Are today's Southern Conservatives any different than Southern Conservatives from the Civil War?

[Kosh]

Southern Strategy! Bullshit. The Democrats don't want to admit LBJ was the architect for getting those "******* voting Democrat for 200 years"' so they push this cockamamy story about republicans being the racist dividers in the South. Blacks don't fare very well under Democrat rule and that's because the Dems want them on the liberal plantation so they'll vote for politicians who will keep them dependent by the free handouts like food stamps, welfare and Obama cellphones.

Republicans are for freedom and prosperity for all, not handouts for someone's vote.

The only problem is you cant provide any documentation for LBJ saying that and I can show you at least 2 GOP RNC chairmen saying that the Southern Strategy was real. What does it take to get it through you clowns heads? Everyone except idiots know the Southern Strategy was planned.

Yes I am sure you can go to far left sites and find anything you wish even if it is not connected to reality..

 

[Asclepias]

Southern Strategy! Bullshit. The Democrats don't want to admit LBJ was the architect for getting those "******* voting Democrat for 200 years"' so they push this cockamamy story about republicans being the racist dividers in the South. Blacks don't fare very well under Democrat rule and that's because the Dems want them on the liberal plantation so they'll vote for politicians who will keep them dependent by the free handouts like food stamps, welfare and Obama cellphones.

Republicans are for freedom and prosperity for all, not handouts for someone's vote.

The only problem is you cant provide any documentation for LBJ saying that and I can show you at least 2 GOP RNC chairmen saying that the Southern Strategy was real. What does it take to get it through you clowns heads? Everyone except idiots know the Southern Strategy was planned.

Yes I am sure you can go to far left sites and find anything you wish even if it is not connected to reality..

You cant go anywhere and show me documentation of LBJ saying that. I on the other hand can post news paper articles with direct quotes. You want to put your money where you mouth is or are you just chicken shit?

 

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[Political Junky]

David Duke was one of those Far Right Democrats who is now a Far Right Republican.

David Duke

 

[Flopper]

Southern Strategy! Bullshit. The Democrats don't want to admit LBJ was the architect for getting those "******* voting Democrat for 200 years"' so they push this cockamamy story about republicans being the racist dividers in the South. Blacks don't fare very well under Democrat rule and that's because the Dems want them on the liberal plantation so they'll vote for politicians who will keep them dependent by the free handouts like food stamps, welfare and Obama cellphones.

Republicans are for freedom and prosperity for all, not handouts for someone's vote.

The only problem is you cant provide any documentation for LBJ saying that and I can show you at least 2 GOP RNC chairmen saying that the Southern Strategy was real. What does it take to get it through you clowns heads? Everyone except idiots know the Southern Strategy was planned.

Yes I am sure you can go to far left sites and find anything you wish even if it is not connected to reality..

As you can with far right sites

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kosh will try to do better, I am sure.

 

[hazlnut]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

They still use the bible to justify their fears and paranoias - like homophobia.

 

[rdean]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

 

[rdean]

Southern Strategy! Bullshit. The Democrats don't want to admit LBJ was the architect for getting those "******* voting Democrat for 200 years"' so they push this cockamamy story about republicans being the racist dividers in the South. Blacks don't fare very well under Democrat rule and that's because the Dems want them on the liberal plantation so they'll vote for politicians who will keep them dependent by the free handouts like food stamps, welfare and Obama cellphones.

Republicans are for freedom and prosperity for all, not handouts for someone's vote.

There is an unproven and unfounded story Republicans have pushed since the 60's about Johnson. Reminds me of Obama's birth certificate or Obama being Keynan. Republicans have said the lie so much, they just assume it must be true. Evidence has ceased to matter.

 

[Steinlight]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

 

[hortysir]

They've only changed political parties.

I agree. I believe their policies and goals are unchanged.

Because you're a racist and race is all you ever see

 

[Steinlight]

Jeff Sessions is the only Republican I would support at the moment. He is the only one speaking up on the immigration issue and defending the american middle class across the board on issues like trade and bank bailout issues as well.

 

[Shrimpbox]

They've only changed political parties.

There you go again. The democrats remained democrats. The republicans have never been for slavery. That is controlling people against their will, which is big government. Big government is Democrat policy. You democrats are still the same, only your methods have changed. Blacks are still on the Democrat plantation.

The GOP's admission of the Southern Strategy says you are either a liar or ignorant of the facts.

The term "Southern Strategy" was made up by a lib. Republicans have never even mentioned accept with respect to left-wing claims about it.

Actually they admitted this at least twice that I know of. There is always at least one idiot who will deny this. Looks like you get the booby prize....again.

USATODAY.com - GOP We were wrong to play racial politics

""Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong.""
-RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman

"Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South. Beginning in the mid-1960s, Republicans encouraged disaffected Southern white voters to vote Republican by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats for racial unrest and other racial problems."


RNC Chair Michael Steele Confesses to Race-Based Southern Strategy Mediaite

"“For the last 40-plus years we had a ‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, ‘Bubba’ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton.”"
-RNC Chairman Michael Steel.

Finally an interview of Lee Atwater.

A this is such a stretch for supporting evidence. The Atwater clip is from 1981 for gods sake. Another clip,is from 2005 and the Steele clip,is from 2010 and from a far left website. The most recent clips deal with the so called southern strategy in the past tense and Steele's mea culpa should be applauded for his honesty and forthrightness.

Far left people act as if politics is not a fluid thing and of course that it is only republicans who cannot evolve, just more evidence of their elitism. Whatever exists of a southern strategy is no different or more despicable than obamas racist strategy, just as David Duke is no better or worse than reverend Farrakan, both are just footnotes in history.

Just to show how lame the liberal arguments of present day republican racism are let's look at some facts. The only black in the senate was appointed by a female republican governor and then elected by a considerable majority in South Carolina. We got any blue state blacks in the senate? Naw but the south is the racist one. All the southern states have republican governors and most have repub legislators, voted in by states with large black populations. The repeated stereotypes that liberals use to portray republicans do not stand up to the facts notwithstanding the cherry picked exceptions.

I have lived in the Deep South for forty years. We have better race relations down here than in the rest of the country. I am proud of my region and my culture and especially of the independence that my rebel brother and sisters exhibit, of all colors, in a nation populated by sheep.

 

[rdean]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

You said: The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

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You know of course that when whites such as Joni Ernst get a half million from the government, someone is representing their interests.

As far as immigrants, they come mostly in two groups. The migrant worker food pickers doing work the Republicans would never do. Too hard and not enough pay.
Or technical work that Republicans simply aren't qualified for. When you have a state like Texas cutting 5 billion in education and the governor going to California and New York trying to lure workers, then you know the state government has given up on "learnin'" for the people of his state.

 

[Steinlight]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

You said: The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

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You know of course that when whites such as Joni Ernst get a half million from the government, someone is representing their interests.

As far as immigrants, they come mostly in two groups. The migrant worker food pickers doing work the Republicans would never do. Too hard and not enough pay.
Or technical work that Republicans simply aren't qualified for. When you have a state like Texas cutting 5 billion in education and the governor going to California and New York trying to lure workers, then you know the state government has given up on "learnin'" for the people of his state.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Jodi Ernst getting a kick back in no way represents the collective interests of White Americans. It is another example of American taxpayers, majority of whom are white, getting fleeced by corrupt government interests. Proof more they need representation.

Yes, at these wages, Americans won't do agriculture work. Deport the illegals, secure the border, the supply of labor goes down, wages go up, and agriculture firms will be forced to pay a decent wage to Americans. Many Americans in the heartland are farmers. Just a two generations ago, in the Great Depression, White "okies" did the agriculture work in places like California. So this idea, illegals take jobs most won't do is bunk. Yes, they won't do agriculture at current wages, but they will at higher wages. Also, most illegals aren't in agriculture, they are in the service sector and construction, both sectors are majority workers that are native born. More than 80% aren't even in agriculture are a taking jobs from unemployed americans, they are under cutting their wages as well
Jobs Americans Won t Do A Detailed Look at Immigrant Employment by Occupation Center for Immigration Studies
Labor Market Characteristics of Mexican Immigrants in the United States Center for Immigration Studies

As far as the tech workers, you are pushing a lie from Silicon Valley corporations who want to bring in cheap coolie labor from Asia. Often they are of lower quality and productivity, but they are so much cheaper they make up the difference. There is no shortage of tech workers. In fact, there are 11 million STEM graduates without a job in STEM in the US.
Another Look at the STEM Crisis in America The Fiscal Times

Why are you such a tool of global capitalists?

This is why liberals sicken me. They claim to stand for working people, but sell them out at every turn.

 

[Flopper]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

That's amazing. Congress is 81% white and you claim there's no representation of whites.

 

[Steinlight]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

That's amazing. Congress is 81% white and you claim there's no representation of whites.

How does that 81% forward white interests? I provided instances where they don't, through immigration for example.

 

[Flopper]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

That's amazing. Congress is 81% white and you claim there's no representation of whites.

How does that 81% forward white interests? I provided instances where they don't, through immigration for example.

I guess if they were all Klansman that would make you happy.

 

[Steinlight]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

That's amazing. Congress is 81% white and you claim there's no representation of whites.

How does that 81% forward white interests? I provided instances where they don't, through immigration for example.

I guess if they were all Klansman that would make you happy.

Wow, how witty! Haha, you really showed me!

Let me know when you come up with a response of substance...

 

[bripat9643]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

That's amazing. Congress is 81% white and you claim there's no representation of whites.

How does that 81% forward white interests? I provided instances where they don't, through immigration for example.

I guess if they were all Klansman that would make you happy.

The Democrat party has made it quite clear that it views white people as the enemy.