Are there any differences between believing in CO2 or Jesus Christ?

[abu afak]

How Do Scientists Know That Humans Are Responsible for Global Warming?​

Scientists use old fashioned detective work to figure out humans are responsible for Climate Change.
Oct 24, 2022 - NBC Miami

"....Scientists can Calculate how much heat different suspects Trap, using a complex understanding of chemistry and physics and feeding that into computer simulations that have been generally accurate in portraying climate, past and future. They Measure what they call Radiative forcing in Watts per Meter Squared.

The first and most frequent natural suspect is the sun. The sun is what warms Earth in general providing about 1,361 watts per meter squared of heat, year in year out. That’s the baseline, the delicate balance that makes Earth livable. Changes in energy coming from the sun have been minimal, about One-Tenth of a Watt per Meter Squared, scientists calculate.

But Carbon Dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels is now Trapping heat to the level of 2.07 Watts per Meter Squared, more than 20 Times that of the changes in the sun, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Methane, another powerful heat-trapping gas, is at 0.5 Watts per Meter Square.

The sun’s 11-year cycle goes through regular but small ups and downs, but that doesn’t seem to change Earth’s temperature. And if anything the ever so slight changes in 11-year-average solar irradiance have been shifting downward, according to NASA calculations, with the space agency concluding “it is therefore extremely unlikely that the Sun has caused the observed global temperature warming trend over the past century.”

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[CrusaderFrank]

Causing the current global warming.

Are you claiming that will kill all life on earth? Because that's what it sounds like.

What warning is caused by an additional 120PPM of CO2?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There's a mathematical solution to the CO2 question ... no faith required ... Jesus needs faith, there is no explanation other than "In the beginning, God created Heaven and Earth" ...

There may be a “mathematical solution “ to CO2, but what’s the physical basis for that? Can anyone demonstrate that increasing CO2 from 280 to 420PPM increases temperature, or is that an Act of Faith?

 

[sparky]

There are models, studies, peer review to accept CO2 as the Lord and Savior of the Climate. We Deny CO2 at our peril. We are killing all life on Earth by not shutting the US economy, er, or something, look at IPCC 6, it's all in there.

Sixth Assessment Report — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

~S~

 

[EMH]

There may be a “mathematical solution “ to CO2, but what’s the physical basis for that? Can anyone demonstrate that increasing CO2 from 280 to 420PPM increases temperature, or is that an Act of Faith?

The satellites and balloons measured all that "warming" and it was


ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO

 

[EMH]

Causing the current global warming.

"Warming" oceans that produce no breakout in Canes.

"Warming" atmosphere in fudge that does not exist in the ACTUAL DATA


The only warming on Earth for the duration of Algore's fraud is from growing urban areas, Urban Heat Sink Effect.

 

[krichton]

Christianity is the religious expression of the word & will of God through His Son, our Lord & Savior, Jesus.

Anthropogenic Global Warming is a cult for easily duped & slow witted lemmings that have been indoctrinated by the thoroughly corrupted pseudoscience of climatology.

One offers hope & salvation to the world.
The other thrives on the fears & ignorance of the same people that can't figure out which bathroom to use..

You should look up the definition of "cult." Global warming is accepted wisdom at this point. The cult are the minority of idiots who believe it's some sort of conspiracy, ie, you, and treat that belief like dogma.

 

[ReinyDays]

There may be a “mathematical solution “ to CO2, but what’s the physical basis for that? Can anyone demonstrate that increasing CO2 from 280 to 420PPM increases temperature, or is that an Act of Faith?

The physical basis is radiative physics ... there's a thread pinned to the top of the Environmental forum that contains the sum total of all human knowledge in this subject ... and it is thick, junior or senior level at university ... I was fortunate to take an honors sophomore class, so you'll need a good three years college level math classes to even begin the explanation ... two years calculus, a term of Diffy Q and a term of LinAlgebra ... if you can't map these results into the stress tensor, then it will be extremely difficult to describe ...

We can, in all cases, assign temperature increase on carbon dioxide's higher specific heat capacity ... that's freshman chemistry ... there are YouTube videos showing how to demonstrate this in the typical kitchen ... one vessel at 425 ppm, another vessel at 1,000,000 ppm ... and clearly we see a very small increase in temperature, about 2ºC ... using ratios we get a 0.0002901ºC increase ... which isn't zero, and no faith required ...

Black-top asphalt causes more AGW than CO2 ... fossil fuels are MORE evil when NOT burned ...

 

[jc456]

Causing the current global warming.

funny thing, you fks can never say where it's warming and how .04% of an atmosphere is capable of such catastrophic conditions. Not once since I've been in here.

 

[jc456]

You should look up the definition of "cult." Global warming is accepted wisdom at this point.

the exact definition of cult, you're in.

 

[krichton]

the exact definition of cult, you're in.

"You should look up the definition of "cult." Global warming is accepted wisdom at this point. The cult are the minority of idiots who believe it's some sort of conspiracy, ie, you, and treat that belief like dogma."

 

[jc456]

"You should look up the definition of "cult." Global warming is accepted wisdom at this point. The cult are the minority of idiots who believe it's some sort of conspiracy, ie, you, and treat that belief like dogma."

I’m not following a religion like you

 

[ReinyDays]

No arguing the math ... now is there? ... Stefan-Boltzmann Law says temperature is proportional to the fourth root of irradiation ... we can fully demonstrate this with a simple camp fire ... that red glowing color is blackbody radiation ...

 

[BackAgain]

Are there any differences between believing in CO2 or Jesus Christ?​

Yes.

Belief in Jesus is religious. And belief in CO2 caused global warming is … uhm … religious.

May I change my answer to “no?”

 

[EMH]

What warning is caused by an additional 120PPM of CO2?

According to highly correlated satellite and balloon data, NONE...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There's a mathematical solution to the CO2 question ... no faith required ... Jesus needs faith, there is no explanation other than "In the beginning, God created Heaven and Earth" ...

There's math to CO2 heat trapping ability by increasing it another 120PPM? Really?? Is it reality based or more post hoc, ergo propter hoc kind of a thing?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Are there any differences between believing in CO2 or Jesus Christ?​

Yes.

Belief in Jesus is religious. And belief in CO2 caused global warming is … uhm … religious.

May I change my answer to “no?”

^ Best use of the Communal Brain!

 

[ReinyDays]

According to highly correlated satellite and balloon data, NONE...

Well ... surface data shows a warming from ALL causes ... of that single solitary lonesome degree Celsius ... CO2 would be one of about two dozen factors that are all added together to get this single measly insignificant lonesome degree Celsius warming ... and of course, anyone under the age of 40 would not have experienced this single solitary insignificant degree difference and it's unlikely they would have even noticed ...

It's currently one degree Celsius warmer now than it was an hour ago ... some people just need an excuse for pissing their pants ...

 

[EMH]

surface data

FUDGE is not data, it is FUDGE.

 

[ReinyDays]

How Do Scientists Know That Humans Are Responsible for Global Warming?​

Scientists use old fashioned detective work to figure out humans are responsible for Climate Change.
Oct 24, 2022 - NBC Miami

"....Scientists can Calculate how much heat different suspects Trap, using a complex understanding of chemistry and physics and feeding that into computer simulations that have been generally accurate in portraying climate, past and future. They Measure what they call Radiative forcing in Watts per Meter Squared.

The first and most frequent natural suspect is the sun. The sun is what warms Earth in general providing about 1,361 watts per meter squared of heat, year in year out. That’s the baseline, the delicate balance that makes Earth livable. Changes in energy coming from the sun have been minimal, about One-Tenth of a Watt per Meter Squared, scientists calculate.

But Carbon Dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels is now Trapping heat to the level of 2.07 Watts per Meter Squared, more than 20 Times that of the changes in the sun, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Methane, another powerful heat-trapping gas, is at 0.5 Watts per Meter Square.

The sun’s 11-year cycle goes through regular but small ups and downs, but that doesn’t seem to change Earth’s temperature. And if anything the ever so slight changes in 11-year-average solar irradiance have been shifting downward, according to NASA calculations, with the space agency concluding “it is therefore extremely unlikely that the Sun has caused the observed global temperature warming trend over the past century.”

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How Scientists Know That We Are Responsible for Global Warming​

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All true, except this only excludes the Sun as a causative agent for GW ... what about land use, cloud cover, the width of the Atlantic Ocean ... the Urban Heat Island Effect is a good example of human activity causing up to 5ºC temperature rise, but without any change to climate ... Houston still floods every other year ... that's because this is a "humid subtropical" climate, which has nothing to do with temperature, but rather proximity to the Gulf of Mexico ... hurricanes hate Texas ...

I use the Solar Constant ... and I treat it as constant ... any and all changes to temperature on Earth's surface is strictly due to activity on the planet ... including biology, which includes humans if you believe in all that evolution stuff ... the Satan Temple Inc venomously supports climate change rhetoric ... just saying ...

Under the conditions of "everything effects everything else" ... then naturally humans can effect surface temperature ... before them dirty lazy hippies ruined it, Arbor Day was the day we all went out and planted a tree ... on Earth Day we don't, now look at NOAA's temperature graph and tell me there's no correlation ... too much LSD causes climate change ... I speak from experience here ...

My question is "how much" do humans effect temperatures ... sometimes this is easy as taking temperatures downtown, then out in the middle of the commercial airport ... but then how much does this effect the average over the entire county, or state? ...

There's better reasons to curtail our use of fossil fuels ... like the pollution it causes before it's burnt ...