Are we getting just a little of the chaos we have spread around the world for other nations?

[Correll]

And as Good Germans, you must do so.

Just because one, over a century ago, a bad guy falsely accused innocent people of being traitors, does not mean that there are NO TRAITORS in teh world ever.

It is retarded of you to suggest that that is the case.

 

[Mac-7]

Yeah, we want to spend more on offence, incarcerate more citizens and increase our gdp. It's all we think of.

Marginal people in lesser nations love to hate America

 

[Stryder50]

The US benefited from the system it implemented. It's amusing to hear the 'wahh waah waah' now.

Most of the World has also benefited. Much more than they could have done on their own.
We're still waiting for the thank you notes.

 

[Stryder50]

OK kids, it's once again time for Uncle Yuri to set the record straight.
cnm here is a bit confused, so here we go AGAIN....



This is a 1985 interview of Yuri Bezmenov, a former Soviet KGB agent who defected to the West.
Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all!

According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
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And HERE WE ARE TODAY. cnm feels that this is all nonsensical, but IT is here, it is NOW. This has been a CENTURY in the making, but something happened along the way....circa 1991, the Soviet Union in Russia CRASHED and DIED.
But only after CONTAMINATING the "west" with their filthy ideology.

It is time to recognize this REALITY, and to FINALLY put an END to this vicious cycle of STUPIDITY and KILL MARXISM once and FOREVER MORE.

CCP China has picked up where Russia(USSR) left off.
Marxism is the latest variation of envy and greed of the lazy and non-productive coveting the wealth of the Creators, but "normalizing" redistribution, i.e. theft.

 

[Stryder50]

Instead of wasting hundreds of billions on the latest Europe war in the past 2,000 years we should spend the hundreds of billions attacking Mexico! Those MF'ers need to be bombed to rubble for their crimes against the U.S.

I doubt the majority of Mexicans are supportive of this take on their government's agenda.
Mexico is just the "front man" and agent of the CCP China, who is the real culprit behind these attacks on the USA.

 

[Stryder50]

So you support attacking the illegal hordes who indiscriminately KILLED and RAPED Americans, good.

Most of your illegal hordes didn't originate in Mexico, just traveled through it, and other Southern nations, to cross the USA border.
Big questions to ask are who paid their travel expenses, especially feeding and lodging, while they supposedly hoofed it hundreds to thousands of miles to get here.

 

[Stryder50]

No. We are merely suffering 50 years of self-denial that the left were really just another American political party with a different idea and not an actual invasive, hostile, foreign invasion party.

Fact of the matter is that we have allowed parts of the southwest to be invaded and occupied by a hostile foreign militia force masquerading as mere immigrants.

And democrats have come out siding with the invaders. That should make them all ineligible to hold elected office.

At some time I'll start a thread on this, but for now the preview.

Since the narrative is these illegal immigrants are coming here because their home nations are "shit-holes" then the best solution for the USA would be to give them some basic military training and arms, and send them back to their countries of origin to overthrow the governments that are keeping their nations in "shit-hole" status.

The USA didn't start out 250+ years ago to be the one and only nation of our type. Rather, the expectation was to provide a blueprint and template for others to copy, in their own flavor perhaps.

The problem the OP, and many others, fails to grasp is that the USA hasn't meddled enough, nor effectively, to "fix the problems" in other lands that cause their people to want to leave and come here. It's not enough that we've given them the internet, cell towers, Nikes, Levis, Starbucks, etc.; we need to provide them with similar constitution and representative government such as we have here so they can become their own wealth creators rather than wealth redistributors.

In an ideal world that would be course/solution. Unfortunately, we have too many parasite "wealth redistribution-ists" native now to our own nation that are sabotaging our economy and governance by assisting in bringing in the "hostile foreign militia".

 

[Stryder50]

Well there it is, finally. The artificial boogy man we created to sell our policy of forced intervention on behalf of our corporate benefactors. We must act like assholes because history says everyone acts like assholes. Damn we're smooth.

That "boogy man" is only artificial in your mush for brains. Or has senility degraded your intellect that greatly ?
Those "corporate benefactors" tend to be mostly transnationals, some who benefit, others who have created the problems our "forced intervention" have tried to fix over there, than have to deal with over here.

My point isn't the distortion your feeble mind has concluded.
My point was that the USA isn't the first or only to do what you claimed in your lame and ill-informed OP.
As for "act like assholes", the USA has been far less an "asshole" than most of the rest of the world, throughout most of history.

The USA isn't the one that went around the world the past few centuries making colonies in Africa, Asia, the Americas, or Australia-NZ, etc. We have been stuck with cleaning up the many messes made by the many European (mostly) nations. This is usually meant as a preventative to keep those messes from spilling over onto our land. Unfortunately, hasn't always be done right or worked.

This world is a sphere.
Too often too many on this planet have failed to appreciate that we are all as much downhill and downwind of each other, as we are also uphill and upwind.

 

[Stryder50]

The US benefited from the system it implemented. It's amusing to hear the 'wahh waah waah' now.

Tell us Kiwi, what this "system it implemented" actually is, in specific detail, please.
If such isn't too taxing upon your feeble brain.

BTW, no where near as amusing as a world that "bites the hand" that has "fed them".

 

[Stryder50]

Increasing gdp is the whole point of mass immigration. So, yes, that much is very true.

The USA isn't encouraging mass ILLEGAL immigration to increase our GDP.
If anything, the untaxed dollar$ sent back to the lands of origin are increasing their GDPs.
Or is this what you meant ???

BTW, along with other economic plans Trump is playing with taxing those money orders that are cashed in foreign banks is a long overdue plan that will work better than some tariffs, and make the "illegals" pay their expenses here.

 

[Stryder50]

No, because they resented being taxed to pay for the war that protected them from the French and the Indians. And because the speculator surveyors among the founders wanted to break the treaties the British had made with the Indians, to expand into the Indians' lands.

The Indians also broke those treaties made with the British, not brokered by the Colonists.
And the French still had expanded into much more "Indian's land". Louisiana Purchase ring any bells ?

BTW, how those Maori doing after you Kiwis took their lands ???

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The world suffers from a serious case of penis envy when it comes to the US

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A lot of Americans suffer from a serious case of penis envy when it comes to the US.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

America's greatest enemies are from within, mostly within the DNC.

Remember, Elon would love to put a chip in your head and the lunatics at Palantir believe that in LOTR it was the “good guys”, Sauron and Saruman, who used the Palantir stones to communicate

 

[Unkotare]

So you support attacking the illegal hordes who indiscriminately KILLED and RAPED Americans, good.

Who wouldn't support attacking violent criminals? Carpet bombing Mexico wouldn't get that done.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Our history of meddling, supporting revolutions, and recently instigating color revolutions to counter "the bad guys" may have the chickens coming home to roost. Did we think we were immune from this? Where is all this conflict coming from? It seems to be well planned and funded, and the outcome is unpredictable. It has the EU at each other's throats, and look at the relationship between the US, Canada, and Mexico. There are no sidelines, no matter what the media tells you. United States Involvement in Other Countries 2025

"We reap what we sow."

No. This, in fact, is the other way around.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not yet. Armed drones, Ukraine/Russia style, have not made a presence yet.

That will change everything.

 

[Unkotare]

Preppies Prefer Peons

The latest generations of the hereditary ruling class felt threatened by a proud White working class. Also, any continuation of class mobility had to be suppressed, because there was no room for it anymore.

More "racial purity," Rain Man?

 

[BluesLegend]

I doubt the majority of Mexicans are supportive of this take on their government's agenda.
Mexico is just the "front man" and agent of the CCP China, who is the real culprit behind these attacks on the USA.

That didn't save Italy or Japan in WWII. We need to go wheels up on the B1 bombers on Mexico.

 

[BluesLegend]

Most of your illegal hordes didn't originate in Mexico, just traveled through it, and other Southern nations, to cross the USA border.
Big questions to ask are who paid their travel expenses, especially feeding and lodging, while they supposedly hoofed it hundreds to thousands of miles to get here.

MF'ing Mexico made billions off trafficking them into OUR country. Now Mexico is going to PAY dearly.

 

[BluesLegend]

Who wouldn't support attacking violent criminals? Carpet bombing Mexico wouldn't get that done.

It won WWII. Let your Mexican pals know they should relocate at least 100 miles south of the U.S. border.