danielpalos
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You are speaking about the value of contraceptives. Meanwhile, the Church teaches the value of life, how life is our greatest gift and as such should be revered.An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Better contraceptives at lower cost!
Yes! I was born into and brought up in the Catholic faith and only went to Catholic schools before college so how come I ended up a Marxist?Does anyone have any questions or concerns about the Catholic faith?
You ended up a Marxist because you favor communism over capitalism. For some reason you believe people who have must be forced, by big government, into giving what they worked for to others.Yes! I was born into and brought up in the Catholic faith and only went to Catholic schools before college so how come I ended up a Marxist?
To help reduce any perceived need for aborting a potential, fellow human being. Right-wingers seem to merely practice the abomination of hypocrisy in border threads.You are speaking about the value of contraceptives. Meanwhile, the Church teaches the value of life, how life is our greatest gift and as such should be revered.
As a society (and as a Church) we must understand these are two different topics.
The problem with any emotional topic such as abortion is not hypocrisy from either side, it is the failure from both to adhere to the specific issue. Let's take divorce for example, especially 'no fault divorce'. Someone starts a thread on why people should stay married. It is almost immediately taken off the topic of encouraging people to remain married over divorcing by all the what ifs: What if someone is being physically abused, then emotionally abused, or just isn't happy. Should someone have to be unhappy until one spouse dies.To help reduce any perceived need for aborting a potential, fellow human being. Right-wingers seem to merely practice the abomination of hypocrisy in border threads.
Are there no exceptions to any rules?The problem with any emotional topic such as abortion is not hypocrisy from either side, it is the failure from both to adhere to the specific issue. Let's take divorce for example, especially 'no fault divorce'. Someone starts a thread on why people should stay married. It is almost immediately taken off the topic of encouraging people to remain married over divorcing by all the what ifs: What if someone is being physically abused, then emotionally abused, or just isn't happy. Should someone have to be unhappy until one spouse dies.
In the US, approximately half of all marriages end in divorce. What are the positive factors in remaining married? Why should we push favoring marriage vows over divorce? And....What are the chances that such a discussion would almost immediately turn into all the reasons for favoring current divorce mores? Same with any emotional topic, really. Try starting a thread on reasons why people should favor life over abortion. Want to bet almost immediately someone brings up pregnancy caused by rape or incest?
People feel one exception scores a win over the entire issue. And all before reasons for choosing life ever get a scant toe-hold.
Because there are exceptions, everyone believes they and their reason fits into the exceptions category. The exception for physical abuse grows to include emotional abuse which grows to include "but I'm just not happy any more".Are there no exceptions to any rules?
I went to a private Catholic parochial elementary school. I think the stations of the cross were the most painful. My question is do you think the Catholics still need "seven" sacraments? Have they changed over the years? If so, what are they now?Does anyone have any questions or concerns about the Catholic faith?
The seven sacraments, passed on by the Apostles, are founded on the life of Christ and his teachings.I went to a private Catholic parochial elementary school. I think the stations of the cross were the most painful. My question is do you think the Catholics still need "seven" sacraments? Have they changed over the years? If so, what are they now?
I haven't studied Catholicism since elementary school. I'm Christian since 2012, so fairly new to Christianity. I think baptism, communion, having the Holy Spirit in your life, having Jesus in your heart (remembrance for what he did) and worshiping God is what's required, i.e. we don't have seven sacraments. I never became Catholic because I couldn't attend church every week and it was a venial sin. I think Catholic kids end up with a lot of rules and regulations and are some of the worse kids early on. Sure, eventually they and myself have learned.The seven sacraments, passed on by the Apostles, are founded on the life of Christ and his teachings.
1. Jesus was baptized and commanded baptism.
2. Jesus announced the forgiveness of sins
3. Jesus instituted The Last Supper
4. Jesus gathered the Twelve (a special priesthood) around him
5. Jesus taught that marriage was between a man and a woman and a lifetime commitment.
6. Jesus healed the sick and the dying.
7. Jesus announced the advent of the Holy Spirit into our lives.
Jesus' life does not change over the years. He did what he did, said what he said. Which part of Jesus' life and teachings deserves elimination, even after two thousand years?
It is only a venial sin if you could have attended Sunday Mass but decided not to. Children are not expected to get themselves to Mass, so no sin there. What rules and regulations so you mean?I haven't studied Catholicism since elementary school. I'm Christian since 2012, so fairly new to Christianity. I think baptism, communion, having the Holy Spirit in your life, having Jesus in your heart (remembrance for what he did) and worshiping God is what's required, i.e. we don't have seven sacraments. I never became Catholic because I couldn't attend church every week and it was a venial sin. I think Catholic kids end up with a lot of rules and regulations and are some of the worse kids early on. Sure, eventually they and myself have learned.
I think Catholicism is the most strict while other Christian religions do not seem to have the same Jesus' rules.
ETA: What is the significance of twelve apostles in #4?
I didn't know that back then. I thought it was a venial sin for missing a mass. Remember one sister saying that.It is only a venial sin if you could have attended Sunday Mass but decided not to. Children are not expected to get themselves to Mass, so no sin there. What rules and regulations so you mean?
The Sacrament of Holy Orders (becoming a Catholic priest) follows the way of Jesus selecting the Twelve for special service to God and man.
Is it really necessary to believe in things like virgin birth, resurrection, and saints performing miracles in order to be considered Catholic?Does anyone have any questions or concerns about the Catholic faith?
Not just Catholic, but as Christians, we believe the resurrection in order to recognize and understand the power of God. It means you believe in Jesus as our savior as well as his father creating life. Only he who created life have the power to resurrect it. From there, humans sinned so God created a way for us to be saved. Are there other parts of the resurrection that I am missing? Do Catholics believe other miracles also happened before and after the resurrection?Is it really necessary to believe in things like virgin birth, resurrection, and saints performing miracles in order to be considered Catholic?
Those who use only modern English translations of scripture as the word of God, naturally will reach these conclusions. Catholics are rooted in Apostolic tradition, which means going back to the Aramaic, Greek, and Latin languages. Words that the English translate as brother, may be more accurately translated as 'kin'. Kin, of course, can mean brother/sister--but it is not limited to that. Catholics accept this.Another difference may be the immaculate conception versus a virgin birth. Mary was a virgin when she gave normal human birth to Jesus and after, but she didn't remain a virgin as she gave birth to other children with Joseph. The virgin birth was a miracle. The immaculate conception is a Catholic attribute accorded to Mary such as she was sinless. That wasn't true as Mary had original sin and had committed other sins.
The resurrection and virgin birth, yes. Saints performing miracles, no, but it is interesting to note that Jesus said others would perform miracles greater than the ones he performed.Is it really necessary to believe in things like virgin birth, resurrection, and saints performing miracles in order to be considered Catholic?
We know she had original sin and was human. Thus, she committed other sins. Otherwise, why would she need God's grace (love, benevolence, mercy)?Neither scripture nor tradition offers any description of "other sins", so I am unclear where you came up with that.
Can you give a brief explanation of the immaculate conception?Those who use only modern English translations of scripture as the word of God, naturally will reach these conclusions. Catholics are rooted in Apostolic tradition, which means going back to the Aramaic, Greek, and Latin languages. Words that the English translate as brother, may be more accurately translated as 'kin'. Kin, of course, can mean brother/sister--but it is not limited to that. Catholics accept this.
The story of the Immaculate Conception is a long a beautiful one. It starts with the Gospel telling us that Mary was highly favored; filled with grace. Can Original Sin enter when one is filled with grace? Non-Catholics do not credit Mary's later appearances, one to a young peasant girl, whom she introduced herself as the Immaculate Conception. Neither scripture nor tradition offers any description of "other sins", so I am unclear where you came up with that.