Thank you JoeB131 for replying, I enjoyed reading your reply. I do understand what you are saying
You state that there were no Kings ruling Israel in the days of Jephthah.
therefore, Jephthah was misguided { HAVING NO KING }
he then murdered his daughter - because he did not have a king, he just did whatever he believed was right in his own eyes.
However, none of these passages mentioning the absence of a King. None of them are EVER referring to the absence of morality and wrongdoings and transgressions, sins and perverted acts of some of the Jews.
Trinitarians portray the image that is suggesting that because there was no King in Israel that somehow the Israelites getting away with sinning and committing evil acts, due to the fact that there is no King in Israel
But the fact is, there were no Kings reigning Israel at any time before Jephthah. Jephthah himself was elected and chosen to be as a Judge of Israel because he was a righteous, holy and honorable man.
Jdg 12:7 Jephthah judged Israel - for six years.
Jdg 12:8 Ibzan judged Israel - seven years.
Jdg 12:11 Elon judged Israel - ten years.
Jdg 12:13 Abdon judged Israel - eight years.
Jdg 15:20 Samson judged Israel - twenty years.
And there were no Kings, 50 to 70 years after Jephthah. Here are the list of the Judges of Israel.
1. Othniel - 2. Ehud - 3. Shamgar - 4. Deborah - 5. Gideon - 6. Abimelech - 7. Tola - 8. Jair - 9. Jephthah - 10. Ibzan - 11. Elon - 12. Abdon - 13. Samson - 14. Eli - 15. Samuel
BUT, the fact that Israel - now has kings reigning, this does not mean that sin, wickedness and evil and wrongdoings have ceased or diminished in Israel or that anything is any different regarding morality. This has nothing to do with what the manuscripts are saying.
You claim that the passages of the bible saying that
“ in those days, when there was no king in Israel “ Is mentioned in the context within the Book of Judges that is explaining that “ because Israel did not have a king, there was great wickedness in the land. “
But let’s look at these passages and see exactly what they are saying.
Jdg_17:6 In those days there was no king in Israel, every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
But this has absolutely nothing to do with the people doing right or wrong in their own views or eyes concerning a moral code of conduct or acts of wickedness or ethical behaviors. But every single last time that this phrase is repeated - the passage is simply referring to land ownerships, the dividing lines of property between the tribal families and the encroachments and intrusions into foreign territory and foreign lands
Every single time that you see the phrase - “ in these days, there was no king in Israel “
This is always, without exception being directly used - in every single last one of these verses, in the precise context of explaining in the proceeding storyline - how that these individuals who were living in Israel, were existing, traveling and crossing through regions as strangers, aliens and living as foreigners in a land.
Because there was no king to divide the land and set boundaries, borders and protect the Jews from non-Israelites and half breeds and other invaders who would not respect the rights of the Israelites,
The manuscripts explain that - In those days, when there was no king in Israel, CAUSING / THAT REQUIRED.... a certain Levite to travel where he was sojourning as a “ - gêr / stranger “
Again - Jdg 17:6 In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes. :8 And a man departed out of the city from Bethlehemjudah to sojourn as a “ - gêr / stranger “ where he could find a place for himself to live in. He had no place to call home, he was a sojourning “ - gêr / stranger “ looking for a place to live.
:9 And Micah said unto him, where do you come from ? And he said unto him, I am a Levite of Bethlehemjudah, and I go as a “ - gêr / stranger “ where I may find a place to live.
He was wandering and looking for a location to live along the borders and did not know where to settle down because their lands and properties had not yet been legally divided and given unto them among the tribes of Israel.
Again - Jdg 18:1 In those days there was no king in Israel: and in those days the tribe of the Danites sought them an inheritance to dwell in; for unto that day all their inheritance had not fallen unto them among the tribes of Israel.
Again - “ there was no king in Israel “ the Danites are searching and seeking, looking for themselves an inheritance or a location to dwell in; all their inheritance, their lands and properties, and belongings had not yet been legally divided and given unto them among the tribes of Israel.
there are four verses total in the bible that have this phrase " there was no king in Israel "
The last one occurs during a great war where Israel is taking vengeance upon unknown men who appear to be non-Israelites who had raped and killed a man’s wife.
Benjamin refuses to or is unable to identify and hand over these men probably because they do not know who exactly who the individuals are and Israel goes to war against Benjamin because Benjamin is not concerned or interested in helping to locate and punish these rapist murdering thugs.
Jdg 21 - again uses this phrase “ " In those days there was no king in Israel "
But it has absolutely nothing to do with morality or doing wicked or wrong - doing. Because no one was doing anything wrong. The context of the phrase is based upon the verses saying :6 And the children of Israel were sorry for Benjamin their brother, and said, There is one tribe cut off from Israel this day.
:17 And they said, There must be an inheritance for them that be escaped of Benjamin, that a tribe be not destroyed out of Israel.
:24 And the children of Israel departed thence at that time, every man to his tribe and to his family, and they went out from thence every man to his inheritance.
Jdg 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Trinitarians assume and pretend that something was going on in the chapter pertaining to immorality.
No one was ever acting Immoral or wicked concerning the reference of the passages saying " In those days there was no king in Israel: "
Every single last time this is mentioned - without exception it is always referring to
their lands and properties, and belongings had not yet been legally divided and given unto them among the tribes of Israel.
unless you are reading from a Trinitarian mistranslation.
Trinitarians simply have absolutely no manuscripts for their faith.
This Hebrew word “ עולה׃ “ is not = “ A BURNT OFFERING “
Trinitarians will not find a single place in the entire Hebrew manuscripts showing where the Hebrew word “ עולה׃ “ is pertaining to a burnt offering or blood sacrifice.
It always means - in the manuscript wickedness, immorality and iniquity.
Also - this Hebrew word " חֹק " chôq is translated in the Trinitarian Translation as ORDINANCE / statute / law a total of 125 times
two times the Trinitarians change it to mean custom. -
There is a Hebrew word that literally means custom and it is not " חֹק " however it was a custom the Hebrew word - מִשְׁפָּט - mishpâṭ - would have been used,
This is called fantasy drift - Trinitarians need words to mean something other that what they mean in Hebrew - so they run through passages altering specific words to invent the message they want instead of translating exactly as it is in the original.
Please provide a single instance where this Hebrew word “ עולה׃ “ is indicating a burnt offering in your translation - it does not exist in your translation or the manuscript, except only in Jdg 11::31 - the Trinitarians delete the word and alter the passage and change it to say burnt offering.
every single last time it is used - the Trinitarians always translate it as wickedness, immorality and iniquity.
In fact, it is the Trinitarians who change the bible to render what is right in their own eyes.
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