Argument That Illegals don't Vote Continues To 'Die' a 'Slow Death'

[postman]

The issue should be 'Illegals ARE voting and everything that can be done to protect the process for electing US Presidents / politicians and prevent the law from being broken should be done....IMHO.

A guy stole an M1 abrams tank. Are they going spend millions and millions to put anti-theft systems onto them in order to stop that?

No. Because the cost is much higher than the likelihood it will happen again.

 

[jc456]

The issue should be 'Illegals ARE voting and everything that can be done to protect the process for electing US Presidents / politicians and prevent the law from being broken should be done....IMHO.

A guy stole an M1 abrams tank. Are they going spend millions and millions to put anti-theft systems onto them in order to stop that?

No. Because the cost is much higher than the likelihood it will happen again.

what was this deflection for?

 

[postman]

Toss in the punishment of immediately being deported and your personal info being placed in a database. If caught EVER again in the US you go to jail for a LONG time.

And if they put Juan Ortiz into the database, and your name happens to be Juan Ortiz, born and raised in the USA.

 

[postman]

If the poll included San Francisco, for local elections they're allowed to.

Yeah, where doe the US Constitution fit into that?

States rights.

 

[Care4all]

Oh and this applies just as easily as your statement, no?

"I'd knowed Jimmy ever since we was young-uns and Jimmy always voted straight ticket Republican, so's I voted for him, in his memory."

I personally never have heard a Republican say that while I have heard about half a dozen Democrats say things very similar.

So no, I don think that one can as easily say that at all.

Point being that the few people who vote illegally, are and will always be, BIPARTISAN.

Then why isnt the effort to validate and protect the validity of the voting process BIPARTISAN?

And just because it is in your view "only a few votes" does not make it OK, does it? Many elections are decided by a handful of votes, like a certain Senator from Minnesota can attest, finally having one when numerous recounts finally gave him a majority.

An extra thousand or so illegal votes can paper over that much faster dont you think?

Easy Peasy...

Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all....

When all the States need to do is check every person registered or registering to vote against e-verify, which identifies citizens vs non citizens.

As many judges have stated Republicans have purposely and with surgical precision developed these new id laws to specifically prevent CITIZENS from voting who primarily vote Democratic.

 

[jc456]

Toss in the punishment of immediately being deported and your personal info being placed in a database. If caught EVER again in the US you go to jail for a LONG time.

And if they put Juan Ortiz into the database, and your name happens to be Juan Ortiz, born and raised in the USA.

well it would be funny if they both were in the same precinct right?

 

[MrShangles]

No time to check out illegals voting, but those Russians that's different, what's the count up to now for illegal Russian votes?
Must be a huge number but I can't seem to find anything solid about that (proof).


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[jc456]

Oh and this applies just as easily as your statement, no?

"I'd knowed Jimmy ever since we was young-uns and Jimmy always voted straight ticket Republican, so's I voted for him, in his memory."

I personally never have heard a Republican say that while I have heard about half a dozen Democrats say things very similar.

So no, I don think that one can as easily say that at all.

Point being that the few people who vote illegally, are and will always be, BIPARTISAN.

Then why isnt the effort to validate and protect the validity of the voting process BIPARTISAN?

And just because it is in your view "only a few votes" does not make it OK, does it? Many elections are decided by a handful of votes, like a certain Senator from Minnesota can attest, finally having one when numerous recounts finally gave him a majority.

An extra thousand or so illegal votes can paper over that much faster dont you think?

Easy Peasy...

Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all....

When all the States need to do is check every person registered or registering to vote against e-verify, which identifies citizens vs non citizens.

As many judges have stated Republicans have purposely and with surgical precision developed these new id laws to specifically prevent CITIZENS from voting who primarily vote Democratic.

Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all....

how do they buy cigarettes and liquor then? I'll also assume they can't travel cause you need an ID to board a plane. why isn't that of concern for you? Now they can't fly either.

 

[postman]

what was this deflection for?

Someone posted that voter ID laws cost nothing. You need the people to enforce the law, the people to investigate, the people to oversee the databases, people, people, people, to do a lot of things. And people cost money. For ten billion dollars you can guarantee that zero illegals will vote. For a million dollars some are going to sneak by. It's all about cost vs benefit. Perfect costs a lot of money.

 

[jc456]

No time to check out illegals voting, but those Russians that's different, what's the count up to now for illegal Russian votes?
Must be a huge number but I can't seem to find anything solid about that (proof).


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dude, that is a spectacular post, thank you!!!!! I never went there, but I will now.

 

[postman]

Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all.....

There were probably thousands of citizens disenfranchised in Ohio, in an effort to stop 27 illegals from voting.

 

[jc456]

what was this deflection for?

Someone posted that voter ID laws cost nothing. You need the people to enforce the law, the people to investigate, the people to oversee the databases, people, people, people, to do a lot of things. And people cost money. For ten billion dollars you can guarantee that zero illegals will vote. For a million dollars some are going to sneak by. It's all about cost vs benefit. Perfect costs a lot of money.

the department already exists. It would be a quick enhancement in procedures already in place. It isn't rocket science.

 

[jc456]

Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all.....

There were probably thousands of citizens disenfranchised in Ohio, in an effort to stop 27 illegals from voting.

Why didn't you answer my questions? are you afraid too? too fking funny you pieces of trash protecting illegals and dissing inner city children.

 

[postman]

And if they put Juan Ortiz into the database, and your name happens to be Juan Ortiz, born and raised in the USA.

well it would be funny if they both were in the same precinct right?

There are at least three George Bush's, registered to vote in Texas.

 

[postman]

the department already exists. It would be a quick enhancement in procedures already in place. It isn't rocket science.

And a hell of a lot of overtime.

 

[easyt65]

Easy Peasy...
Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all....

That's why you need an ID to get a passport, get a library card, cash a check, buy alcohol....and that's why photo IDs are FREE. Groups will even drive you to get one...




FAIL!

 

[jc456]

And if they put Juan Ortiz into the database, and your name happens to be Juan Ortiz, born and raised in the USA.

well it would be funny if they both were in the same precinct right?

There are at least three George Bush's, registered to vote in Texas.

all in the same precinct you think? they do have birth dates right?

 

[Camp]

No time to check out illegals voting, but those Russians that's different, what's the count up to now for illegal Russian votes?
Must be a huge number but I can't seem to find anything solid about that (proof).


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You would have to be intelligent enough to comprehend how the Russians are accused of interfering with the election. The cult defense talking points for the dopey cult followers doesn't do it.

 

[postman]

Why didn't you answer my questions? are you afraid too? too fking funny you pieces of trash protecting illegals and dissing inner city children.

If you want a question answered, you may have to repeat it. It was likely buried in a mile long post,so you start kicking and screaming about it being ignored.

 

[Care4all]

Oh and this applies just as easily as your statement, no?

"I'd knowed Jimmy ever since we was young-uns and Jimmy always voted straight ticket Republican, so's I voted for him, in his memory."

I personally never have heard a Republican say that while I have heard about half a dozen Democrats say things very similar.

So no, I don think that one can as easily say that at all.

Point being that the few people who vote illegally, are and will always be, BIPARTISAN.

Then why isnt the effort to validate and protect the validity of the voting process BIPARTISAN?

And just because it is in your view "only a few votes" does not make it OK, does it? Many elections are decided by a handful of votes, like a certain Senator from Minnesota can attest, finally having one when numerous recounts finally gave him a majority.

An extra thousand or so illegal votes can paper over that much faster dont you think?

Easy Peasy...

Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all....

When all the States need to do is check every person registered or registering to vote against e-verify, which identifies citizens vs non citizens.

As many judges have stated Republicans have purposely and with surgical precision developed these new id laws to specifically prevent CITIZENS from voting who primarily vote Democratic.

Th Republicans are simply trying to prevent CITIZENS from voting by requiring an GOVT ISSUED PHOTO ID which millions of the poorest, and disabled and elderly citizens do not have...while the wealthier who own cars and drivers licenses have to go through no hurdle at all....

how do they buy cigarettes and liquor then? I'll also assume they can't travel cause you need an ID to board a plane. why isn't that of concern for you? Now they can't fly either.

They are the poorest among us and the disabld among us and the elderly among us, and you actually think they gt on airplanes and travel and ned a govt id with a picture?

and the point is, they have lived their entire lives in the USA, without needing a govt issued photo id and have voted their entire lives without needing a govt issued photo id, by using other forms of id to prove they are the person registered to vote, that now, all of a sudden, are not allowed.

And also, since illegals can get driver's licenses, exactly how does this voter id at the polls stop them from voting?

This measure is simply a measure to prevent or curb the POOR, DISABLED, AND ELDERLY citizens who do not drive, from voting.

All the States should do, is check every registered voter, against e-verify to see if they are citizens or not, and if they are NOT, then do not approv their registration, and or remove them from the voter rolls, so their names ar not evn on the voter rolls.

WHY DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT...???