at 8 gauge.... The damn charging leads they're talking about would have to weigh 100 lbs or they would have to use such a high voltage that anyone would be stupid to pick that thing up.

Explain your reasoning, examples, materials, numbers...

What activities do people engage in on a daily basis that consume nearly one megawatt in a few minutes?

None and we were not talking about energy dissipation or conversion but of energy movement.

Bear in mind this firm is saying they can charge twice as fast as Tesla's fastest charging options, that's all.

 

[justoffal]

One US gallon of gasoline contains roughly 115,000 BTU (British Thermal Units), which translates to about 33.7 kWh

my own car gets four miles distance from one kilowatt-hour of electricity.

Yes but moving the liquid does not release the energy It only moves the mass. To release the energy you have to combust it. The best ICE these days will get about 35%. Anytime you approach 60% You're approaching the heat limit of the materials that the engine is made of.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Everyone is missing the point. Left loons are basically being terrorists because they don't get their way

 

[justoffal]

I suggest you either stop now or go and educate yourself. The energy in gasoline - like the energy in a battery - is termed "potential energy" and it is the potential energy that is moved whether it be stored in the form of molecular bonds which can combust or in the form of molecular bonds that can liberate electrons.

Yes, that's why we call it potential energy.

Explain your reasoning, examples, materials, numbers...

None and we were not talking about energy dissipation or conversion but of energy movement.

Bear in mind this firm is saying they can charge twice as fast as Tesla's fastest charging options, that's all.

Unless you move that energy at a very high voltage you're going to melt everything it moves through. High voltage movement of electricity into a storage destroys the storage.

I don't need to review materials or capacities or anything else to know automatically that what this company is talking about has no future.

Once again filling your tank with gasoline that has potential energy is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Electricity does not move in mass the same way. When you're moving that at high amperage you tend to melt whatever you're moving it through. How do I know this?

40 years in the energy distribution industry.

So please do tell me what activities people engage in on a daily basis that consume nearly one megawatt in a few minutes ...I can't wait to hear what it is.