Are you born gay?

You are the one who appears to be inferring. If you want to talk about perverted sex acts, why don't you start a new thread?
Cute! You're trying to passive agressively turn this around into me being obsessed with perverted sexual acts! I bet you think you're so clever too! It's like the reversal of "you're a homophobe!"

Are you a DU hack?
 
..... which you siad in reference to oral and anal sex
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No, I said in reference to perverted gay sex.

You two need to start a new thread and talk about this amongst yourselves. I can understand exploring a new avenue in a discussion but this has obviously gotten out of hand.
 
Dude you lumped anyone who had non-biblical approved sex with homosexuals. We just wanted clarification on what was and wasn't biblical approved sex.

And you sit there and dodge and weave like Howard Dean. "Off topic" this. 'That's not what I said" that. If you don't wanna talk about it, just say "I made a statement that I don't feel like defending so leave me alone!"

We'll gladly oblige!

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No, I said in reference to perverted gay sex.

You two need to start a new thread and talk about this amongst yourselves. I can understand exploring a new avenue in a discussion but this has obviously gotten out of hand.
Gotten out of hand in that you've just seen the two walls of the corner you've painted yourself into.

But whatever, ta ta. Enjoy your night.
 
No, I said in reference to perverted gay sex.
You two need to start a new thread and talk about this amongst yourselves. I can understand exploring a new avenue in a discussion but this has obviously gotten out of hand.

is there non-perverted gay sex?
 
Dude you lumped anyone who had non-biblical approved sex with homosexuals. We just wanted clarification on what was and wasn't biblical approved sex.
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As I said before, I use the Bible as a guide for what is right and wrong, and in my opinion it is quite clear that oral and anal sex are to be considered perverted and therefore sinful. I have attempted to describe tactfully what “face to face” means to me, and you two simply refuse to let it go at that, instead wanting to be cute and turn this thread into a discussion about specific sex acts.

Perverted heterosexual sex and homosexual sex and both sins. However sins are relative, and homosexuality is among the worst of the sins out there. Far worse than something you might do with your lover in the privacy of your own bedroom. The reason is that the beginning of homosexuality is documented in Genesis 9:20-25, and it has caused a rift in mankind ever since. In contemporary history, it has manifested itself into the AIDS epidemic, causing misery, death and pain among literally hundreds of millions of people.
 
As I said before, I use the Bible as a guide for what is right and wrong, and in my opinion it is quite clear that oral and anal sex are to be considered perverted and therefore sinful. I have attempted to describe tactfully what “face to face” means to me, and you two simply refuse to let it go at that, instead wanting to be cute and turn this thread into a discussion about specific sex acts.

Perverted heterosexual sex and homosexual sex and both sins. However sins are relative, and homosexuality is among the worst of the sins out there. Far worse than something you might do with your lover in the privacy of your own bedroom. The reason is that the beginning of homosexuality is documented in Genesis 9:20-25, and it has caused a rift in mankind ever since. In contemporary history, it has manifested itself into the AIDS epidemic, causing misery, death and pain among literally hundreds of millions of people.

yes please don't turn this into a discussion about specific sex acts...shame on me.

by the by .... patient zero has been traced to African field workers slaughtering monkeys and coming in contact with infected blood then having straight sex in the brothels and those women spreading it ....

so back to the topic.... were you born gay or straight?
 
It is a common misconception that because the Bible does not address each and every specific act, that we may assume that the unmentioned are therefore acceptable, and that is clearly not the case.

If it's so clear, then I'm sure you can show me, Biblically speaking, why oral sex between a husband and wife is immoral behavior.
 
yes please don't turn this into a discussion about specific sex acts...shame on me.

by the by .... patient zero has been traced to African field workers slaughtering monkeys and coming in contact with infected blood then having straight sex in the brothels and those women spreading it ....

so back to the topic.... were you born gay or straight?

Imagine that. A disease spread by first by prostitution, then by homosexuality, both described as sins in the Bible.

I was born straight, just like you.
 
As I said before, I use the Bible as a guide for what is right and wrong, and in my opinion it is quite clear that oral and anal sex are to be considered perverted and therefore sinful. I have attempted to describe tactfully what “face to face” means to me, and you two simply refuse to let it go at that, instead wanting to be cute and turn this thread into a discussion about specific sex acts.

Using the phrase "face-to-face" from Song of Solomon to call all non-face-to-face sex sinful is thinner than Castila Flockhart after a weeklong fast. I hope you have better Biblical evidence than that.

Perverted heterosexual sex and homosexual sex and both sins. However sins are relative, and homosexuality is among the worst of the sins out there. Far worse than something you might do with your lover in the privacy of your own bedroom. The reason is that the beginning of homosexuality is documented in Genesis 9:20-25, and it has caused a rift in mankind ever since. In contemporary history, it has manifested itself into the AIDS epidemic, causing misery, death and pain among literally hundreds of millions of people.

While I agree that homosexuality is harmful and destructive, all sin is wrong in God's eyes, and to say that homosexuals are somehow 'bigger sinners' than others is incorrect.
 
Imagine that. A disease spread by first by prostitution, then by homosexuality, both described as sins in the Bible.

I was born straight, just like you.

yes imagine that....btw aids is still spread by straight people

if you can be born straight why can't you be born gay?
 
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While I agree that homosexuality is harmful and destructive, all sin is wrong in God's eyes, and to say that homosexuals are somehow 'bigger sinners' than others is incorrect.

Lets not let this thread get sidetracked as before. I think it has gotten rather childish. I have been tossed off other boards for beating up too badly on that type of behavior.

Here is the reasoning behind why homosexuality is such a grave sin.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=485709&postcount=1
 
Lets not let this thread get sidetracked as before. I think it has gotten rather childish. I have been tossed off other boards for beating up too badly on that type of behavior.

I'll take that to mean that you can't Biblically justify condemning oral sex between a married couple.

Here is the reasoning behind why homosexuality is such a grave sin.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=485709&postcount=1

I'm not saying it's not a grave sin. But many other sins are also tolerated in the church, as the author says homosexuality is, like greed and gluttony. Are these sins somehow worse because they are tolerated? Or is the toleration of those sins the real issue?
 
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