Zone1 Atheists have nothing to say against faith in God

[rightwinger]

I'd rather define what a militant atheist is for you. Because I'm not keen on wasting my time trying to convince a fly that honey tastes better than shit. I'm happy enough for the fly to keep eating shit.

No such thing as as a “militant atheist”
Just because we have heard your fairy tales and realised they make no sense?

 

[Cougarbear]

I believe that you accept superstitious hokus-pokus and you consider evidence to the contrary as being a diversion.

What do you believe? Not what I believe. What do you believe?

 

[Cougarbear]

Whatever are you going on about here? It's puzzling. Are you trying to make a point?

God lives!

 

[Cougarbear]

I certainly don't.

I think that's the case for most atheists.

There's an awful lot of you in debate forums and Facebook that do!

 

[Dante]

God lives!

In the minds of some people yes, but what god?

"You don't believe in 2,999 Gods, and I don't believe in just one more" - Ricky G.

 

[Chuz Life]

A single cell organism is "living"

My science?

"Child" is not a scientific term

 

[Dante]

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noun: offspring; plural noun: offspring

1) a person's child or children.
2) an animal's young.

ALREADY BORN - ALL

 

[Dante]

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please stop attempting to convince people you are educated on the subject, let alone intelligent enough to actually persuade people that you posses facts and truth

 

[DukeU]

How can I prove that a fantasy of yours does not exist?
You will cling to your fantasy

I just choose not to believe something for which there is no proof

Do you believe in love?

 

[Chuz Life]

please stop attempting to convince people you are educated on the subject, let alone intelligent enough to actually persuade people that you posses facts and truth

So, to this claim: "noun: offspring; plural noun: offspring...

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[ding]

Nobody has "elevated science into a religion" That is a narrative that is spun from people who engage in debates before crowds.

I can think of four areas that SOME have elevated science to a religion; evolution, AGW, denial of when life begins and denial of the big bang. It's literally a dogmatic belief. They don't know jack shit about it.

Religious people have been fighting against scientific discoveries since science was first made public.

Georges Lemaître father of the big bang, Gregor Mendel the father of modern genetics and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin world renowned paleontologist would tell you that that is not accurate.

Of course members of the "Church" were scientists and there's a long history of that with arguments about who said what, who believed what, etc .. but none of hat negates the facts about Religious People Attacking Science

I think by any objective measure contributions to science by religious persons far outweighs any perceived attacks against science. But let's find out...

Religious figures have historically driven major scientific advancements, viewing the study of nature as a way to understand creation. Key accomplishments include Gregor Mendel founding genetics, Georges Lemaître proposing the Big Bang theory, and Nicolaus Copernicus formulating the heliocentric model. Other contributors include Isaac Newton, Johannes Kepler, and Roger Bacon.
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Key Scientific Accomplishments by Religious Individuals

• Genetics & Biology: Gregor Mendel, an Augustinian friar, established the laws of inheritance through pea plant experiments, becoming the father of modern genetics.
• Cosmology & Astronomy: Georges Lemaître, a Catholic priest, proposed the Big Bang theory, establishing that the universe had a beginning. Nicolaus Copernicus, a Church official, discovered the Earth revolves around the sun.
• Physics & Mechanics: Isaac Newton developed laws of gravity and motion. Galileo Galilei made groundbreaking telescopic observations. Arthur Compton, a deacon, discovered the photon.
• Mathematics & Philosophy: René Descartes developed analytic geometry. Blaise Pascal made foundational contributions to probability theory and pressure.
• Geology & Anatomy: Nicolas Steno, a Lutheran who converted to Catholicism, pioneered modern geology and anatomy. Albert the Great made early discoveries in botany and zoology.
• Technology: Guglielmo Marconi developed long-distance wireless telegraphy. Andrew Gordon, a Scottish monk, invented the electric motor.
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Diverse Religious Contributions

• Islamic Golden Age: Scholars made vital contributions to algebra, algorithms, medicine, and optics. They calculated the Earth's diameter and explained eclipses.
• Jewish Tradition: Talmudic scholars used detailed astronomical calculations to determine the Jewish calendar.
• Hinduism: Ancient texts are often cited as prefiguring modern concepts, while contemporary Hindus often view science and faith as complementary.
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Many of these, such as Johannes Kepler, saw their work as a form of worship, thanking God for allowing them to see the beauty of creation.


Your turn...

 

[ding]

No such thing as as a “militant atheist”
Just because we have heard your fairy tales and realised they make no sense?

If you condemn respect for people because they believe in God - which you do with your intentionally disrespectful language - then you are indeed a militant atheist. Your counterparts would be racist southerners who disrespected blacks and racist Germans who disrespected Jews. But instead of disrespecting a class of people based upon ethnicity, you choose to disrespect a class of people based upon creed. I mean I really wish I could meet your kind in person.

 

[ding]

Define "child" and off you go.

A stage in the human life cycle that begins at conception and ends at death. Every stage along the continuum is fully human and possesses the appropriate human attributes for that stage.

Would you like for me to define person?

 

[ding]

I'm neither religious nor an atheist so I thought I would check this out.

Both sides exhibit blind faith.

I think that is objectively true.

Thus, I remain agnostic.

That seems like a poor reason to be agnostic IMO. Wouldn't the traditional agnostic belief that the existence of God is unknowable one way or the other be a more reasonable reason to be agnostic?

Faith is having complete trust in something or someone. I never put complete trust in something or someone without good reason. So, objectively, I have to disagree with your blind faith blanket observation. I do not blindly believe in God. I have very good reasons to believe in God.

 

[Cougarbear]

In the minds of some people yes, but what god?

"You don't believe in 2,999 Gods, and I don't believe in just one more" - Ricky G.

The only Godhead of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost

 

[Dante]

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So, to this claim: "noun: offspring; plural noun: offspring...

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Wrong again...

 

[Dante]

Georges Lemaître father of the big bang, Gregor Mendel the father of modern genetics and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin world renowned paleontologist would tell you that that is not accurate.

You're not a serious poster. Why?

reading and comprehension:

"Of course members of the "Church" were scientists and there's a long history of that with arguments about who said what, who believed what, etc .. but none of that negates the facts about Religious People Attacking Science "

 

[Dante]

A stage in the human life cycle that begins at conception and ends at death. Every stage along the continuum is fully human and possesses the appropriate human attributes for that stage.

Would you like for me to define person?

Damn, where are their inalienable and civil rights?

 

[Chuz Life]

That seems like a poor reason to be agnostic IMO. Wouldn't the traditional agnostic belief that the existence of God is unknowable one way or the other be a more reasonable reason to be agnostic?

Faith is having complete trust in something or someone. I never put complete trust in something or someone without good reason. So, objectively, I have to disagree with your blind faith blanket observation. I do not blindly believe in God. I have very good reasons to believe in God.

That was just a comment.

Just a generalization.

I don't claim that is my sole reason for being agnostic.

Also, I don't hold the view that it's unknowable, either.

I simply haven't found any convincing evidence. Proof as it were.

 

[rightwinger]

Do you believe in love?

Of course