I am okay with is use of the authority as to Mexico. Canada and the EU not so much.
As Don says, "let's see what happens."
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I am okay with is use of the authority as to Mexico. Canada and the EU not so much.
Politicians....all of the politicians regardless of party affiliation. That's who.
The Sage of Main Street
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Either way, why should we care what SCROTUS thinks? It's just a non-binding opinion.
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Those that vote for democrats or republicans.
berg80
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The SC ruled (or should I say the extremist conservatives ruled) that the admin lacked the legal authority to implement a wide-reaching program using the HEROES Act. So the Biden admin did not simply disregard the Supreme Court's ruling. They announced a "new path" to provide student debt relief, using a different legal basis contained in the Higher Education Act of 1965.
Ooops, there goes another fallacious right wing narrative in to the crapper.
Justice Kagan calls student loan decision 'overreach' that 'blows through a constitutional guardrail'
Justice Kagan calls student loan decision 'overreach' that 'blows through a constitutional guardrail'
In a stinging dissent, Kagan said the court had "no business deciding" the case, and called the decision "a danger to a democratic order."
www.nbcnews.com
Justice Elena Kagan on Friday slammed her conservative colleagues' decision to invalidate President Joe Biden’s student loan debt relief plan, suggesting they had put politics ahead of case law on a matter they had "no business deciding."
"The Court’s first overreach in this case is deciding it at all," Kagan wrote in her dissent from the 6-3 ruling, where she said the states that challenged the policy did not have legal standing to do so.
"Under Article III of the Constitution, a plaintiff must have standing to challenge a government action. And that requires a personal stake — an injury in fact. We do not allow plaintiffs to bring suit just because they oppose a policy," she wrote.
"The plaintiffs in this case are six States that have no personal stake in the Secretary’s loan forgiveness plan. They are classic ideological plaintiffs: They think the plan a very bad idea, but they are no worse off because the Secretary differs. In giving those States a forum — in adjudicating their complaint — the Court forgets its proper role. The Court acts as though it is an arbiter of political and policy disputes, rather than of cases and controversies," Kagan wrote.
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Gee, Berg...I thought Trump's tariffs were going to cause a recession and rampant inflation? Now that it's obvious that isn't happening you're going to try to use "lawfare" to keep him from using what is a winning strategy? Gotta be honest, Little Buddy...you liberals get more frantic with each Trump win! You do realize that at some point you need to come up with something to run on OTHER than doing everything you can to resist Trump's agenda? What's the liberal plan going forward? Far left Socialism? $30 an hour minimum wage? Opening up the border again? Wasting more money we don't have on woke Federal programs? More men playing women's sports? Giving Iran more money to rebuild their nuclear program? Putting harmful dyes and additives back into our food? Let's hear what you're planning on running on...
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Don't bother asking me to defend that assertion. It isn't mine. Of note, however, we won't know about the potential inflationary effects of the tariffs for a while.
Commonly imported products like clothes, furniture and bed linens were among the goods that jumped in price last month as President Donald Trump's tariffs took hold, federal government data this week showed.
The price of toys -- a product dependent almost entirely on imports -- increased six times faster in June than it had just two months prior.
The U.S. economy so far has defied analysts' fears of a large, tariff-induced price spike. Still, the new data rekindled a longstanding question: Have tariffs begun to push up consumer prices?
Tariffs contributed modestly to the rise of inflation last month, analysts told ABC News, citing the price hikes in product categories made up primarily of imports. But, they added, overall price increases owed largely to a rise in housing and food products with little connection to tariffs.
Are tariffs to blame for rising inflation? Experts weigh in
Price increases accelerated in June, government data this week showed.
abcnews.go.com
kyzr
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Read the link in post #5, congress already delegated tariffs to the president.
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berg80
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Horseshit. The legal pretense for trump's unilateral imposition of tariffs is the use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. One federal court has already ruled using it was illegal.
The U.S. Court of International Trade struck those tariffs down in late May, ruling that Trump exceeded his authority under IEEPA.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/26/trump-tariffs-trade-lawsuits.html
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Technically Congress controls tariffs, but if the court shoots Trump down, the Republican Congress will probably agree with Trump.
kyzr
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If you actually read the link it says that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of Trump.
“Trump will probably continue to lose in the lower courts, and we believe the Supreme Court is highly unlikely to rule in his favor,” U.S. policy analysts from Piper Sandler wrote in a research note Friday morning.
Lawsuits are just a nuisance.
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Let's see what happens if you quit posting.
He wouldn’t prevent the president of Taiwan from landing in NY in order to simp for Xi.
Trump's reported snub of Taiwan president spurs concerns over deference to China. FOX
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Pharma firms are calling for clarity on tariffs imposed under the new U.S.-EU trade agreement, as analysts warn that punitive sector-specific levies could risk blowing up the entire deal.
Ambiguity abounds around the terms for pharmaceutical goods under the trade truce agreed Sunday, which imposes 15% tariffs on EU goods imported to the U.S.
U.S. President Donald Trump announced a “straight across” tariff on “automobiles and everything else,” during a news briefing, while simultaneously suggesting that pharma was “unrelated to this deal.”
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, meanwhile, dubbed the agreed levy as “all-inclusive,” and indicated that Europe would be excluded from a forthcoming announcement on pharma tariffs.
“We have 15% for pharmaceuticals. Whatever the decision later on is, of the president of the U.S., how to deal with pharmaceuticals in general globally, that’s on a different sheet of paper,” Von der Leyen said Sunday.
How many of these "deals" are done deals and how many are subject to Dotard's whims? Moreover, how many if any will survive the court challenge?
Ambiguity abounds around the terms for pharmaceutical goods under the trade truce agreed Sunday, which imposes 15% tariffs on EU goods imported to the U.S.
U.S. President Donald Trump announced a “straight across” tariff on “automobiles and everything else,” during a news briefing, while simultaneously suggesting that pharma was “unrelated to this deal.”
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, meanwhile, dubbed the agreed levy as “all-inclusive,” and indicated that Europe would be excluded from a forthcoming announcement on pharma tariffs.
“We have 15% for pharmaceuticals. Whatever the decision later on is, of the president of the U.S., how to deal with pharmaceuticals in general globally, that’s on a different sheet of paper,” Von der Leyen said Sunday.
How many of these "deals" are done deals and how many are subject to Dotard's whims? Moreover, how many if any will survive the court challenge?
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