Asia's Governments Talk As Desperate Rohingyas Wait At Sea

[Vikrant]

Four people were killed when hundreds of Rohingya Muslims rioted in a Buddhist community in Myanmar on Friday, a government official said, as communal tensions boil over in troubled Rakhine state.

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They hurled rocks and torched houses and buildings, witnesses told Reuters by telephone.

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Four killed as Rohingya Muslims riot in Myanmar government Reuters

 

[Coyote]

Four people were killed when hundreds of Rohingya Muslims rioted in a Buddhist community in Myanmar on Friday, a government official said, as communal tensions boil over in troubled Rakhine state.

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They hurled rocks and torched houses and buildings, witnesses told Reuters by telephone.

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Four killed as Rohingya Muslims riot in Myanmar government Reuters

From your article:

A Rohingya politician and an activist, citing local sources, said the riots erupted after security forces had opened fire on Rohingyas and several of them were killed.

The accounts provided by sources contacted by Reuters could not be immediately verified.

State MRTV made no mention of the unrest in its nighttime news bulletin but reported a curfew had been imposed in Maungdaw and Buthidaung in Rakhine state. Both are dominated by Rohingyas.

The riots came five days after 10 Muslims, who were not Rohingyas, were killed by Buddhist vigilantes who intercepted the bus they were travelling on in Rakhine's Taunggoke town, an incident that angered Muslims and led to a rare protest in Myanmar's biggest city, Yangon.

The attack followed the distribution of leaflets in Rakhine calling for retribution for the gang rape and killing of a young Buddhist woman several days earlier.

Doesn't sound like the Rohinga protest or riot much.

 

[Vikrant]

Four people were killed when hundreds of Rohingya Muslims rioted in a Buddhist community in Myanmar on Friday, a government official said, as communal tensions boil over in troubled Rakhine state.

...

They hurled rocks and torched houses and buildings, witnesses told Reuters by telephone.

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Four killed as Rohingya Muslims riot in Myanmar government Reuters

From your article:

A Rohingya politician and an activist, citing local sources, said the riots erupted after security forces had opened fire on Rohingyas and several of them were killed.

The accounts provided by sources contacted by Reuters could not be immediately verified.

State MRTV made no mention of the unrest in its nighttime news bulletin but reported a curfew had been imposed in Maungdaw and Buthidaung in Rakhine state. Both are dominated by Rohingyas.

The riots came five days after 10 Muslims, who were not Rohingyas, were killed by Buddhist vigilantes who intercepted the bus they were travelling on in Rakhine's Taunggoke town, an incident that angered Muslims and led to a rare protest in Myanmar's biggest city, Yangon.

The attack followed the distribution of leaflets in Rakhine calling for retribution for the gang rape and killing of a young Buddhist woman several days earlier.

Doesn't sound like the Rohinga protest or riot much.

There is no justification for riots. If Rohingyas have excuse to kill Buddhists then so do Buddhists.

 

[Coyote]

Look at the extent of the violence the Buddhists committed on the Rohinga.

Look at what preceded the riots.

Do you really think this is so excusable?

 

[Vikrant]

Below is another view point. On internet, you will find websites that support all sorts of views.

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Even the Rohingya Muslims’ own native country of Bangladesh won’t take them back and have turned their boats around when they have tried to land there in the past. (See links below)

Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, confirmed Thursday that none of the more than 8,000 Rohingya refugees caught in a weeks-long standoff at sea will be resettled in Australia. Thailand has said the same as they enough problems with their violent Muslim population there as it is. An estimated 6,000 Rohingya Muslims from Myanmar have been left abandoned as several other countries in Southeast Asia have also turned away boats carrying hundreds. The reason Muslims are being pushed out of Myanmar is because of all the violence, rape, and crime they have inflicted on the Buddhists there.

Why Australia and Thailand refuse to take in any Rohingya Muslim illegal aliens from Myanmar Burma BARE NAKED ISLAM

 

[Vikrant]

Look at the extent of the violence the Buddhists committed on the Rohinga.

Look at what preceded the riots.

Do you really think this is so excusable?

Nope. What I find bizarre is that you are so readily willing to excuse Rohingyas and blame Buddhists.

 

[Coyote]

Look at the extent of the violence the Buddhists committed on the Rohinga.

Look at what preceded the riots.

Do you really think this is so excusable?

Nope. What I find bizarre is that you are so readily willing to excuse Rohingyas and blame Buddhists.

The Rohinga's have a long and well documented history of persecution by the Buddhist majority, particularly the nationalists. I've posted that. Human rights organizations have documented atrocities, ethnic cleansing and mass graves.

All you posted was a minor riot that did not even involve the loss of life, after 10 Rohinga men were pulled off a bus and murdered.

How does that begin to compare with what is being done to them? You seem to think this is justified. I truly do not get it.

 

[Coyote]

Below is another view point. On internet, you will find websites that support all sorts of views.

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Even the Rohingya Muslims’ own native country of Bangladesh won’t take them back and have turned their boats around when they have tried to land there in the past. (See links below)

Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, confirmed Thursday that none of the more than 8,000 Rohingya refugees caught in a weeks-long standoff at sea will be resettled in Australia. Thailand has said the same as they enough problems with their violent Muslim population there as it is. An estimated 6,000 Rohingya Muslims from Myanmar have been left abandoned as several other countries in Southeast Asia have also turned away boats carrying hundreds. The reason Muslims are being pushed out of Myanmar is because of all the violence, rape, and crime they have inflicted on the Buddhists there.

Why Australia and Thailand refuse to take in any Rohingya Muslim illegal aliens from Myanmar Burma BARE NAKED ISLAM

All the violence, rape and crime? Or is this deliberate demonization by the Myanmar government?


"Hate speech was widely disseminated during this time in the form of anti-Rohingya pamphlets and numerous public statements demonizing the Rohingya and calling for their removal from the country"

BareNakedIslam is not exactly a reputable source.

 

[Vikrant]

Below is another view point. On internet, you will find websites that support all sorts of views.

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Even the Rohingya Muslims’ own native country of Bangladesh won’t take them back and have turned their boats around when they have tried to land there in the past. (See links below)

Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, confirmed Thursday that none of the more than 8,000 Rohingya refugees caught in a weeks-long standoff at sea will be resettled in Australia. Thailand has said the same as they enough problems with their violent Muslim population there as it is. An estimated 6,000 Rohingya Muslims from Myanmar have been left abandoned as several other countries in Southeast Asia have also turned away boats carrying hundreds. The reason Muslims are being pushed out of Myanmar is because of all the violence, rape, and crime they have inflicted on the Buddhists there.

Why Australia and Thailand refuse to take in any Rohingya Muslim illegal aliens from Myanmar Burma BARE NAKED ISLAM

All the violence, rape and crime? Or is this deliberate demonization by the Myanmar government?


"Hate speech was widely disseminated during this time in the form of anti-Rohingya pamphlets and numerous public statements demonizing the Rohingya and calling for their removal from the country"

BareNakedIslam is not exactly a reputable source.

There is nothing reputable. Every news source or blog or website has agenda.

 

[Coyote]

Below is another view point. On internet, you will find websites that support all sorts of views.

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Even the Rohingya Muslims’ own native country of Bangladesh won’t take them back and have turned their boats around when they have tried to land there in the past. (See links below)

Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, confirmed Thursday that none of the more than 8,000 Rohingya refugees caught in a weeks-long standoff at sea will be resettled in Australia. Thailand has said the same as they enough problems with their violent Muslim population there as it is. An estimated 6,000 Rohingya Muslims from Myanmar have been left abandoned as several other countries in Southeast Asia have also turned away boats carrying hundreds. The reason Muslims are being pushed out of Myanmar is because of all the violence, rape, and crime they have inflicted on the Buddhists there.

Why Australia and Thailand refuse to take in any Rohingya Muslim illegal aliens from Myanmar Burma BARE NAKED ISLAM

All the violence, rape and crime? Or is this deliberate demonization by the Myanmar government?


"Hate speech was widely disseminated during this time in the form of anti-Rohingya pamphlets and numerous public statements demonizing the Rohingya and calling for their removal from the country"

BareNakedIslam is not exactly a reputable source.

There is nothing reputable. Every news source or blog or website has agenda.

Everything has a bias - but there are differing degrees of bias, accuracy and accountability. Surely you know this. There are sites that are well known as hate sites or heavily biased. Would you take such a site as Storm Front seriously?

 

[Vikrant]

Below is another view point. On internet, you will find websites that support all sorts of views.

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Even the Rohingya Muslims’ own native country of Bangladesh won’t take them back and have turned their boats around when they have tried to land there in the past. (See links below)

Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, confirmed Thursday that none of the more than 8,000 Rohingya refugees caught in a weeks-long standoff at sea will be resettled in Australia. Thailand has said the same as they enough problems with their violent Muslim population there as it is. An estimated 6,000 Rohingya Muslims from Myanmar have been left abandoned as several other countries in Southeast Asia have also turned away boats carrying hundreds. The reason Muslims are being pushed out of Myanmar is because of all the violence, rape, and crime they have inflicted on the Buddhists there.

Why Australia and Thailand refuse to take in any Rohingya Muslim illegal aliens from Myanmar Burma BARE NAKED ISLAM

All the violence, rape and crime? Or is this deliberate demonization by the Myanmar government?


"Hate speech was widely disseminated during this time in the form of anti-Rohingya pamphlets and numerous public statements demonizing the Rohingya and calling for their removal from the country"

BareNakedIslam is not exactly a reputable source.

There is nothing reputable. Every news source or blog or website has agenda.

Everything has a bias - but there are differing degrees of bias, accuracy and accountability. Surely you know this. There are sites that are well known as hate sites or heavily biased. Would you take such a site as Storm Front seriously?

I will not take anybody seriously who thinks Rohingyas are innocent and Buddhists are all bad. Western countries have their own agenda against Myanmar and Buddhist people. So I tend to not trust western coverage on Myanmar or Buddhist people. Besides, I have lived in North-East India and I have seen Rohingyas first hand.

 

[Coyote]

Below is another view point. On internet, you will find websites that support all sorts of views.

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Even the Rohingya Muslims’ own native country of Bangladesh won’t take them back and have turned their boats around when they have tried to land there in the past. (See links below)

Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, confirmed Thursday that none of the more than 8,000 Rohingya refugees caught in a weeks-long standoff at sea will be resettled in Australia. Thailand has said the same as they enough problems with their violent Muslim population there as it is. An estimated 6,000 Rohingya Muslims from Myanmar have been left abandoned as several other countries in Southeast Asia have also turned away boats carrying hundreds. The reason Muslims are being pushed out of Myanmar is because of all the violence, rape, and crime they have inflicted on the Buddhists there.

Why Australia and Thailand refuse to take in any Rohingya Muslim illegal aliens from Myanmar Burma BARE NAKED ISLAM

All the violence, rape and crime? Or is this deliberate demonization by the Myanmar government?


"Hate speech was widely disseminated during this time in the form of anti-Rohingya pamphlets and numerous public statements demonizing the Rohingya and calling for their removal from the country"

BareNakedIslam is not exactly a reputable source.

There is nothing reputable. Every news source or blog or website has agenda.

Everything has a bias - but there are differing degrees of bias, accuracy and accountability. Surely you know this. There are sites that are well known as hate sites or heavily biased. Would you take such a site as Storm Front seriously?

I will not take anybody seriously who thinks Rohingyas are innocent and Buddhists are all bad. Western countries have their own agenda against Myanmar and Buddhist people. So I tend to not trust western coverage on Myanmar or Buddhist people. Besides, I have lived in North-East India and I have seen Rohingyas first hand.

No one is claiming the Rohingya's are all innocent and the Buddhists are all bad. Even in Nazi Germany, the German's were not "all bad". I do not think there is anything the Rohingas could have done that come anywhere close to justifying the atrocities inflicted on them.. The Burmese government has also been producing and distributing propaganda demonizing them.

I have seen no reputable coverage showing Rohingya's are responsible for a large number of atrocities - you showed me one small riot. It's certainly not on the same scale, but in terms of sentiment and abuse, it's reminiscent of the Nazi's.

Here's a non-Western media source:

Why the Rohingya ended up in floating coffins - The Times of India

Who are the Rohingya and what has forced them to risk such terrible dangers to escape Myanmar? Historians disagree on exactly how long the Muslim minority Rohingya have been living in western Mynamar's Rakhine state. But it is generally recognized that for many of the over 10 lakh Muslims here, it has been home for generations. However, they are not considered one of Myanmar's recognized ethnic groups by the government. In 2012, long-running tensions between the Rohingya and ethnic Rakhine Buddhists erupted into deadly communal violence that left 1,40,000 people — mostly Muslims — homeless.

Those displaced by the violence were crammed into IDP (internally displaced persons) camps where they have been denied access to adequate food or medical care. Allegations of abuse, rape, torture and killings by authorities regularly emerge from the camps. On the border with Bangladesh, Rakhine, though rich in natural resources, is one of the poorest states in Myanmar. Like most border states, it has a complicated history of migration, and at least some of the original tensions between the ethnic Rakhine and the Rohingya can be traced to conflicts over land sharing. ​

 

[irosie91]

right----the Buddhists CLEARLY do not want the ROHINGYAS in Burma. They should have left long ago. That their fellow muslims destroyed Buddhist statuary in Afghanistan and the fact that MALDIVES declared that all but muslims would lose citizenship in that country was a good clue ----they SHOULD HAVE ALL LEFT LONG AGO. Just what was keeping there? sentimental attachment? They had NO PLACE to GO???

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Really a sad situation here. The Rohinga a heavily discrimminated against minority in Myanmar: Asia s Governments Talk As Desperate Rohingyas Wait At Sea The Two-Way NPR

Who are the Rohinga? Why is their plight so ignored? There is no easy solution - that part of Asia has sustained many desperate migrants over the decades. Perhaps other countries around the world should step in and perhaps we should be pressuring Myanmar on it's human rights abuses concerning the Rohinga.

Nobel Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi is strangely silent on this: Aung San Suu Kyi s Rohingya silence Has The Lady lost her voice - CNN.com


Who are the Rohinga and why are they fleeing Myanmar?

Hundreds of those people are believed to be Rohingya, the ethnic Muslim minority in Myanmar who for decades have faced discrimination and persecution in the majority-Buddhist country. The government of Myanmar considers the country’s approximately 1.33 million Rohingya illegal settlers, and the United Nations classifies them as one of the most persecuted refugee groups in the world.

Between 1826 and 1948, the Rohingya were brought from India by the British during their colonial rule to work in Myanmar. Since then, their origin has been disputed, with some believing they hail from Bangladesh and others saying they came from Rakhine state in southeastern Myanmar.​

They've been in Myanmar for almost two centuries or, longer depending on which account is accurate. They are treated like animals.

Myanmar's current policy, according to Newsweek:

In 1982, the Rohingya were stripped of their citizenship by the government of Myanmar, then known as Burma. The Burma Citizenship Law also restricted their access to education, services and freedom of movement, and allowed property to be taken arbitrarily. More than 140,000 Rohingya live in internally displaced persons camps around Sittwe, the capital of Rakhine state, in southwest Myanmar, where they are entirely dependent on international assistance, Human Rights Watch said in 2014. More than 200,000 Rohingya refugees live in Bangladesh, according to Refugees International. They are effectively stateless.​

...Advocates fear violence and discrimination against the Rohingya is escalating, fueling a surge in treacherous boat journeys. Last year, more than 40 Rohingya were massacred in the village of Du Chee Yar Tan by local men, the U.N. confirmed. Among the findings were 10 severed heads in a water tank, including those of children.


Earlier this month, dozens of bodies were discovered in smugglers’ camps in Thailand. Many of the victims were believed to be Rohingya. ​

and Documents show Myanmar Rohingya discrimination is policy - BBC News

In a report, Fortify Rights said it had analysed 12 government documents from 1993 to 2013, and found that government policies imposed "extensive restrictions on the basic freedoms of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar's Rakhine state".

The policies restricted Rohingya's "movement, marriage, childbirth, home repairs and construction of houses of worship", it said.

Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine state were also prohibited from travelling between townships, or out of Rakhine, without permission, the report said.

The report said a government order stipulated that married Rohingya couples in parts of Rakhine state could not have more than two children, while another document said Rohingya had to apply for permission to marry, in what the report described as a "humiliating and financially prohibitive" process.

One document published in the report said officials should force a woman to breastfeed her child if there were doubts over whether she was the birth mother.​

Why No One Wants The Rohingyas The Two-Way NPR

The spectacle of thousands of desperate Rohingya Muslim "boat people" being denied landfall in Southeast Asia has laid bare the region's religious and ethnic prejudices as well as its fears of being swamped by an influx of migrants.

An estimated 6,000 or more such migrants are stranded at sea in Southeast Asia. Most of the people on the overcrowded and unseaworthy boats are thought to belong to the 1.3 million-strong Rohingya minority in Buddhist-majority Myanmar. Others are believed to be from Bangladesh.

Reuters reports that while nearly 800 migrants on one boat were brought ashore Friday in Indonesia, other boats crammed full of people were turned away.

Such refusals underline "the hardening of Southeast Asia governments' stance on the boatloads of Rohingya Muslims fleeing persecution in Myanmar," Reuters says. The Rohingya practice a blend of Sunni and Sufi Islam.

'No Stomach' For Migrants

At best, the migrants have been received with resignation — at worst with contempt — even by the region's Muslim nations. As we've reported recently, many are victims of human traffickers.

The Thai and Malaysian navies have both turned away refugee boats in recent days. Indonesia has taken in some migrants but is now refusing to accept them.

...The United States, for its part, has called on regional governments to work together to save lives, but State Department spokesman Jeff Rathke stresses: "This is a regional issue. It needs a regional solution in short order."

Asia s Governments Talk As Desperate Rohingyas Wait At Sea The Two-Way NPR

Just goes to show, even when everyone has the same skin color, people still find something to be a dick about.

 

[Coyote]

right----the Buddhists CLEARLY do not want the ROHINGYAS in Burma. They should have left long ago. That their fellow muslims destroyed Buddhist statuary in Afghanistan and the fact that MALDIVES declared that all but muslims would lose citizenship in that country was a good clue ----they SHOULD HAVE ALL LEFT LONG AGO. Just what was keeping there? sentimental attachment? They had NO PLACE to GO???

They've lived there for generations, even centuries.

 

[Coyote]

right----the Buddhists CLEARLY do not want the ROHINGYAS in Burma. They should have left long ago. That their fellow muslims destroyed Buddhist statuary in Afghanistan and the fact that MALDIVES declared that all but muslims would lose citizenship in that country was a good clue ----they SHOULD HAVE ALL LEFT LONG AGO. Just what was keeping there? sentimental attachment? They had NO PLACE to GO???

Whites in America didn't want the black there. You know about Liberia right?

Should the blacks have left long ago?

 

[irosie91]

right----the Buddhists CLEARLY do not want the ROHINGYAS in Burma. They should have left long ago. That their fellow muslims destroyed Buddhist statuary in Afghanistan and the fact that MALDIVES declared that all but muslims would lose citizenship in that country was a good clue ----they SHOULD HAVE ALL LEFT LONG AGO. Just what was keeping there? sentimental attachment? They had NO PLACE to GO???

They've lived there for generations, even centuries.

so? where have you been for the past 3000 years? lots of whole population have
UPPED AND MOVED OUT when it became
necessary to do so. Being there for "centuries" did not help anyone living in Maldives----who was not a muslim ---retain
citizenship-----------did you object back then?
There were jews in Afghanistan for more than 2000 years----but it got TOOK by DA MUZZIES-----there were hindus there---probably something like 3000 years---but it got TOOK by da muzzies There were Buddhists there---probably almost 2000 years----but it got TOOK by da muzzies.
!400 years ago -----ARABIA was culturally
diverse. Zoroastrians, and Jews---probably
more than 1000 years before the rapist pig of mecca was born----Christians----a few hundred years. What goes around, comes
around (that's the hindu in me....) The the REAL tragedy of the day are people TRAPPED -------like the Yazidi and the Christians of Iraq ------I did ask "was there anything stopping the Rohingya from LEAVING"----and the answer was no-----they could have fled to any one of DOZENS of muslim countries. Too bad so many HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of KAFFIRIN never had that option----just in the past 100 years---SCORES OF MILLIONS would have run if they had a place to go...... you can probably make that 100s of millions-------a considerable portion being ---dead babies upon which muzzie sluts dance.

When my grandfather was struggling to get his brothers, their wives and kids out of Austria-----he certainly did not try to DEMAND------"adolf ---be nice----they were there for a long long time" and no one else did either. Did you ever hear of EAST BENGAL?-------that one time HINDU LAND TEEMING WITH MILLIONS OF HINDUS?-----anyone SQUAWK about the rights of the
ancient HINDU EAST BENGALIS in 1971 as they
fell dead attempting to flee the onslaught of the worshippers of the rapist pig?......babies dead in the dust. Some of that community still line the gutters of Calcutta (make that
KOLKATA) ---btw---do you have any idea who gave scud missiles (with launchers of course----to the stone age Yemeni Shiites?)

I support the safe rescue of the Rohingyas from Burma by their fellow muslims-----because I am a very nice person-------no one should machine gun them down or divest them of whatever they carry with them during
the rescue --------because I am a very nice person and hope to see them get a better deal than have millions at the hands of muslims

 

[irosie91]

I have a wonderful idea for the salvation of the
ROHINGYAS--------where are them FLOTILLAS?????

 

[Unkotare]

Whites in America didn't want the black there.

"there" where?

 

[irosie91]

Whites in America didn't want the black there.

"there" where?

I do not recall any objection to the development of Liberia. maybe?
I am still very confused as to why----more than a billion muslims do nothing to rescue
their own floating in the sea. There is no
danger in doing so except ENDING up having to harbor the muslims on the boat----
back home.
how hard can that be for some OIL drenched
emirate? ----which begs the question---if a billion muslims don't want them----why should
a small pile of Buddhists want them?