As we watch the Repub House caucus ineffectually try to compromise on a new Speaker

[pknopp]

Doesn't matter. You are talking about every elected politician.

Mostly.

 

[berg80]

One way out of the Repub created chaos I keep seeing is the possibility of Dems and moderate Repubs working together for a compromise candidate. The problem being any Repub who works with Dems (as McCarthy found out) immediately becomes a heretic to the cause of Trumpery (taking down the country) and thus is committing political suicide.

 

[berg80]

Wrong. The "problem" is the Low-IQ, Low-Info voters who voted for Pedo Joe and his skank VP.

I have no idea what your IQ is. But based on your post, one that does not recognize people like Gosar, MTG, Boebert, Biggs, Perry, Gaetz, Jordan, McCarthy, Scalise, Donalds, Hageman are not serious legislators, it's clear you and people like you are the larger part of the problem.

 

[Hum Dinger]

One way out of the Repub created chaos I keep seeing is the possibility of Dems and moderate Repubs working together for a compromise candidate. The problem being any Repub who works with Dems (as McCarthy found out) immediately becomes a heretic to the cause of Trumpery (taking down the country) and thus is committing political suicide.

Once Trump is in prison, and the Republicans are forced (by their own doing) on compromising with the Democrats on the speakership, 'Trumpery' will be dead anyway. May it Rest in Hell!

 

[JohnDB]

 

[kyzr]

I have no idea what your IQ is. But based on your post, one that does not recognize people like Gosar, MTG, Boebert, Biggs, Perry, Gaetz, Jordan, McCarthy, Scalise, Donalds, Hageman are not serious legislators, it's clear you and people like you are the larger part of the problem.

So why pray tell am I the larger part of the problem?

Why are the Republicans you list not serious legislators?

Don't just type shit, prove your assertions, like in a real debate.

 

[bripat9643]

The way to address the national debt is to build a bipartisan consensus as to what can be done about it. Not act like children who didn't get their way. And after Trump's irresponsible tax cuts let's not engage in finger pointing. Repubs have done a great job pretending they care about deficits but that's only the case when a Dem is in the WH.

There will never be a consensus on what to do about it. "Raise taxes" is the only solution that Dims will tolerate. No Republican who votes for that will win reelection.

 

[kyzr]

Once Trump is in prison, and the Republicans are forced (by their own doing) on compromising with the Democrats on the speakership, 'Trumpery' will be dead anyway. May it Rest in Hell!

LOL! Fairy tales. You probably believe that Joe Biden could be elected for a 2nd term too?

 

[kyzr]

There will never be a consensus on what to do about it. "Raise taxes" is the only solution that Dims will tolerate. No Republican who votes for that will win reelection.

The math is the math. We can't cut our way to a balanced budget. We do need new taxes.

Here is my recommended solution:
1. Add a 4% Federal Sales Tax on all sales (gains ~400b/yr)
2. Add a 0.1%? financial transaction tax on ALL financial buy/sell transactions (stocks, bonds, derivatives, bitcoin, etc.) (gains 777b/yr, see link below)
3. Add a Remittance Tax on all money sent out of the US (gains ~$150b/yr, see link below)
4. Remove the cap on SS tax, and raise the ages from 62/67 to 63/68 (saves SS)
5. Raise the tax and co-pay for Medicare
6. Add a co-pay for Medicaid
7. So if all of the above taxes were implemented, the $1T Budget Deficit would become a $350b surplus to start paying down the $32T Debt

Financial Transactions Tax: What You Need to Know - SmartAsset

A financial transactions tax is levied on trades made of stocks, bonds, derivatives and other financial products. It is favored by progressives.

smartasset.com

The United States Loses $150 Billion Annually in Remittances

Many Americans know very little, if anything, about “remittances,” (also known as “remittance payments”) and how they affect the U.S. economy. The term “remittance” refers to money earned in the United States that is transferred to relatives, friends or business associates who are still abroad...

www.fairus.org

 

[bripat9643]

The math is the math. We can't cut our way to a balanced budget. We do need new taxes.

Here is my recommended solution:
1. Add a 4% Federal Sales Tax on all sales (gains ~400b/yr)
2. Add a 0.1%? financial transaction tax on ALL financial buy/sell transactions (stocks, bonds, derivatives, bitcoin, etc.) (gains 777b/yr, see link below)
3. Add a Remittance Tax on all money sent out of the US (gains ~$150b/yr, see link below)
4. Remove the cap on SS tax, and raise the ages from 62/67 to 63/68 (saves SS)
5. Raise the tax and co-pay for Medicare
6. Add a co-pay for Medicaid
7. So if all of the above taxes were implemented, the $1T Budget Deficit would become a $350b surplus to start paying down the $32T Debt

Financial Transactions Tax: What You Need to Know - SmartAsset

A financial transactions tax is levied on trades made of stocks, bonds, derivatives and other financial products. It is favored by progressives.

smartasset.com

The United States Loses $150 Billion Annually in Remittances

Many Americans know very little, if anything, about “remittances,” (also known as “remittance payments”) and how they affect the U.S. economy. The term “remittance” refers to money earned in the United States that is transferred to relatives, friends or business associates who are still abroad...

www.fairus.org

Horseshit. No tax increase ever reduced the deficit one iota.

The national sales tax is the worst idea a prog ever conceived.

Your transaction tax is even worse.

Fuck all your other taxes.

How can anyone look at that list and be pleased.

 

[kyzr]

Horseshit. No tax increase ever reduced the deficit one iota.
The national sales tax is the worst idea a prog ever conceived.
Your transaction tax is even worse.
Fuck all your other taxes.
How can anyone look at that list and be pleased.

So you put up a solution......waiting.

Note, you can't cut your way to a Balanced Budget.

 

[dudmuck]

Chaos? To me it looks like this thing just wrapped up. Jim Jordan will now be the Speaker.

 

[leftwinger]

Horseshit. No tax increase ever reduced the deficit one iota.

The national sales tax is the worst idea a prog ever conceived.

Your transaction tax is even worse.

Fuck all your other taxes.

How can anyone look at that list and be pleased.

It's a good start, and opener. I would add eliminate 10 GOVT departments and all their expenditures right away. The SS proposal makes it officially a TAX (unless the high earners are give higher payouts which kills the idea?).

 

[bripat9643]

So you put up a solution......waiting.

Note, you can't cut your way to a Balanced Budget.

Simply hold spending constant, and the deficit will disappear. Of course, there is a lot of spending that can easily be cut, like the Dept of Education. What does this agency do that's of any value?

Here are a few more agencies that can be eliminated:

Americorps.
Africa Command
Administration for Native Americans.
ATF
AMTRAK
USDA
USAID
Bonneville power administration
Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection
Bureau of Indian Affairs
Bureau of International Labor Affairs
Bureau of Land Management
Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition
Central Intelligence Agency
College of Information and Cyberspace
Commerce Dept
Commision of Fine Arts
Commision on Civil Rights
Commision of Religious Freedom
Commision on Presidential Scholars.
Commission on SEcurity and and Cooperation in Europe
Congressional Office for International Leadership

That's just a scratch on the most obvious ones.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The Dems will regret forcing McCarthy out of the office. Stupid move by dumb fucking Dems.

 

[ColonelAngus]

How funny is it that DEMS are in agreement with the most RIGHT WING RADICAL SEGMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

Pelosi and GAETZ AGREE!

 

[bripat9643]

One way out of the Repub created chaos I keep seeing is the possibility of Dems and moderate Repubs working together for a compromise candidate. The problem being any Repub who works with Dems (as McCarthy found out) immediately becomes a heretic to the cause of Trumpery (taking down the country) and thus is committing political suicide.

Yes. That's the way it should be. Working with Dims should be political suicide.

 

[Hum Dinger]

LOL! Fairy tales. You probably believe that Joe Biden could be elected for a 2nd term too?

So far, they couldn't pass a CR without the Dems and they can't elect a speaker.

Trump is a dead man walking.

Once they've shutdown the government for a few weeks, compromising with the Dems will start looking awfully good to the Traditional Republicans.

They're lucky if they don't end up with Jeffries as Speaker.

 

[schmidlap]

Republican impotence can be expected to persist in weakening the nation amidst multiple crises.

The inability to accept responsibility is an integral feature of Trumpery.

Trump tells House Republicans to 'Shut it down!' ​

​

 

[Hum Dinger]

The math is the math. We can't cut our way to a balanced budget. We do need new taxes.

Here is my recommended solution:
1. Add a 4% Federal Sales Tax on all sales (gains ~400b/yr)
2. Add a 0.1%? financial transaction tax on ALL financial buy/sell transactions (stocks, bonds, derivatives, bitcoin, etc.) (gains 777b/yr, see link below)
3. Add a Remittance Tax on all money sent out of the US (gains ~$150b/yr, see link below)
4. Remove the cap on SS tax, and raise the ages from 62/67 to 63/68 (saves SS)
5. Raise the tax and co-pay for Medicare
6. Add a co-pay for Medicaid
7. So if all of the above taxes were implemented, the $1T Budget Deficit would become a $350b surplus to start paying down the $32T Debt

Financial Transactions Tax: What You Need to Know - SmartAsset

A financial transactions tax is levied on trades made of stocks, bonds, derivatives and other financial products. It is favored by progressives.

smartasset.com

The United States Loses $150 Billion Annually in Remittances

Many Americans know very little, if anything, about “remittances,” (also known as “remittance payments”) and how they affect the U.S. economy. The term “remittance” refers to money earned in the United States that is transferred to relatives, friends or business associates who are still abroad...

www.fairus.org

1. Add a 4% Federal Sales Tax on all sales (gains ~400b/yr) - No Sales Taxes should be left to the States and local governments only.
2. Add a 0.1%? financial transaction tax on ALL financial buy/sell transactions (stocks, bonds, derivatives, bitcoin, etc.) (gains 777b/yr, see link below) - Yes!
3. Add a Remittance Tax on all money sent out of the US (gains ~$150b/yr, see link below) - Not a bad idea to reduce immigration
4. Remove the cap on SS tax, and raise the ages from 62/67 to 63/68 (saves SS) - Yes to removing the cap, no to raising the ages. People shouldn't work until they die without ever collecting.
5. Raise the tax and co-pay for Medicare - Raise the tax, but not the copay
6. Add a co-pay for Medicaid - No. People on Medicaid are poor enough
7. Increase both the Corporate and individual Capital Gains Tax Rates
8. Raise the top income tax brackets