Army Falls Short

[protectionist]

Understandable. Who's eager to have an idiot like Trump be their boss?

APNewsBreak: Army misses 2018 recruiting goal

Are YOU as much of an "idiot" as he is ?

You have a private 757 jet ?

A 281 foot yacht ?

Real estate holdings all over the world ?

Do you get paid million$$$ by companies just to have your name on their products ?

Did you get yourself elected POTUS, and then have GDP rise to 4.2% unemployment drop to 3.8%, and Median income rise to $61,400/yr ? (highest ever)

 

[martybegan]

When civilian unemployment is at an all-time low, the Military becomes a less attractive alternative.

So you folks are now ADMITTING to the fact that the Military is an option to mainly the poor of America, yes?

It's always been a stepping stone for people who otherwise can't get higher education on their own.

My dad enlisted in the Navy because it was there and it had the skill training he wanted (aviation mechanic)

He was also the youngest of 4 sons of my widowed grandmother.

 

[Borillar]

Another example of the idiot OP being wrong and not being able to admit it

Not wrong.

The recruitment fell short for the first time since 2005. We've had low unemployment for 5 years now.

That's not the reason.

Try harder.

you think it is because of Trump??
???!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!?

Could be in the back of people's minds. Dude has been doing a lot of saber rattling. Folks who have been watching servicemen going to Iraq or Afghanistan for multiple deployments might not be so keen to sign up for a potential deployment to Iran or North Korea.

 

[Dale Smith]

Another example of the idiot OP being wrong and not being able to admit it

Not wrong.

The recruitment fell short for the first time since 2005. We've had low unemployment for 5 years now.

That's not the reason.

Try harder.

you think it is because of Trump??
???!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!?

Could be in the back of people's minds. Dude has been doing a lot of saber rattling. Folks who have been watching servicemen going to Iraq or Afghanistan for multiple deployments might not be so keen to sign up for a potential deployment to Iran or North Korea.

Seems you have forgotten Barrypuppet's "Line in the sand" about Syria over a false flag "chemical attack" which was actually done by USA.INC's proxy army known as ISIS.....

 

[ABikerSailor]

Another example of the idiot OP being wrong and not being able to admit it

Not wrong.

The recruitment fell short for the first time since 2005. We've had low unemployment for 5 years now.

That's not the reason.

Try harder.

You mean serving food is a career?

Yes serving food can be a career. When I was in, they were called Mess Management Specialists, and when they got into the higher ranks (E5 and above), they could apply to be sent to chef schools for more training.

Believe it or not, it's a fairly decent job.

 

[ABikerSailor]

When civilian unemployment is at an all-time low, the Military becomes a less attractive alternative.

So you folks are now ADMITTING to the fact that the Military is an option to mainly the poor of America, yes?

It's always been a stepping stone for people who otherwise can't get higher education on their own.

My dad enlisted in the Navy because it was there and it had the skill training he wanted (aviation mechanic)

He was also the youngest of 4 sons of my widowed grandmother.

I enlisted in the military because I didn't want to work in the stockyards. Getting ran over by big ass bulls wasn't really my idea of fun. But, my Grandparents said they were breaking my plate when I turned 18, so I had to find some gainful employment.

I didn't want to join the Air Force, because I grew up in an AF town (Great Falls MT, home to Malmstrom AF base).

I checked in with the Marines, but decided that I didn't want to be a bullet sponge either.

I checked with the Army, but although I enjoyed camping as a hobby growing up in Montana, as a lifestyle, I thought it left a bit to be desired.

Then, I went and talked to the Navy recruiter. He told me of all the countries he'd been to, the things that he'd seen, and also sold me by saying that I would be taking my house with me on deployment, because I'd be living on the ship. Would have AC in the summer, and heat in the winter, as well as be able to get a hot meal 95 percent of the time, and only would do box lunches on days where we were running battle drills.

20 years, 26 different countries and 49 different states later, I'm a happy Navy retiree.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Despite offering all kinds of bribes, the army fell short in recruiting. Of course they blame the economy . Which is a bunch of crap . But a great excuse to ask for more money !

Kids aren’t joining cause they don’t trust our leadership. And they defiantly don’t trust that Trump won’t ship there ass to some stupid war .

And who can blame them? Kids today and their family have seen the endless war BS and want no part of it .

Strong economy fuels rare shortfall in Army recruits, says major general

You are a moron, there has always been a correlation between the economy and recruiting.

This goes back 30 or more years.

Educate yourself before posting such tripe


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Well explain to us morons how this is the first time they missed the quota since 2005!? Even though the economy has been in upswing for years now ?

Shit happens. When I was on recruiting for the Marine Corps they made a huge issue out of us (as in the Corps in general) hitting goal for 100 straight months, we even got a cool coin that was made to commemorate the event. 4 months after getting the coin, we missed goal.

Two things impact recruitment, the economy and if there is a war going on. I started recruiting duty in 2003, the economy was still recovering and we were kicking Iraq's ass. We were turning away people left and right and hitting our number for the month by the 12th to 15th. Fast forward 13 months and people were dying at a high rate and the economy had recovered and we were hitting mission on the last day of the month after approving waivers that were denied 2 weeks prior.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When civilian unemployment is at an all-time low, the Military becomes a less attractive alternative.

So you folks are now ADMITTING to the fact that the Military is an option to mainly the poor of America, yes?

Not at all, in a booming economy everyone has trouble getting enough qualified job applicants, from McDonalds to Google.

 

[fncceo]

When civilian unemployment is at an all-time low, the Military becomes a less attractive alternative.

So you folks are now ADMITTING to the fact that the Military is an option to mainly the poor of America, yes?

What do you mean, 'you folks'?

 

[Timmy]

Another example of the idiot OP being wrong and not being able to admit it

Not wrong.

The recruitment fell short for the first time since 2005. We've had low unemployment for 5 years now.

That's not the reason.

Try harder.

you think it is because of Trump??
???!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!?

Could be in the back of people's minds. Dude has been doing a lot of saber rattling. Folks who have been watching servicemen going to Iraq or Afghanistan for multiple deployments might not be so keen to sign up for a potential deployment to Iran or North Korea.

Seems you have forgotten Barrypuppet's "Line in the sand" about Syria over a false flag "chemical attack" which was actually done by USA.INC's proxy army known as ISIS.....

Didn’t trump attack Syria too?

Still don’t get why this was moved out of politics .

 

[Dale Smith]

Another example of the idiot OP being wrong and not being able to admit it

Not wrong.

The recruitment fell short for the first time since 2005. We've had low unemployment for 5 years now.

That's not the reason.

Try harder.

you think it is because of Trump??
???!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!?

Could be in the back of people's minds. Dude has been doing a lot of saber rattling. Folks who have been watching servicemen going to Iraq or Afghanistan for multiple deployments might not be so keen to sign up for a potential deployment to Iran or North Korea.

Seems you have forgotten Barrypuppet's "Line in the sand" about Syria over a false flag "chemical attack" which was actually done by USA.INC's proxy army known as ISIS.....

Didn’t trump attack Syria too?

Still don’t get why this was moved out of politics .

A half-hearted bombing that hopefully hit what is left of the CIA backed ISIS proxy army...and he certainly never mentioned boots on the ground in Syria like Barrypuppet was pushing.

 

[Timmy]

Another example of the idiot OP being wrong and not being able to admit it

Not wrong.

The recruitment fell short for the first time since 2005. We've had low unemployment for 5 years now.

That's not the reason.

Try harder.

you think it is because of Trump??
???!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!?

Could be in the back of people's minds. Dude has been doing a lot of saber rattling. Folks who have been watching servicemen going to Iraq or Afghanistan for multiple deployments might not be so keen to sign up for a potential deployment to Iran or North Korea.

I’d say everyone on us knows a young PTSD , disabled vet . And for what ? Iraq and Afghanistan wars were/are total disasters .

 

[Timmy]

Despite offering all kinds of bribes, the army fell short in recruiting. Of course they blame the economy . Which is a bunch of crap . But a great excuse to ask for more money !

Kids aren’t joining cause they don’t trust our leadership. And they defiantly don’t trust that Trump won’t ship there ass to some stupid war .

And who can blame them? Kids today and their family have seen the endless war BS and want no part of it .

Strong economy fuels rare shortfall in Army recruits, says major general

You are a moron, there has always been a correlation between the economy and recruiting.

This goes back 30 or more years.

Educate yourself before posting such tripe


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Well explain to us morons how this is the first time they missed the quota since 2005!? Even though the economy has been in upswing for years now ?

Shit happens. When I was on recruiting for the Marine Corps they made a huge issue out of us (as in the Corps in general) hitting goal for 100 straight months, we even got a cool coin that was made to commemorate the event. 4 months after getting the coin, we missed goal.

Two things impact recruitment, the economy and if there is a war going on. I started recruiting duty in 2003, the economy was still recovering and we were kicking Iraq's ass. We were turning away people left and right and hitting our number for the month by the 12th to 15th. Fast forward 13 months and people were dying at a high rate and the economy had recovered and we were hitting mission on the last day of the month after approving waivers that were denied 2 weeks prior.

Story was about Army . Marines always do well because of their rep. I bet Navy and Air do well also .

People probably pass on Army cause they don’t want to be front line Korea cannon fodder.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Despite offering all kinds of bribes, the army fell short in recruiting. Of course they blame the economy . Which is a bunch of crap . But a great excuse to ask for more money !

Kids aren’t joining cause they don’t trust our leadership. And they defiantly don’t trust that Trump won’t ship there ass to some stupid war .

And who can blame them? Kids today and their family have seen the endless war BS and want no part of it .

Strong economy fuels rare shortfall in Army recruits, says major general

You are a moron, there has always been a correlation between the economy and recruiting.

This goes back 30 or more years.

Educate yourself before posting such tripe


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Well explain to us morons how this is the first time they missed the quota since 2005!? Even though the economy has been in upswing for years now ?

Shit happens. When I was on recruiting for the Marine Corps they made a huge issue out of us (as in the Corps in general) hitting goal for 100 straight months, we even got a cool coin that was made to commemorate the event. 4 months after getting the coin, we missed goal.

Two things impact recruitment, the economy and if there is a war going on. I started recruiting duty in 2003, the economy was still recovering and we were kicking Iraq's ass. We were turning away people left and right and hitting our number for the month by the 12th to 15th. Fast forward 13 months and people were dying at a high rate and the economy had recovered and we were hitting mission on the last day of the month after approving waivers that were denied 2 weeks prior.

Story was about Army . Marines always do well because of their rep. I bet Navy and Air do well also .

People probably pass on Army cause they don’t want to be front line Korea cannon fodder.

The Army struggles because they have such high numbers to fill, they are huge. Though my story was bout the Marines, the same forces in play affect all the services.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Despite offering all kinds of bribes, the army fell short in recruiting. Of course they blame the economy . Which is a bunch of crap . But a great excuse to ask for more money !

Kids aren’t joining cause they don’t trust our leadership. And they defiantly don’t trust that Trump won’t ship there ass to some stupid war .

And who can blame them? Kids today and their family have seen the endless war BS and want no part of it .

Strong economy fuels rare shortfall in Army recruits, says major general

You are a moron, there has always been a correlation between the economy and recruiting.

This goes back 30 or more years.

Educate yourself before posting such tripe


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Well explain to us morons how this is the first time they missed the quota since 2005!? Even though the economy has been in upswing for years now ?

Shit happens. When I was on recruiting for the Marine Corps they made a huge issue out of us (as in the Corps in general) hitting goal for 100 straight months, we even got a cool coin that was made to commemorate the event. 4 months after getting the coin, we missed goal.

Two things impact recruitment, the economy and if there is a war going on. I started recruiting duty in 2003, the economy was still recovering and we were kicking Iraq's ass. We were turning away people left and right and hitting our number for the month by the 12th to 15th. Fast forward 13 months and people were dying at a high rate and the economy had recovered and we were hitting mission on the last day of the month after approving waivers that were denied 2 weeks prior.

Story was about Army . Marines always do well because of their rep. I bet Navy and Air do well also .

People probably pass on Army cause they don’t want to be front line Korea cannon fodder.

The Navy does well because of not only their reputation, but also because they have one of the fastest advancement paths of all the services, and offer a GREAT opportunity for travel. Get on sea duty, chances are you're gonna hit at least 10 countries on that tour. Other services? They generally end up going to a base and staying there for 3 to 4 years, with the only travel being deployed to a war zone.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Despite offering all kinds of bribes, the army fell short in recruiting. Of course they blame the economy . Which is a bunch of crap . But a great excuse to ask for more money !

Kids aren’t joining cause they don’t trust our leadership. And they defiantly don’t trust that Trump won’t ship there ass to some stupid war .

And who can blame them? Kids today and their family have seen the endless war BS and want no part of it .

Strong economy fuels rare shortfall in Army recruits, says major general

You are a moron, there has always been a correlation between the economy and recruiting.

This goes back 30 or more years.

Educate yourself before posting such tripe


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Well explain to us morons how this is the first time they missed the quota since 2005!? Even though the economy has been in upswing for years now ?

Shit happens. When I was on recruiting for the Marine Corps they made a huge issue out of us (as in the Corps in general) hitting goal for 100 straight months, we even got a cool coin that was made to commemorate the event. 4 months after getting the coin, we missed goal.

Two things impact recruitment, the economy and if there is a war going on. I started recruiting duty in 2003, the economy was still recovering and we were kicking Iraq's ass. We were turning away people left and right and hitting our number for the month by the 12th to 15th. Fast forward 13 months and people were dying at a high rate and the economy had recovered and we were hitting mission on the last day of the month after approving waivers that were denied 2 weeks prior.

Story was about Army . Marines always do well because of their rep. I bet Navy and Air do well also .

People probably pass on Army cause they don’t want to be front line Korea cannon fodder.

The Navy does well because of not only their reputation, but also because they have one of the fastest advancement paths of all the services, and offer a GREAT opportunity for travel. Get on sea duty, chances are you're gonna hit at least 10 countries on that tour. Other services? They generally end up going to a base and staying there for 3 to 4 years, with the only travel being deployed to a war zone.

That and they trick so many people into trying to become SEALS! Knowing they will fail and then the Navy can do anything they want with them

 

[ABikerSailor]

You are a moron, there has always been a correlation between the economy and recruiting.

This goes back 30 or more years.

Educate yourself before posting such tripe


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Well explain to us morons how this is the first time they missed the quota since 2005!? Even though the economy has been in upswing for years now ?

Shit happens. When I was on recruiting for the Marine Corps they made a huge issue out of us (as in the Corps in general) hitting goal for 100 straight months, we even got a cool coin that was made to commemorate the event. 4 months after getting the coin, we missed goal.

Two things impact recruitment, the economy and if there is a war going on. I started recruiting duty in 2003, the economy was still recovering and we were kicking Iraq's ass. We were turning away people left and right and hitting our number for the month by the 12th to 15th. Fast forward 13 months and people were dying at a high rate and the economy had recovered and we were hitting mission on the last day of the month after approving waivers that were denied 2 weeks prior.

Story was about Army . Marines always do well because of their rep. I bet Navy and Air do well also .

People probably pass on Army cause they don’t want to be front line Korea cannon fodder.

The Navy does well because of not only their reputation, but also because they have one of the fastest advancement paths of all the services, and offer a GREAT opportunity for travel. Get on sea duty, chances are you're gonna hit at least 10 countries on that tour. Other services? They generally end up going to a base and staying there for 3 to 4 years, with the only travel being deployed to a war zone.

That and they trick so many people into trying to become SEALS! Knowing they will fail and then the Navy can do anything they want with them

Actually, no they don't. The people who ask for the SEAL program generally have been wanting to be one since they were kids, and they know how hard it is to be one. And, if a person actually does qualify to come in under a SEAL program (billets are rare for initial enlistees by the way), they understand that the chances of making it all the way through are slim. And, the physical requirements for SEAL program are way more strict than any other program. Vision has to be no worse than 20/70, correctable to 20/20. LASIK surgery will disqualify you (or at least, it did back in 2002).

Generally, most of the SEAL applicants come from those already in the fleet. And, if 1000 people apply, only 100 will be accepted for BUDs. Of that 100 that qualify, only 30 to 40 will make it through. They have an outrageous attrition rate.

 

[Timmy]

Understandable. Who's eager to have an idiot like Trump be their boss?

APNewsBreak: Army misses 2018 recruiting goal

Are YOU as much of an "idiot" as he is ?

You have a private 757 jet ?

A 281 foot yacht ?

Real estate holdings all over the world ?

Do you get paid million$$$ by companies just to have your name on their products ?

Did you get yourself elected POTUS, and then have GDP rise to 4.2% unemployment drop to 3.8%, and Median income rise to $61,400/yr ? (highest ever)

Trumped walked into a 4.8 UE rate .

A one % drop causes the army to not bring in recruiting?

 

[Asclepias]

When civilian unemployment is at an all-time low, the Military becomes a less attractive alternative.

So you folks are now ADMITTING to the fact that the Military is an option to mainly the poor of America, yes?

Yeah I went to the military for a couple of reasons. Get money for college. Get away from the crooked cops and gang bangers, and get away from my mom telling me what to do. I even told her that and she laughed at me because I had a real bad problem with authority when I was a teen.

 

[Timmy]

Oh, and kudos to the Army General blaming the economy for his failure . He’s bacially blowing smoke up Trumps ass. “Gosh Commander In Chief , you’ve done so awesome with the economy that I can’t even get guys to join !” . Lol. Well played !