Are you born gay?

[manu1959]

Pervert. :talk2:

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[Said1]

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That's right. I saw him on the cover of "Hand Jobs and Oral Sex for Dummies'. Or was it 'The begginers guide to the art of 69'. Maybe both. Those are my friends books, btw, she's a real nympho.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Lets not let this thread get sidetracked as before. I think it has gotten rather childish. I have been tossed off other boards for beating up too badly on that type of behavior.

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Oh you're so scary. Mr. banned from other message boards. :talk2:

 

[The ClayTaurus]

As I said before, I use the Bible as a guide for what is right and wrong, and in my opinion it is quite clear that oral and anal sex are to be considered perverted and therefore sinful. I have attempted to describe tactfully what “face to face” means to me, and you two simply refuse to let it go at that, instead wanting to be cute and turn this thread into a discussion about specific sex acts.

Perverted heterosexual sex and homosexual sex and both sins. However sins are relative, and homosexuality is among the worst of the sins out there. Far worse than something you might do with your lover in the privacy of your own bedroom. The reason is that the beginning of homosexuality is documented in Genesis 9:20-25, and it has caused a rift in mankind ever since. In contemporary history, it has manifested itself into the AIDS epidemic, causing misery, death and pain among literally hundreds of millions of people.

So when you said

They are all in the same dirty, sick tent.

you meant like a big tent, with dividing walls. A multi-level tent.

 

[glockmail]

I'll take that to mean that you can't Biblically justify condemning oral sex between a married couple.



I'm not saying it's not a grave sin. But many other sins are also tolerated in the church, as the author says homosexuality is, like greed and gluttony. Are these sins somehow worse because they are tolerated? Or is the toleration of those sins the real issue?

You can take it that way if you wish, and you will be wrong.

Perhaps homosexuality is lees tolerated becasue it is so grave: pick your fights.

 

[glockmail]

so you are using a gay guy as your source?

That didn't take long for you to resort to the "he's gay" insult.

 

[glockmail]

So when you said you meant like a big tent, with dividing walls. A multi-level tent.

Whatever. Not my kind of tent.

 

[manu1959]

That didn't take long for you to resort to the "he's gay" insult.

no it actually took quite a while.....plus i thought kagom started the thread and he is gay.....btw are you telling me you are not a gay dude trapped in womans body? (ps the avatar is a touch fem)

but since you started the thread....humans are born without the abilty to reproduce all the time yet they continue to be born....why is that?

 

[Gunny]

no it actually took quite a while.....plus i thought kagom started the thread and he is gay.....btw are you telling me you are not a gay dude trapped in womans body? (ps the avatar is a touch fem)

but since you started the thread....humans are born without the abilty to reproduce all the time yet they continue to be born....why is that?

Are we actually back on topic?

Sterility is almost ALWAYS due to physical malfunction. It hasn't been proven to be genetic anymore than homosexuality has. It is manifested only by physical homosexual behavior, just as sterility is manifested only by the physical inability to reproduce.

 

[manu1959]

Are we actually back on topic?

Sterility is almost ALWAYS due to physical malfunction. It hasn't been proven to be genetic anymore than homosexuality has. It is manifested only by physical homosexual behavior, just as sterility is manifested only by the physical inability to reproduce.

my doctor would tell you that you are wrong.

 

[Gunny]

my doctor would tell you that you are wrong.

Would he/she? Lots of gays try to tell me I'm wrong about homosexuality but I have yet to see REAL evidence that says otherwise.

I really don't see where you're going with an irrelevant comparison anyway. Sterility is not considered abnormal behavior by society, since it is a physcial condition not recognizable by John Q. Sterile people don't have "Sterile Pride Parades" and demand special laws that cater to them. Matter of fact, unless a sterile person happens to bring it up, no one knows.

 

[manu1959]

Would he/she? Lots of gays try to tell me I'm wrong about homosexuality but I have yet to see REAL evidence that says otherwise.

I really don't see where you're going with an irrelevant comparison anyway. Sterility is not considered abnormal behavior by society, since it is a physcial condition not recognizable by John Q. Sterile people don't have "Sterile Pride Parades" and demand special laws that cater to them. Matter of fact, unless a sterile person happens to bring it up, no one knows.

the opening premise of this debate was this and i quote from post 1
It is an obvious fact that Homosexuals cannot reproduce. Therefore someone cannot have a genetic homosexual parent. Since traits are passed on through generations, it is clear that the “trait” of homosexuality is not passed on through generations, but is in fact a learned response.

so....if born sterile which is a result of a chromosome or genetic flaw (and according to my doctor it is).....you are not able to reproduce....yet people continue to be born with that genetic flaw...it is pretty common.

thus my point is....the intial premis of this thread is flawed.

now i am not saying being gay is genetic or not...it is what it is.

personally i believe....some people choose to be gay, some may in fact be genetic and some may be a result of hormone baths during the last trimester of pregnancy....at the end of the day....don't care which it is really .... but no special parades ..... if you are one of us, as you claim, behave like it

 

[glockmail]

no it actually took quite a while.....plus i thought kagom started the thread and he is gay.....btw are you telling me you are not a gay dude trapped in womans body? (ps the avatar is a touch fem)

but since you started the thread....humans are born without the abilty to reproduce all the time yet they continue to be born....why is that?

I don't think it is right to use "gay" as an insult, be it to kagom, the reference to post 1, or me.

That's a silly question, don't you think? Aren't most humans born with the ability to reproduce?

 

[jillian]

I don't think it is right to use "gay" as an insult, be it to kagom, the reference to post 1, or me.

That's a silly question, don't you think? Aren't most humans born with the ability to reproduce?

Yes.... same as most humans are born heterosexual. Then there's the percentage of humans that are born infertile and the percentage born homosexual. Funny how that works.

 

[glockmail]

Yes.... same as most humans are born heterosexual. Then there's the percentage of humans that are born infertile and the percentage born homosexual. Funny how that works.

Funny how there's not a lobby group promoting everyone to accept infertility as natural, normal, and a benefit to society.

 

[jillian]

Funny how there's not a lobby group promoting everyone to accept infertility as natural, normal, and a benefit to society.

Maybe because there aren't nutters like you lobbying against them, eh?

 

[glockmail]

Maybe because there aren't nutters like you lobbying against them, eh?

You call me a "nutter" because I merely speak the truth. Does that qualify me as a lobbyist, well financed, well connected, with a huge prescence in Hollywood and Washington?

 

[jillian]

You call me a "nutter" because I merely speak the truth. Does that qualify me as a lobbyist, well financed, well connected, with a huge prescence in Hollywood and Washington?

No. I call you a nutter because your posts bear no rational relationship to reality... you know, like your above response -- which has nothing to do with what I said. After all, you're the one so concerned with staying on topic... but I guess that's unless it goes to your schizophrenic associations.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

You call me a "nutter" because I merely speak the truth. Does that qualify me as a lobbyist, well financed, well connected, with a huge prescence in Hollywood and Washington?

She didn't say you were a lobbyist. She said people LIKE you are lobbyists.

www.RIF.org

 

[glockmail]

No. I call you a nutter because your posts bear no rational relationship to reality... you know, like your above response -- which has nothing to do with what I said. After all, you're the one so concerned with staying on topic... but I guess that's unless it goes to your schizophrenic associations.

ROTFLMAO.
First you call me a "nutter", now you call me a "schizophrenic". :blah2: Do you have anything to say about the topic, or are you content with name calling and insults?