Are we getting just a little of the chaos we have spread around the world for other nations?

[Stryder50]

ICE raids one warehouse, arrests 40, looking at all angles. There apparently hasn't been any charges brought or even suggested for whoever runs that facility, or their employment records seized, as far as I know. How far does anyone think this will proceed? Is it just an exercise or are we serious? I honestly think it's lasted longer than I expected already, the opportunity is definitely there to make this work.

For those not interested in wasting time with biased video, and who prefer text, the following to consider.
Though it's Fox, it's more objective than most MSM, and I may upgrade with something from The Epoch Times later.
Here is part of the answer, which only took a little time to search out;

Border czar Tom Homan says media ignoring of facts about ICE raids fueled LA riots​

'Even though we put the facts out, the media didn’t cover it,' Homan claims​

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During an appearance on MSNBC’s "Morning Joe," Homan slammed the media for not reporting the real reasons that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement were conducting investigations in the Fashion District of L.A. He said the law enforcement agency was executing warrants on specific criminal activity and noted that the news ignored that, choosing to characterize the actions as wide-ranging immigration raids that were "separating families."

"The facts never got out. Even though we put the facts out, the media didn’t cover it. They just said ‘immigration raids,’ and we’re separating families and all the negative information we hear all the time," Homan told "Morning Joe" co-host Jonathan Lemire.
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ICE agents carried out operations at businesses across Los Angeles on Friday, which sparked protests and clashes outside multiple locations. The next three days saw unrest and confrontations between anti-ICE rioters and law enforcement, while the Department of Homeland Security urged California state leaders to "call off their rioting mob."

A DHS statement put out Saturday read, "Last night, over 1,000 rioters surrounded a federal law enforcement building and assaulted ICE law enforcement officers, slashed tires, defaced buildings, and taxpayer funded property. It took the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) 2 hours to respond."

In response to the escalating chaos, President Donald Trump deployed 2,000 National Guard troops to Los Angeles. The troops began arriving on Sunday morning.
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"The Fashion District wasn’t an immigration raid. It was the service of three criminal warrants at locations based on a large criminal conspiracy that ICE is investigating, that has to do with money laundering, tax evasion and customs fraud – where a company under-declared over $80 million in goods, failed to pay $17 million in fees," he said.

Homan added, "And it’s part of an overall conspiracy on numerous businesses that they believe that some of this money is being laundered in Mexico and Colombia… So, this was a criminal investigation that they are responding to."

ICE agents captured the "worst of the worst" criminal illegal aliens in Los Angeles during operations on Friday, including murderers, sex offenders and other violent criminals, the agency said on Sunday.

After Homan accused the media of ignoring those details, he doubled down on how necessary the Los Angeles raids were in getting dangerous criminals off the streets.
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Border czar Tom Homan says media ignoring of facts about ICE raids fueled LA riots

U.S. border czar Tom Homan defended Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operations in Los Angeles during an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

www.foxnews.com

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As usual, we are seeing the pseudo-liberal, left wingnut, 'Democrat', insurrectionists once more supporting criminals, criminal activity, lawlessness, and anti-USA agendas.

They are doing this because most of them are also criminals and/or criminally inclined.

 

[GLASNOST]

Our history of meddling, supporting revolutions, and recently instigating color revolutions to counter "the bad guys" may have the chickens coming home to roost. Did we think we were immune from this?

Well said.

 

[Mac1958]

And as Good Germans, you must do so.

In the MAGA Dictionary™, a "traitor" is defined as a person who doesn't think exactly like a Trumpster.

Coincidentally, that same definition applies to commie, evil, demonic, Satanic, socialist, Marxist, deep state, globalist, leftist, Stalinist and any number of other terms, and applies to Americans across the political spectrum.

 

[Stryder50]

Our history of meddling, supporting revolutions, and recently instigating color revolutions to counter "the bad guys" may have the chickens coming home to roost. Did we think we were immune from this? Where is all this conflict coming from? It seems to be well planned and funded, and the outcome is unpredictable. It has the EU at each other's throats, and look at the relationship between the US, Canada, and Mexico. There are no sidelines, no matter what the media tells you. United States Involvement in Other Countries 2025

As usual an OP that displays a vast ignorance of history combined with an overt anti-USA bias. a.k.a. classic Marxist-Leninist pseudo-liberal, pseudo-socialist claptrap.

World history shows that human groups, from tribes to nations, back as far as pre-written records, have always been meddling in each other's "affairs". On the one hand, nothing new here. However, on the other hand, the USA has been an exception to most actions and circumstances by other peoples, nations, organizations, which I'll get to in a moment.

History shows an ever changing landscape of national boundaries, allegiances, foe/ally, dominant/subjugated, passive/aggressive, and basically all can be painted with the same broad stroke brush.

The USA in major part is the result of meddling by other nations upon our continent. Started centuries before "1776" with European colonizations. Took a more direct path with the 13 Colonies allied with England against France during the "French and Indian War", which set the stage for a flip with the 13 Colonies fighting England for Independence with France joining in, partly to settle the score with England. This was followed with the Barbary Piracies, then England again, then Spain's former colony Mexico, and by time of the "War Between the States" we have many European nations meddling here on behalf of the Confederacy.

There followed numerous tangles and wrangles among the European powers, and other nations around the planet, most of which had nothing to do with the USA, nor the USA meddling into such. We eventually got dragged into a "Great War" and helped tip the scales of that stalemate into an "Allied" victory. Unfortunately the USA didn't meddle enough (or effectively) such that the "victors" set the stage for the next World War. Again the USA got dragged into a larger global conflict started by many others, older nations that have constantly claimed to be wiser and more experienced, more "mature" than the young pup Yanks.

Not only did the USA play the major role in ending that second World War, but we set a new precedent in not pillaging the vanquished and conquered enemy lands. We paid out trea$ure again to rebuild what we had paid trea$ure to destroy. We then pressed for a more effective forum of Nations to supposedly prevent future similar fiascos, but again the "older, wiser, better Nations" found ways to sabotage that by shoddy, fumbling freeing of former colonies, which then proceeded to start their assorted brushfire wars. Many of these we have been dragged into, hoping to stop the bloodshed and destruction, but without much support of other nations, which would rather blame us of meddling (while we try to fix these other messes they have left in the world). Telling us we aren't the World's "policeman", while declining to fix those "messes" that they created, that need "policing".

Meanwhile, the USA had to remain the main armed defender of Europe and much of the rest of the world, too weak in fortitude, fund$, and resolve to do their part to thwart expansion of international Communism by the USSR and CCP China, etc. along with the religious fanaticism of Islamic Jihad, and assorted other tinpot dictators, and so on.

And while doing all this, we've "exploited" the world by providing the Internet, GPS, numerous technological and industrial advances, more foreign aid and funding for international development than the rest of the 'Free World' combined, a lion's share of cultural advancements, and many other improvements and fundings too numerous for me to list at this time.

Where the USA has failed is to not realize how little we are appreciated or thanked for all that we have given to and done for the rest of the world. A rest of the World that on the one hand acts like a pack of spoiled children with constant "give me more" whining; and on the other hand some of them keep arming up and pledging to destroy and/or subjugate us.

Insult to injury, the injury being it's bad enough we have to buy friendship or bribe off hostility, the "Insult" is a World of 'Goldilocks' for whom it is never "just right", but whom also seek to find something to complain about and blame the USA for.

[The reason some of us are such strong supporters of the "Space Program" is we are searching for a way we could pack up and leave this planet for a fresh world and let all you malcontents stew in the mess you've spent centuries brewing. We are getting weary of babysitting and cleaning up after you all.]

 

[Stryder50]

In the MAGA Dictionary™, a "traitor" is defined as a person who doesn't think exactly like a Trumpster.

Coincidentally, that same definition applies to commie, evil, demonic, Satanic, socialist, Marxist, deep state, globalist, leftist, Stalinist and any number of other terms, and applies to Americans across the political spectrum.

In the Non-MAGA Dictionary™, a "traitor" is defined as a person who doesn't support commie, evil, demonic, Satanic, socialist, deep state, globalist, leftist, Stalinist and any number of other forms of oppression, subjugation, repression, elitism, exclusions, redistributions, or denial of liberty and personal freedoms.

Thank you Komrade Mac1958

 

[Mac1958]

In the Non-MAGA Dictionary™, a "traitor" is defined as a person who doesn't support commie, evil, demonic, Satanic, socialist, deep state, globalist, leftist, Stalinist and any number of other forms of oppression, subjugation, repression, elitism, exclusions, redistributions, or denial of liberty and personal freedoms.

Thank you Komrade Mac1958

You're very welcome, Trumpster!

Always happy to strike a nerve like that!

 

[Stryder50]

You're very welcome, Trumpster!

Always happy to strike a nerve like that!

Your fault and failure comes from being set at "11" for too long.
You have turned your wee brain to mush.

 

[BluesLegend]

Our history of meddling, supporting revolutions, and recently instigating color revolutions to counter "the bad guys" may have the chickens coming home to roost. Did we think we were immune from this? Where is all this conflict coming from? It seems to be well planned and funded, and the outcome is unpredictable. It has the EU at each other's throats, and look at the relationship between the US, Canada, and Mexico. There are no sidelines, no matter what the media tells you. United States Involvement in Other Countries 2025

Instead of wasting hundreds of billions on the latest Europe war in the past 2,000 years we should spend the hundreds of billions attacking Mexico! Those MF'ers need to be bombed to rubble for their crimes against the U.S.

 

[BluesLegend]

Unkotare disagrees with bombing Mexico. Even though Mexico is responsible for the deaths of over 200,000 Americans. Mexico traffics humans and drugs into our country. Mexico invades our country illegally and RAPES and MURDERS Americans. I'm surprised we haven't nuked those MF'ers!

 

[toobfreak]

Unkotare disagrees with bombing Mexico. Even though Mexico is responsible for the deaths of over 200,000 Americans.

He probably has all of his money tied up in Agave futures.

 

[Mac1958]

So they want to annex Canada and Greenland, and bomb Mexico.

All the true colors are coming out.

The world has seen it before.

 

[toobfreak]

Are we getting just a little of the chaos we have spread around the world for other nations?​

No. We are merely suffering 50 years of self-denial that the left were really just another American political party with a different idea and not an actual invasive, hostile, foreign invasion party.

Fact of the matter is that we have allowed parts of the southwest to be invaded and occupied by a hostile foreign militia force masquerading as mere immigrants.

And democrats have come out siding with the invaders. That should make them all ineligible to hold elected office.

 

[cnm]

[The reason some of us are such strong supporters of the "Space Program" is we are searching for a way we could pack up and leave this planet for a fresh world and let all you malcontents stew in the mess you've spent centuries brewing. We are getting weary of babysitting and cleaning up after you all.]

The US benefited from the system it implemented. It's amusing to hear the 'wahh waah waah' now.

 

[Unkotare]

Unkotare disagrees with bombing Mexico. ...

Disagrees with indiscriminantly slaughtering men, women, and children who are not criminal illegal aliens and/or cartel members? Disagrees with making the situation much worse by forcing a wave of more refugees across our borders? Yeah, I disagree with that. If you weren't just pathetically trying to thump your little pigeon chest on the internet, you would too.

 

[cnm]

Took a more direct path with the 13 Colonies allied with England against France during the "French and Indian War", which set the stage for a flip with the 13 Colonies fighting England for Independence with France joining in, partly to settle the score with England.

No, because they resented being taxed to pay for the war that protected them from the French and the Indians. And because the speculator surveyors among the founders wanted to break the treaties the British had made with the Indians, to expand into the Indians' lands.

 

[the watcher]

Meanwhile, the USA had to remain the main armed defender of Europe and much of the rest of the world, too weak in fortitude, fund$, and resolve to do their part to thwart expansion of international Communism by the USSR and CCP China, etc. along with the religious fanaticism of Islamic Jihad, and assorted other tinpot dictators, and so on.

Well there it is, finally. The artificial boogy man we created to sell our policy of forced intervention on behalf of our corporate benefactors. We must act like assholes because history says everyone acts like assholes. Damn we're smooth.

 

[Mac1958]

Well there it is, finally. The artificial boogy man we created to sell our policy of forced intervention on behalf of our corporate benefactors. We must act like assholes because history says everyone acts like assholes. Damn we're smooth.

And at the foundation of that kind of thinking is victimhood. Everything is terrible, and those other guys did it.

In this case, America has been terribly victimized by other countries (?) and it's payback time.

"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme".

 

[SeaMajor7]

That is so hilarious. Marxist Leninism in preschool or something. One can see this guy checks under his bed. Religiously, every night.

OK kids, it's once again time for Uncle Yuri to set the record straight.
cnm here is a bit confused, so here we go AGAIN....



This is a 1985 interview of Yuri Bezmenov, a former Soviet KGB agent who defected to the West.
Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all!

According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
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And HERE WE ARE TODAY. cnm feels that this is all nonsensical, but IT is here, it is NOW. This has been a CENTURY in the making, but something happened along the way....circa 1991, the Soviet Union in Russia CRASHED and DIED.
But only after CONTAMINATING the "west" with their filthy ideology.

It is time to recognize this REALITY, and to FINALLY put an END to this vicious cycle of STUPIDITY and KILL MARXISM once and FOREVER MORE.

 

[BluesLegend]

Disagrees with indiscriminantly slaughtering men, women, and children who are not criminal illegal aliens and/or cartel members? Disagrees with making the situation much worse by forcing a wave of more refugees across our borders? Yeah, I disagree with that. If you weren't just pathetically trying to thump your little pigeon chest on the internet, you would too.

So you support attacking the illegal hordes who indiscriminately KILLED and RAPED Americans, good.

 

[Correll]

Yeah, we want to spend more on offence, incarcerate more citizens and increase our gdp. It's all we think of.

Increasing gdp is the whole point of mass immigration. So, yes, that much is very true.