As Trump Cuts Science Budgets, Researchers Look Abroad. This Will Be The Death Knell Of The U.S. Economy.

[Oddball]

The science in our federal budget is a very small part. Eliminate the subsidies for fossil fuels, and you can easily cover the cost of scientific research.

1) Moral relativism isn't an argument.

2) There are no in-kind cash subsidies for "fossil fuels" and you know it, ******* liar.

 

[struth]

It wasn't just about one guy, like your trolling post made it out to be.

But you can't address the main issue.....that Trump's scientific funding freeze will be a disaster for this country.

You haven't received your bullshit right wing talking points to "address" this yet.

I did address the issue the issue is some govt employees are getting laid off and can’t hack it in the private sector so are looking to work for foreign govts

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I did address the issue the issue is some govt employees are getting laid off and can’t hack it in the private sector so are looking to work for foreign govts

Nope....more MAGA trolling from a total lightweight with no facts, no game, and no intellect.

 

[Unkotare]

Why don't you address the topic....instead of your creepy obsession with me?

If you didn't act like an asshole to start with, you wouldn't need to beg for mercy like this.

Cutting grants to Harvard will NOT end research in the United States. We have many, many universities conducting research. Harvard's loss may be their gain. AND, if Harvard just swallows its pride and stops condoning terrorism and espionage, they will find things much better for them.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

If you didn't act like an asshole to start with, you wouldn't need to beg for mercy like this.

Cutting grants to Harvard will NOT end research in the United States. We have many, many universities conducting research. Harvard's loss may be their gain. AND, if Harvard just swallows its pride and stops condoning terrorism and espionage, they will find things much better for them.

It's not just Harvard, lightweight.

What else you got?

 

[Unkotare]

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What else you got?

Address the point. There is a lot of research taking place in the US. AND, research can also be conducted in the private sector based on demand. Not everything has to come from the government teat.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Address the point. There is a lot of research taking place in the US. AND, research can also be conducted in the private sector based on demand. Not everything has to come from the government teat.

You didn't make a "point". Trump has frozen Federally funded scientific research nationwide.

Private sector research also depends heavily on Federal funding.

 

[struth]

Nope....more MAGA trolling from a total lightweight with no facts, no game, and no intellect.

The facts you provided, in the OP that you apparently didnt read

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

The facts you provided, in the OP that you apparently didnt read

In other words, the MAGA troll has nothing....as usual.

 

[struth]

In other words, the MAGA troll has nothing....as usual.

What are you even talking about? What was I suppose to be brining? You brought the OP, I read it and we are suppose to be discussing it

You apparently didn’t read it

 

[Seymour Flops]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

Scientists are not going to continue to work in this country under Trump's hostile regime that does not value education and scientific research. It's that simple.

From the Washington Post --

Kartik Sheth, 53, is an astrophysicist and, until a few weeks ago, was the associate chief scientist at NASA. On March 10, he got an unexpected email: “I regret to inform you that you are being affected by a [reduction-in-force] action. … Therefore, you will be separated from NASA at the close of business on April 10, 2025.”

One of 23 NASA employees laid off that day, including everyone in the Office of the Chief Scientist, Sheth is now looking for a job — anywhere. On Friday, he arrived in Paris to attend a conference and check out the environment for scientific research.

“I don’t know if I’ll find a job in America given the cuts to science,” he said. “I think we could have a pretty major brain drain in the country. … I think people are going to start to wonder if this is the place for me to continue to do science.’”

With billions of dollars in research grants eliminated or frozen by the Trump administration, scientists across America in a broad array of fields face an uncertain future and the possibility of layoffs. An untold number like Sheth are looking abroad, thinking of continuing their careers far from the turmoil here.

While it’s unclear how many will actually make the move, American scientists are being actively recruited by countries including France, Spain, Germany and China that are hoping to reverse the flow of expertise into the United States that has been the norm for decades.

“People who were certain that they were going to spend their careers in the U.S., and stay in the U.S. for the next phase, are now totally reconsidering,” said David Baker, a biochemist at the University of Washington who shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 2024.

The United States now faces a “wholesale change in mentality” across the science community as a result of President Donald Trump’s actions, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

You need to connect the dots on how cutting research grants to universities will damage the U.S. economy.

The "scientists" researching shrimp on a treadmill, cocaine use among various mouse genders, and other hugely wasteful boondoggles are unlikely to find patronage in France, even if they manage to learn the language.

Treadmill Studies--Louis E. Burnett

Shrimp and crab treadmill research by Louis E. Burnett, Professor of Biology and Director of Grice Marine Laboratory at the College of Charleston

burnettl.people.charleston.edu

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027858462100021X

Universities will miss skimming so much off the top of these grants, but that will hardly destroy the economy.

NOT-OD-25-068: Supplemental Guidance to the 2024 NIH Grants Policy Statement: Indirect Cost Rates

NIH Funding Opportunities and Notices in the NIH Guide for Grants and Contracts: Supplemental Guidance to the 2024 NIH Grants Policy Statement: Indirect Cost Rates NOT-OD-25-068. OD

grants.nih.gov

 

[struth]

You didn't make a "point". Trump has frozen Federally funded scientific research nationwide.

Private sector research also depends heavily on Federal funding.

Not all of funding, stop lying. He’s laid off some govt employees and froze some grants

 

[Mac-7]

Trump and Republicans are trying to add 4 trillion to the deficit. Apparently that isn't an issue.

No we arent

What is your budget?

 

[Hellokitty]

It wasn't just about one guy, like your trolling post made it out to be.

But you can't address the main issue.....that Trump's scientific funding freeze will be a disaster for this country.

You haven't received your bullshit right wing talking points to "address" this yet.

What specific job did the guy in article do that is being cut, and how many other people are doing the same job or are capable of doing so? I'm not asking for his job title I'm asking for what exactly was he researching and what makes him indispensable.

 

[Mac-7]

The science in our federal budget is a very small part. Eliminate the subsidies for fossil fuels, and you can easily cover the cost of scientific research.

Or stop subsidizing solar and EVs

And just for your information, we can live without the Lost Secrets of Atlantis but not fossil fuels

 

[Old Rocks]

1) Moral relativism isn't an argument.

2) There are no in-kind cash subsidies for "fossil fuels" and you know it, ******* liar.

LOL

"There is a long history of government intervention in energy markets. Numerous energy subsidies exist in the U.S. tax code to promote or subsidize the production of cheap and abundant fossil energy. Some of these subsidies have been around for a century, and while the United States has enjoyed unparalleled economic growth over the past 100 years—thanks in no small part to cheap energy—in many cases, the circumstances relevant at the time subsidies were implemented no longer exist. Today, the domestic fossil fuel industries (namely, coal, oil and natural gas) are mature and generally highly profitable. Additionally, numerous clean and renewable alternatives exist, which have become increasingly price-competitive with traditional fossil fuels."

Fact Sheet | Fossil Fuel Subsidies: A Closer Look at Tax Breaks and Societal Costs (2019) | White Papers | EESI

www.eesi.org

 

[BluesLegend]

As Trump Cuts Science Budgets, Researchers Look Abroad.​

Yes the sick bastard Dems will have to find their trans/homo sicko research money somewhere else. Hey why not ask the Saudi's or Iran?

 

[Old Rocks]

Or stop subsidizing solar and EVs

And just for your information, we can live without the Lost Secrets of Atlantis but not fossil fuels

LOL For nearly 300,000 years, Homo Sapiens lived without fossil fuels. And we can easily do it again. Most importantly we must stop burning fossil fuels. And then there is the little problem of micro-plastics. Ah well, the world can easily get along without us.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes the sick bastard Dems will have to find their trans/homo sicko research money somewhere else. Hey why not ask the Saudi's or Iran?

Now what percentage of the scientific budget that is being cut has to do with that? I think you are just hiding your scientific knowledge inferiority through your hate of anyone different than you. Or maybe they aren't that much different, and this is a form of self hate?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

All the good ones. Why should they stay in a country that doesn’t pay?

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I'd be happy with the ones who stay regardless of the $$$ offered.

Some people do science because they love science.

All your cult cares about is $$$, obviously, as long as you don't have to actually -- GASP!!! -- earn it.


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