Are you born gay?

glockmail said:
I don't think it is right to use "gay" as an insult, be it to kagom, the reference to post 1, or me.

That's a silly question, don't you think? Aren't most humans born with the ability to reproduce?
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gay is not an insult it is how thay gay community refers to themselves....ass bandit or fudgepacker would be an insult.

most humans are not born gay either what is your point oh ya, your opening premise that gay people can't reproduce so they can not be born gay and thus it can not be genetic. ya that isn't silly.

why do you care if they are gay or not? why do you care if they choose to be gay or are born gay?
 
manu1959 said:
gay is not an insult it is how thay gay community refers to themselves....ass bandit or fudgepacker would be an insult.

most humans are not born gay either what is your point oh ya, your opening premise that gay people can't reproduce so they can not be born gay and thus it can not be genetic. ya that isn't silly.

why do you care if they are gay or not? why do you care if they choose to be gay or are born gay?
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Look, you obviously inferred an insult by calling kagnom gay, and why would I refer to his post (because you thought he posts #1). Can;t yo be man enouh to admit the truth? Stand up for yourself!

Why do I care? Re-read post 21.
 
glockmail said:
Look, you obviously inferred an insult by calling kagnom gay, and why would I refer to his post (because you thought he posts #1). Can;t yo be man enouh to admit the truth? Stand up for yourself!

Why do I care? Re-read post 21.
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no ... you infered the insult .... i implied irony that you were citing a post by a gay guy as the basis for your argument that, gays can not not be born gay ....

you know....it has become clear to me now that you find oral and anal sex personally frightening, bad experience? and have projected that fear onto the gay community and blame them for that fear and until you seek counseling and admit your fear and stop hiding behinde iterpreations of the bible that Jeff has pointed out are not there you will never be able to understand the plight of your fellow man ....

off to read post 21
 
glockmail said:
I disagree, as it goes to the crux of the issue, can they being treated differently under US laws? The Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal, therefore if someone is born with a trait, then that trait should have no bearing on their rights. But if someone chooses to have a trait, then that person can legally be treated differently.
Example of chosen traits are a criminal (may be incarcerated) or a medical doctor (may be able to prescribe narcotics).
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back on topic.....

this is why you care if they a born gay?

because if they are not, and they have chosen the trait they can be legally discriminated against?

well then ...... if that is what you want ..... but listen up .... you chose to be a christian, you were not born that way, and there is no genetic proof to back you up .... so when society legaly discrimates against you .... no complaining
 
manu1959 said:
no ... you infered the insult .... i implied irony that you were citing a post by a gay guy as the basis for your argument that, gays can not not be born gay ....

you know....it has become clear to me now that you find oral and anal sex personally frightening, bad experience? and have projected that fear onto the gay community and blame them for that fear and until you seek counseling and admit your fear and stop hiding behinde iterpreations of the bible that Jeff has pointed out are not there you will never be able to understand the plight of your fellow man ....

off to read post 21
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This post is nearly incomprehensible. And now you think you are a pshrink as well. Or are these merely your attempt at more insults, because you disagree with me?
 
glockmail said:
This post is nearly incomprehensible. And now you think you are a pshrink as well. Or are these merely your attempt at more insults, because you disagree with me?
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no i read post 21 as you instructed ... i understand who you are now.
 
manu1959 said:
back on topic.....

this is why you care if they a born gay?

because if they are not, and they have chosen the trait they can be legally discriminated against?

well then ...... if that is what you want ..... but listen up .... you chose to be a christian, you were not born that way, and there is no genetic proof to back you up .... so when society legaly discrimates against you .... no complaining
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to manu1959 again.
 
glockmail said:
Great, then now you know why it is important to understand if gays are born that way or not.
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So, if they're born gay, they can't be legally discriminated against, but if they choose to be gay, then discriminate away?
 
glockmail said:
I disagree, as it goes to the crux of the issue, can they being treated differently under US laws? The Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal, therefore if someone is born with a trait, then that trait should have no bearing on their rights. But if someone chooses to have a trait, then that person can legally be treated differently.

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WOW, ya learn something new everyday! I never knew The Declaration of Independence was law.

I thought "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Was I ever wrong! I am going to start my "that person can legally be treated differently" list together right away.:D

Thanks Glockmail, I'm on the right track now! I'm free to discriminate against anyone that is not just like me, by law too. Right? That includes thinking like me and believing like me right, that is a trait, ya know?:gross2:

*This post is intentionally just as stupid as post #21*
 
glockmail said:
Perhaps you could point out where I said it was.:)
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It isn't the "basis" of our laws either.

Just curious... why do you keep doing that? You spout ridiculous stuff, get called on it and try to pretend you didn't say what you said.

I also think you'll find that Mr. P doesn't need lessons in law from you, so you might want to rethink that one, too.
 
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jillian said:
It isn't the "basis" of our laws either.

Just curious... why do you keep doing that? You spout ridiculous stuff, get called on it and try to pretend you didn't say what you said.

I also think you'll find that Mr. P doesn't need lessons in law from you, so you might want to rethink that one, too.
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1. Of course it is the basis for US laws. The DOI represents the ideals that the Constitution attempted to codify.
2. Perhaps you could point out where I was "called on it", and then again where I tried 'to pretend I didn't say it'.
3. I asked you several times to point out where I have made statements that you claim that I have made, and instead you consistently sidestep. Just curious... why do you keep doing that?
 
glockmail said:
1. Of course it is the basis for US laws. The DOI represents the ideals that the Constitution attempted to codify.
2. Perhaps you could point out where I was "called on it", and then again where I tried 'to pretend I didn't say it'.
3. I asked you several times to point out where I have made statements that you claim that I have made, and instead you consistently sidestep. Just curious... why do you keep doing that?
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Your signature should be "perhaps you could point out where I said that"
 
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