"article 49 of the fourth geneva convention”.- Israels illegal theft of west bank land and sponsoring of thug settlers is illegal

[Sherlock Holmes]

You are going to have to up your game.

The video begins in the wrong place with "How did Israel come to occupy [Judea and Samaria]". The correct place to begin is with who had sovereign legal rights to Judea and Samaria. How did they obtain those rights? What are the boundaries to which those rights apply? What legal instruments do we have to confirm those rights?

We can't discuss one State occupying another State if we can't first establish the legal existence of both States and the legal boundary between them. Otherwise, how can we know if a person is standing in the one State or the other?

Ben-Gurion accepted the UN partition plan Oct 1947, and the UN approved the plan late Nov 1947 in resolution 181.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Here's a CIA report from Nov 28 1947, the day before the UN vote on resolution 181:

There it is plan and simple. They agreed to the planned partition but actually were simply deceiving, they had no intention of confining the state to the agreed borders, they wanted the entire region, this is inherent in Zionism, seize land and ethnically cleanse it.

 

[Shusha]

Ben-Gurion accepted the UN partition plan Oct 1947, and the UN approved the plan late Nov 1947 in resolution 181.

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UNGA resolutions do not create States or boundaries. And the ICJ opinion does not discuss these as boundaries. Try again.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

UNGA resolutions do not create States or boundaries. And the ICJ opinion does not discuss these as boundaries. Try again.

Try what again? I just stated some facts, anyone can check if they think I'm incorrect. As to the relevance of this to the ICJ, I have no idea. The point of my post is to show Ben Gurion (representing the Zionists) accepted the partition plan, we can all see the map, it defines borders for what's inside "Israel" and what's outside "Israel", they accepted that.

But behind closed doors they had not intention of honoring that agreement, so says the CIA record.

It's the same old fanatical nationalism begging, whining and crying with one hand while they punch, slap and steal with the other. Nobody has any more patience for these fucking theatrics and melodrama and crying antisemitism this and holocaust that.

They need to get the fuck out, everybody can see the plain truth here, so stop with the pretending.

 

[Shusha]

Try what again? I just stated some facts, anyone can check if they think I'm incorrect. As to the relevance of this to the ICJ, I have no idea. The point of my post is to show Ben Gurion (representing the Zionists) accepted the partition plan, we can all see the map, it defines borders for what's inside "Israel" and what's outside "Israel", they accepted that.

Yes, it is a fact that UNGA 181 exists. It is not a fact that UNGA 181 establishes the legal boundaries of Israel or some other imaginary State.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why are you supporting people who execute homosexuals?

He is a self-hating homo.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's the highest UN court you clown.

High scum indeed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ben-Gurion accepted the UN partition plan Oct 1947, and the UN approved the plan late Nov 1947 in resolution 181.

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Ben-Gurion accepted the UN partition plan Oct 1947, and the UN approved the plan late Nov 1947 in resolution 181.

Who else accepted the plan?

 

[Deadstick]

High scum indeed.

You are the ones who lecture the World on the rule of law and the rules based order, well it looks like your rules and everyone elses order you will actually see the destruction of Israel and it will be their own fault, they had a wake up call yesterday when a Houthi Drone hit Tel Aviv, you can't take Hezbollah on because they can fight back.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are the ones who lecture the World on the rule of law and the rules based order, well it looks like your rules and everyone elses order you will actually see the destruction of Israel and it will be their own fault, they had a wake up call yesterday when a Houthi Drone hit Tel Aviv, you can't take Hezbollah on because they can fight back.

You should hold your breath, like the Arab whiners have for the last 75 years.

 

[Muhammed]

It's the highest UN court you clown.

The UN is an abhorrently corrupt organization, jackass.

 

[Deadstick]

The UN is an abhorrently corrupt organization, jackass.

If it is your Country corrupted it arsehole.

 

[Muhammed]

Ben-Gurion accepted the UN partition plan Oct 1947, and the UN approved the plan late Nov 1947 in resolution 181.

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The Arabs refused that partition plan, therefore that proposal was never agreed to nor implemented.

 

[Muhammed]

Try what again? I just stated some facts, anyone can check if they think I'm incorrect. As to the relevance of this to the ICJ, I have no idea. The point of my post is to show Ben Gurion (representing the Zionists) accepted the partition plan, we can all see the map, it defines borders for what's inside "Israel" and what's outside "Israel", they accepted that.

But behind closed doors they had not intention of honoring that agreement, so says the CIA record.

It's the same old fanatical nationalism begging, whining and crying with one hand while they punch, slap and steal with the other. Nobody has any more patience for these fucking theatrics and melodrama and crying antisemitism this and holocaust that.

They need to get the fuck out, everybody can see the plain truth here, so stop with the pretending.

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Israel is not within the ICJ's jurisdiction, dumbass.

 

[Shusha]

It is also an advisory opinion and not legally binding.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It is also an advisory opinion and not legally binding.

And it constitutes further evidence that the UN is a failed experiment.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Yes, it is a fact that UNGA 181 exists. It is not a fact that UNGA 181 establishes the legal boundaries of Israel or some other imaginary State.

As I said earlier, laws, treaties, resolutions are interpreted by Judges and precedent too plays an important role in making decisions.

The weight of informed opinion is against you, look at the votes of the Judges, huge disparity (for/against) there.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

And it constitutes further evidence that the UN is a failed experiment.

The UN was founded by the victors of WW2, the US was the primary mover and shaker (look at where the headquarters are FFS), nobody forced the US to create and become a member of, the UN.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

It is also an advisory opinion and not legally binding.

There is no "binding" without security council approvals for action and since the US is one of the five permanent members of said council, it can veto any resolution and often has with Israel, making itself look like an emasculated spectacle, doing the bidding of the apartheid Zionist regime, the lobby groups are always the one's pulling the strings not the US, the US has no power here, it is putty in Israel's hands.

 

[Shusha]

As I said earlier, laws, treaties, resolutions are interpreted by Judges and precedent too plays an important role in making decisions.

The weight of informed opinion is against you, look at the votes of the Judges, huge disparity (for/against) there.

Yes, I am aware of how the law works. The issue I have with opinions like this is that the decisions themselves run contradictory to existing treaties and customary law. The danger here is permitting the UN to establish custom wherein it gives itself new powers to break treaties between States; tear apart the territorial integrity of existing States; reward acts of belligerence; negate the concept of peace treaties; create legal workarounds for such atrocities as sanctioned ethnic cleansing.

It is a very, very bad idea to permit the UN the power to dictate the behaviour of States outside the law.