Arrests Happening for Church Rioters

[Marener]

An old lady just standing and praying in front of an an abortion clinic. Got arrested, these people should get the same.

She was blocking the door. Very intentionally.

These people weren't blocking the doors, were they?

 

[SweetSue92]

I never said otherwise. But this isn't about trespassing.

Maybe, maybe not. These protestors did less than the protestors in at the abortion clinics that Trump pardoned.

No, they didn't. The abortion folks were out on public sidewalks praying and etc. NOT barging INTO a privately owned church to threaten

 

[SweetSue92]

I should have known better.....I may a well try to teach a chimp quantum physics as to converse with you.

I was basically thinking the same thing

 

[DukeU]

Individuals can be trespassed, for sure. That’s not what’s going on here.

What exactly is going on here?

 

[jknowgood]

She was blocking the door. Very intentionally.

These people weren't blocking the doors, were they?

No she wasn't.

 

[Marener]

No, they didn't. The abortion folks were out on public sidewalks praying and etc. NOT barging INTO a privately owned church to threaten

That's simply not true. The abortion protestors that were convicted were definitely barging into privately owned buildings, blocking entrances, and obstructing patients.

 

[Marener]

No she wasn't.

Perhaps you could tell us who you're talking about exactly.

 

[Failzero]

She was blocking the door. Very intentionally.

These people weren't blocking the doors, were they?

The two older women went in the Waiting Room of the Clinic sat in waiting room chairs & started praying for that they got 2-4 Years Prison time

 

[Marener]

The FACE act covers abortion clinics as well as churches.
But official DOJ policy will treat infractions differently depending if the victim is a church or an abortion clinic.

https://www.justice.gov/media/1386461/dl

To address this concern and to ensure that federal law enforcement and prosecutorial resources are devoted to the most serious violations of federal law, future abortion-related FACE Act prosecutions and civil actions will be permitted only in extraordinary circumstances, or in cases presenting significant aggravating factors, such as death, serious bodily harm, or serious property damage. Cases not presenting significant aggravating factors can adequately be addressed under state or local law. Additionally, until further notice, no new abortion-related FACE Act actions-criminal or civil-will be permitted without authorization from the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division.


So we don't have equal protection under the law in this administration.

 

[Marener]

The two older women went in the Waiting Room of the Clinic sat in waiting room chairs & started praying for that they got 2-4 Years Prison time

Names? I'd like to look up the info myself.

 

[SweetSue92]

Not entirely clear. FACE is mostly concerned with people blocking access (as was happening in the abortion clinics that I pointed out) and using threats or force.

They might be able to be prosecuted under the FACE act, but they didn’t barricade doors and as far as I can tell haven’t been threatening people but I haven’t seen everything.

(2)
by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship; or

18 U.S. Code § 248 - Freedom of access to clinic entrances

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That's simply not true. The abortion protestors that were convicted were definitely barging into privately owned buildings, blocking entrances, and obstructing patients.

If true then you agree Lemon and his cohorts need to be arrested and serve time, right?

You've spun yourself into a web

 

[Marener]

If true then you agree Lemon and his cohorts need to be arrested and serve time, right?

You've spun yourself into a web

Maybe, maybe not. The protestors at the church didn't barricade the doors, that much is clear, which makes their offenses less overt.

Lemon didn't do anything wrong, you're just going after him out of pure hatred.

 

[Hollie]

You didn’t do shit.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/seven-defendants-convicted-federal-civil-rights-conspiracy-and-freedom-access-clinic

According to evidence presented at trial, Calvin Zastrow, Chester Gallagher, Heather Idoni, Caroline Davis, Joel Curry, Justin Phillips, Eva Edl and Eva Zastrow engaged in a conspiracy to prevent clinic employees from providing, and patients from receiving, reproductive health services, a civil right secured by the FACE Act. As part of the conspiracy, the defendants participated in the “Michigan Holiness Revival Tour,” a camping tour organized by Calvin Zastrow with the express purpose of blockading a reproductive health clinic during the second week of the tour.

During the blockade, the defendants sat or stood in front of the entrances to the clinic so that patients and employees could not enter. Evidence at trial further proved that the defendants blocked a patient, S.S., from entering. The evidence showed that S.S. and her husband had made an appointment at the clinic after learning that their fetus suffered fatal abnormalities, and that attempting to continue carrying the pregnancy carried serious risks to S.S.’s health and fertility. The defendants blocked S.S. from obtaining reproductive health care.

The evidence further proved that Calvin and Eva Zastrow followed a clinic employee around the building in order to prevent her from entering an emergency exit, and that Gallagher and Edl attempted to stall the Sterling Heights Police Department in order to prolong the blockade. Evidence at trial further proved that the defendants violated the FACE Act by using physical obstruction to interfere with the clinic’s employees and patients because the clinic was providing, and patients were seeking, reproductive health services.

According to evidence presented at trial, Edl and Idoni physically obstructed access to a second clinic, in Saginaw, Michigan, on April 16, 2021. The evidence proved that Edl obstructed access by sitting in front of one entrance with a doorstop wedged under the door such that the door could not be opened from the inside, while Idoni used a bicycle lock to chain herself in front of a second door. The evidence proved that Edl and Idoni violated the FACE Act by using physical obstruction to interfere with the clinic’s employees and patients because the clinic was providing, and patients were seeking, reproductive health services

Off topic wall of cut and paste.

 

[OldFlame]

I was basically thinking the same thing

I've had that thing on ignore since it insisted that Biden showering with his daughter was perfectly normal. It has nothing but rot for a brain, not worth reading or responding to.

 

[MarathonMike]

Looks like they have arrested two women on federal charges as of this morning. Good! Get them all!

Good news! The Leftist trash must be held accountable. Find out who is paying them and throw him/them in jail.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Maybe, maybe not. The protestors at the church didn't barricade the doors, that much is clear, which makes their offenses less overt.

Lemon didn't do anything wrong, you're just going after him out of pure hatred.

Cease your nonsense, asshole. Seriously

 

[DukeU]

Has already been provided in the thread.

Their convictions were wiped away by Trump’s pardon.

Thanks.

I had not heard of this case.

They deserved to be prosecuted, even though I'm against most abortions. People have no right to stop others of legal activity.

 

[Marener]

Cease your nonsense, asshole. Seriously

Fun fact, if protestors were to walk into an abortion clinic and do exactly the same thing, this DoJ has a policy that says they wouldn't prosecute them.

**** that.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Fun fact, if protestors were to walk into an abortion clinic and do exactly the same thing, this DoJ has a policy that says they wouldn't prosecute them.

**** that.

Fun fact, fuckwad it works both ways

You're a fckn ridiculous ass clown