CDZ As if anyone needs more evidence that Trump cannot be relied upon....transsexuals and bathrooms

[The Great Goose]

Trump is finding his feet as a politician and becoming more verbally solidified in his views.

He's made himself as clear on transsexuals as he did on welfare.

 

[The Great Goose]

NOte that when you try to make the case he is an anti-woman bigot that you cite three specific women who were his enemies.

Almost as though he was engaged with them as individuals, and you leftist tried to spin it into a problem with women in general.

I did no such thing.

Megyn Kelly was a debate moderator; Carly Fiorina was a candidate. Rosie O'Donnell, I don't even know who she is. What they have in common is that he attacked them all on the basis of gender. And that very much IS about women in general. Actually I could have cited his own daughter as well, same thing. None of those are "enemies", depending on who Rosie O'Donnell is.

I can't believe you want to sit on the internet and pretend that point flew over your head.

And incidentally, we generally form plurals in English by adding the letter S. It's a French thing.

Megan Kelly was a moderate who took sides and targeted Trump. Trump was right to fight back.

Carly Fiorina was a competing candidate. Trump was very harsh with her.

Rosie O'Donnell is a rabid far left partisan. She deserves far worse than she got.

They were all people who opposed Trump, and he focused on them individually because of their individual actions.


Oh, you don't like that he didn't address them seriously and honestly on matter of policy in a civil and polite manner?

Sorry, as a leftist you have no credibility to complain about that.

Wwwhhooooosssshhh.

How convenient it must be to plug in your own points because you can't deal with the ones actually made.
Are you afraid?

You mentioned three women who Trump attacked, "on the basis of gender".

Yet they were not just random women that were innocently walking along that he ambushed.

THey were individuals who were his enemies.

He has real reasons to attack them.

Is he playing hard ball? Yes.

Megan Kelly betrayed her professional responsibility to be an impartial MODERATOR. She deserved what she got.

Rosie O'Donnell is a vile person. She deserves what ever he said about her.

I can't believe you're STILL willing to play dumb on this.

Let's break it down into simplistic analogies.
Did Rump attack any of his male rivals on the basis of what he looks like?
Did Rump attack any other moderator or interviewer on the basis of his bodily functions?
Did Rump suggest that if he wasn't his father, he might be dating his son?

Let us know when this starts to sink in. If ever.

/offtopic

They deserved it. And women understand that.

 

[Pogo]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

Holy FS....

REAL simple here -- the OP's question is how long is it before Rump's position changes yet again according to what works in the moment.

Like it did on the Iraq war.... like it did on abortion.... like it did on David Duke... etc etc etc.

 

[Pogo]

Trump is finding his feet as a politician and becoming more verbally solidified in his views.

He's made himself as clear on transsexuals as he did on welfare.

Rump was on welfare? I did not know that.

 

[Correll]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

Holy FS....

REAL simple here -- the OP's question is how long is it before Rump's position changes yet again according to what works in the moment.

Like it did on the Iraq war.... like it did on abortion.... like it did on David Duke... etc etc etc.

REal simple here. THe OP is what I said. HE attempts to make his point with an example that doesn't show what he claims.

Duke? THat's another one where there was no reversal.

 

[Vigilante]

Here's what Trump said:

“Leave it the way it is. North Carolina, what they’re going through with all the business that’s leaving, all of the strife — and this is on both sides. Leave it the way it is.” He continued, “There has been so little trouble. And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic — I mean, the economic punishment that they’re taking.”

(1) Where exactly, did Trump stand up for the rights of male perverts and trannies to take a whiz or go #2 alongside with, or do worse things to little girls and defenseless women?

(2) Does NC (and other states) not have existing laws that punish offenders who engage in sexual exploitation of children or lewd sexual activities in public restrooms?

All Trump is saying is that trannies, feminine men, perverts, sickos, etc have been using male or female bathrooms for eons and no one has batted an eye up until now, when it's an election year and leftist groups foolishly believe that they can create a Todd Akin-narrative to portray Republicans and conservatives as anti-transgendered or anti-discrimination or something - and right on cue you have Rafael Cruz and other gutless Republicans who didn't stand with the NC Governor on this or did jack squat when SCOTUS decreed homo marriage on all 50 states - yapping like Yorkshires and pathetically playing the Left's game.

Trump simply did not take the bait. He is saying that NC shouldn't have gone through the hassle of making new law when existing laws and mores served just fine and violators would be punished under current law.

So now, Christian conservatives are angry and threatening to stay home in a snit because Trump didn't just state the obvious truth that biological men should use the Men's restroom and women should use the Women's restroom (And I wished he would have. BTW - I do NOT agree with Trump on this, but merely posting his reasoning behind his statement) and leftists are upset because they won't have a narrative to club Trump over the head with throughout the election.

Both sides lost, which is EXACTLY what Trump wanted.

Now hopefully, Trump can continue to talk about the real issues that matter and disregard these questions that are designed to alienate social conservative support from him.

 

[Pogo]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

Holy FS....

REAL simple here -- the OP's question is how long is it before Rump's position changes yet again according to what works in the moment.

Like it did on the Iraq war.... like it did on abortion.... like it did on David Duke... etc etc etc.

REal simple here. THe OP is what I said. HE attempts to make his point with an example that doesn't show what he claims.

Duke? THat's another one where there was no reversal.

Fine well you can bury your head in the sand and pretend it never happened. That's what Rump does when it turns out he should have said something different.

Dismissed.

 

[Correll]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

Holy FS....

REAL simple here -- the OP's question is how long is it before Rump's position changes yet again according to what works in the moment.

Like it did on the Iraq war.... like it did on abortion.... like it did on David Duke... etc etc etc.

REal simple here. THe OP is what I said. HE attempts to make his point with an example that doesn't show what he claims.

Duke? THat's another one where there was no reversal.

Fine well you can bury your head in the sand and pretend it never happened. That's what Rump does when it turns out he should have said something different.

Dismissed.

You are not angry with Trump because he is NOT taking a stand against Trannies in women's restrooms.

YOu are angry because he has seriously challenged Political Correctness, which you lefties rely on to avoid having to defend your political positions and policies on just their merits.

Which you generally CAN'T do because they are generally bad for America and Americans.

 

[Pogo]

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

Holy FS....

REAL simple here -- the OP's question is how long is it before Rump's position changes yet again according to what works in the moment.

Like it did on the Iraq war.... like it did on abortion.... like it did on David Duke... etc etc etc.

REal simple here. THe OP is what I said. HE attempts to make his point with an example that doesn't show what he claims.

Duke? THat's another one where there was no reversal.

Fine well you can bury your head in the sand and pretend it never happened. That's what Rump does when it turns out he should have said something different.

Dismissed.

You are not angry with Trump because he is NOT taking a stand against Trannies in women's restrooms.

YOu are angry because he has seriously challenged Political Correctness, which you lefties rely on to avoid having to defend your political positions and policies on just their merits.

Which you generally CAN'T do because they are generally bad for America and Americans.

I'm not "angry" about either. I don't actually give a flying fart about bathrooms --- actually I think it's hilarious that some of y'all are melting down over it. And in keeping with that I've made a total of no posts whatsoever on it.

This thread is about Donald Rump (not bathrooms) and his ever-shifting positions.
Weird how you don't get that.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Less than .3% of the population.

Unless one peeps in stalls, one will never know if a transgender person is in there.

What is it with RWNJs and their constant Peeping Tom? Why are they so obsessed with other people's pee pees?

They need to grow up and MYOB

 

[Pogo]

Less than .3% of the population.

Unless one peeps in stalls, one will never know if a transgender person is in there.

What is it with RWNJs and their constant Peeping Tom? Why are they so obsessed with other people's pee pees?

They need to grow up and MYOB

This whole bathroom obsession is kinda weird. Where did these asshats think trannies have been going to the bathroom for the last 40 years?

 

[The Great Goose]

Less than .3% of the population.

Unless one peeps in stalls, one will never know if a transgender person is in there.

What is it with RWNJs and their constant Peeping Tom? Why are they so obsessed with other people's pee pees?

They need to grow up and MYOB

This whole bathroom obsession is kinda weird. Where did these asshats think trannies have been going to the bathroom for the last 40 years?

"Conservatives"react. This bathroom thing was invented by the progressives. They pretty much set the conservative agenda. It must be great fun for Soros and his mates.."lets see if we can get them to do...this!" Then they all snicker and roll about.

 

[320 Years of History]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

He's for not getting bogged down by "media" distractions.

The truth, consistency, reliability and integrity are not distractions of any sort.

 

[The Great Goose]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

He's for not getting bogged down by "media" distractions.

The truth, consistency, reliability and integrity are not distractions of any sort.

Have you ever thought how much hardship you put minorities through, using them as canon fodder for the feminist agenda?

 

[320 Years of History]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

I did because I've already got plenty of posts discussing/identifying the others.

I really don't care that much what position he takes on the transgender issue. I care that whatever position he articulates now, he holds true to it during his Presidency. My problem with Trump is that I don't think he can be trusted. I've seen so many contradictions from that man that I haven't even gotten to the point whereby what be his actual positions on the issues even matter.

 

[320 Years of History]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

He's for not getting bogged down by "media" distractions.

The truth, consistency, reliability and integrity are not distractions of any sort.

Have you ever thought how much hardship you put minorities through, using them as canon fodder for the feminist agenda?

???

 

[320 Years of History]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And it's a fair question, fueled by much history. Such as repudiating David Duke one day, and then the next day not being able to figure out who he is. Rump just makes it up as he goes along. He has no plan for anything except how to attract attention. If somebody gives him blowback for the present comment he'll just deny having said it. Perhaps try to blame a "lousy earpiece".

He has no principles. He just blurts out whatever he thinks will win him attention and adulation from the gullible in the moment.

How many times does one has to repudiate David Duke before you libs stop asking about him?

It's almost as though, you don't care about the answer and are just using the question to smear someone unfairly...

Red:
Unequivocally and unambiguously once during the 2016 Presidential campaign would be sufficient.

I don't like and should not need to infer what a Presidential candidate means when they say something. When a candidate is asked a question answerable by "yes" or "no," I expect them to say "yes" or "no." If after doing so, they want to qualify their response, fine, but still if the preponderance of their stance corresponds to yes, they need so say "yes." If it's mostly no, they need to say "no."

Why should we whose votes they solicit need to figure out which way they lean or what they "really meant?" Is it expecting too much of them to just be clear? I think it is not and unquestionably clear is not what Trump was re: repudiating David Duke's endorsement.

 

[The Great Goose]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

I did because I've already got plenty of posts discussing/identifying the others.

I really don't care that much what position he takes on the transgender issue. I care that whatever position he articulates now, he holds true to it during his Presidency. My problem with Trump is that I don't think he can be trusted. I've seen so many contradictions from that man that I haven't even gotten to the point whereby what be his actual positions on the issues even matter.

What reason would he have for doing it, unless he actually cared?

 

[320 Years of History]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

I did because I've already got plenty of posts discussing/identifying the others.

I really don't care that much what position he takes on the transgender issue. I care that whatever position he articulates now, he holds true to it during his Presidency. My problem with Trump is that I don't think he can be trusted. I've seen so many contradictions from that man that I haven't even gotten to the point whereby what be his actual positions on the issues even matter.

What reason would he have for doing it, unless he actually cared?

Doing what "it?"

 

[The Great Goose]

He's not changing his mind. He's never had anything against gays or blacks or legal immigrants or poor people, welfare recipients, disabled..

The issue and point of my OP isn't whether he's for or against LGBT folks. It's also not whether you or I are for or against them. The issue is that Trump's position today is as likely as not to not be his position at sometime within the foreseeable future.

And to support that you pick an issue he did not have a previous public position on and....


Err, what?

I did because I've already got plenty of posts discussing/identifying the others.

I really don't care that much what position he takes on the transgender issue. I care that whatever position he articulates now, he holds true to it during his Presidency. My problem with Trump is that I don't think he can be trusted. I've seen so many contradictions from that man that I haven't even gotten to the point whereby what be his actual positions on the issues even matter.

What reason would he have for doing it, unless he actually cared?

Doing what "it?"

Are you being deliberately obtuse?