Are the tariffs issued by President Trump a constitutional issue

[jc456]

You made up so many different stories it’s hard to respond

Tariffs make US good more expensive

With me so far?

in other countries, let's clarify for the cat, she ain't too bright.

 

[mamooth]

You made up so many different stories it’s hard to respond

What else did the voices tell you?

Tariffs make US good more expensive

With me so far?

Act like a liberal. Drop the cowardly question games. Do what we do. State a point clearly and directly, and support it.

I understand how that terrifies you. After all, conservatives are trained to weasel and deflect. But give it a try. You might find it liberating.

 

[Hum Dinger]

then why did xiden lose?

For the same reasons that any Democratic Presidential candidate loses:

Because there are a lot of very, very stupid people in America. Like YOU.

 

[jc456]

So you're saying government interference in the free market is a good and necessary thing?

who has the tariffs on us? isn't it the other government? are you bobbing in acid or something?

 

[jc456]

For the same reasons that any Democratic Presidential candidate loses:

Because there are a lot of very, very stupid people in America. Like YOU.

cause you've been taught that millions of people are all the same kind of stupid. I get it! Then you wonder who's stupid. hilarious.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What else did the voices tell you?


Act like a liberal. Drop the cowardly question games. Do what we do. State a point clearly and directly, and support it.

I understand how that terrifies you. After all, conservatives are trained to weasel and deflect. But give it a try. You might find it liberating.

You didn’t understand what I wrote in either post you responded to

 

[CrusaderFrank]

in other countries, let's clarify for the cat, she ain't too bright.

I’m good at untangling birds nest fishing line tangles, but I have no starting point with Mammys responses

 

[meaner gene]

For the same reasons that any Democratic Presidential candidate loses:

Because there are a lot of very, very stupid people in America. Like YOU.

People voted for Trump because he promised lower prices on day one.
Trump promised lower taxes.
No tax on overtime or social security.
No cuts to social security, medicare or medicaid.

Trump promised them so much, so they voted for him.

Boy did they get screwed.

 

[meaner gene]

who has the tariffs on us? isn't it the other government? are you bobbing in acid or something?

Actually Trump's tariff numbers don't represent the other country having a tariff on American goods.
They have a trade surplus without a tariff, but Trump calls the trade surplus a tariff.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not only nice but its strategic as well... remember how the Chinese held back critical medical supplies during covid... we have to isolate China and show the world the USA is back and open for business....

It won't come back like it was.

 

[jc456]

Actually Trump's tariff numbers don't represent the other country having a tariff on American goods.

Yep it is

They have a trade surplus without a tariff, but Trump calls the trade surplus a tariff.

Why is there a tariff?

 

[meaner gene]

Yep it is

Why is there a tariff?

On many countries Trumps numbers don't represent a tariff.
On those countries there is no tariff on American goods.

When are you going to get that to sink in?

We could have zero tariffs between America and Vietnam, and Trump's numbers would still show Vietnam having a 45% tariff.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

On many countries Trumps numbers don't represent a tariff.
On those countries there is no tariff on American goods.

When are you going to get that to sink in?

We could have zero tariffs between America and Vietnam, and Trump's numbers would still show Vietnam having a 45% tariff.

Trump's understanding of numbers is so weird.

As is his understanding of GDP.

 

[jc456]

On many countries Trumps numbers don't represent a tariff.

Based on?

On those countries there is no tariff on American goods.

Prove it

When are you going to get that to sink in?

When will you?

We could have zero tariffs between America and Vietnam, and Trump's numbers would still show Vietnam having a 45% tariff.

Prove it

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So, what your saying is that you are a short sighted man/boy and not for the long game.
Got it. Who reaps the benefit of plants being built? People being hired, and businesses
being hired to build those plants.
You just keep listening to your commie masters son.

I am say that you have not a clue, Meister. It is not a constitutional issue, I think, just stupid presidenting.

Cheap labor would be brought in from overseas, so our citizens would not get.

We just won't benefit as the Orange Child says we would.

 

[Rambunctious]

It won't come back like it was.

like it was?... its been bad since the 90's... did you know we lost 90,000 manufacturing companies since the 90's?... do you ever wonder why so many people are unemployed or under employed?... its time for us to reboot and start making stuff here... the income tax alone would be a boom to the treasury and maybe one day when todays 50 somethings hit 66 their cut of social security could actually be a retirement not just a supplement...

 

[Contumacious]

Did you actually pass Econ 101 on your first attempt?

The stock market does not measure broader economic health

Because stock market prices generate a new data point every day (or even every hour), they tend to be discussed far more than broader measures of economic health. However, many know that the stock market has little to do with the economic health of U.S. households.

The stock market is not the economy, but this time they really are sinking together

Many of Donald Trump’s economic plans put forward during the presidential campaign seemed extremely unwise even to the corporate leaders who supported him and care about profits over everything else. Universal and large tariffs and mass deportations, for example, were clearly anti-growth...

www.epi.org

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

like it was?... its been bad since the 90's... did you know we lost 90,000 manufacturing companies since the 90's?... do you ever wonder why so many people are unemployed or under employed?... its time for us to reboot and start making stuff here... the income tax alone would be a boom to the treasury and maybe one day when todays 50 somethings hit 66 their cut of social security could actually be a retirement not just a supplement...

Yeah, the owners and managers got greedy, would not pay a good wage, and got undercut by foreign competition, which some were the same companies that were closing in America to move to Asia. How about that?

 

[White 6]

The stock market does not measure broader economic health

Because stock market prices generate a new data point every day (or even every hour), they tend to be discussed far more than broader measures of economic health. However, many know that the stock market has little to do with the economic health of U.S. households.

The stock market is not the economy, but this time they really are sinking together

Many of Donald Trump’s economic plans put forward during the presidential campaign seemed extremely unwise even to the corporate leaders who supported him and care about profits over everything else. Universal and large tariffs and mass deportations, for example, were clearly anti-growth...

www.epi.org

Last time it dropped anywhere near this much, it affected the hell out of my net worth, my household, and was reflected in the economy as a whole with factory shutdowns and home owners losing their homes. I hope it does not come to that, but being retired, most of my savings are in bonds against the S&P 500 (also tanking) but at least the snapshot was in the middle of last month, so I am good, until next March.

 

[meaner gene]

Based on?

Prove it

When will you?

Prove it

Trump’s tariff math hits poor nations—and even penguin islands

Donald Trump’s latest wave of import tariffs has sparked global bewilderment, reaching not only impoverished countries but also remote, uninhabited territories like the icy Heard and McDonald Islands, home to little more than penguins and seals.

www.nationthailand.com

Trump’s tariff math hits poor nations—and even penguin islands

Donald Trump’s latest wave of import tariffs has sparked global bewilderment, reaching not only impoverished countries but also remote, uninhabited territories like the icy Heard and McDonald Islands, home to little more than penguins and seals.

White House officials defended the formula, claiming it accounts for tariff and non-tariff barriers, though many economists say it's nothing more than a simplistic ratio of trade imbalance, devoid of nuance.