Are Russian recruits prepared?

[shoshi]

it seems they themselves are saying no.

 

[Donald H]

America is winning the propaganda war, at least with North Americans. It's hard to say whether or not that's true in Europe?

And then, the much bigger question is:
Does America still want to win the real war?

Is winning just more realistically, losing for all sides?

There are just too many people who have been so thoroughly propagandized, that they can't stop and think of the possible outcome!

How long can America's propagandists keep the American people faithful to the cause?

The Trump supporters have come a fair way on adopting an antiwar cause and position, but still fall short of betraying their president and their country.

 

[MarcATL]

America is winning the propaganda war, at least with North Americans. It's hard to say whether or not that's true in Europe?

And then, the much bigger question is:
Does America still want to win the real war?

Is winning just more realistically, losing for all sides?

There are just too many people who have been so thoroughly propagandized, that they can't stop and think of the possible outcome!

How long can America's propagandists keep the American people faithful to the cause?

The Trump supporters have come a fair way on adopting an antiwar cause and position, but still fall short of betraying their president and their country.

What's the message of these propagandists?

 

[Donald H]

What's the message of these propagandists?

Russia is losing the war.
Putin stands alone.
Ukrainians are bravely fighting.
Russia's people aren't totally united with their country's cause of freedom from US aggression.
Russia won't use nuclear weapons on America as their last resort.

What other causes could there be for war propagandists?

 

[MarcATL]

Russia is losing the war.
Putin stands alone.
Ukrainians are bravely fighting.
Russia's people aren't totally united with their country's cause of freedom from US aggression.
Russia won't use nuclear weapons on America as their last resort.

What other causes could there be for war propagandists?

OK, and what do you think is the truth concerning the list you just posted.?

 

[shoshi]

Russia is losing the war.
Putin stands alone.
Ukrainians are bravely fighting.
Russia's people aren't totally united with their country's cause of freedom from US aggression.
Russia won't use nuclear weapons on America as their last resort.

What other causes could there be for war propagandists?

it is well documented Russia is losing. The video I posted comes from Russian recruits themselves. Its not propaganda.

 

[Litwin]

it seems they themselves are saying no.

look 1 MM, young men left Muscovy , 1-3 MM hide from Mobilization, in woods, small villages, summer houses , etc.

У карэльскім сяле не змаглі нікога мабілізаваць, бо ўсе сышлі ў лясы

У расійскай рэспубліцы Карэлія ў рамках частковай мабілізацыі мясцовых жыхароў паспрабавалі ўручыць позвы ў вёсцы Шалтозера Прыанежскага раёна

nashaniva.com

Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008

FINALLY: THE LARGEST COLONY Yakutia REVOLTED against Moscow colonial war in Ukraine ! Moscow’s Sending Its Ethnic Minorities to the Meat Grinder

FINALLY: THE LARGEST MOSCOW COLONY REVOLTED against Moscow colonial war in Ukraine ! I have only this picture , but soon will be more info. Sokha (Yakutia) is in the green https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/23/russia-partial-military-mobilization-ethnic-minorities/

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Litwin]

it is well documented Russia is losing. The video I posted comes from Russian recruits themselves. Its not propaganda.

+1

 

[Litwin]

 

[Litwin]

 

[Litwin]

 

[Litwin]

it seems they themselves are saying no.

What's the message of these propagandists?

ASK our members they can translate this video for you, the pootler´s soldiers dont even get the food ....they must buy food instead

 

[Donald H]

OK, and what do you think is the truth concerning the list you just posted.?

I'm not your source of information Marc. It's enough to just have you start asking questions.

But I'll hand it to Americans for staging the world's largest mass protests against any of history's wars.

Until Vietnam, the biggest war protests were similar to those pictured by our resident Ukraine propagandist.

Keep a close eye on propagandists' claims if you want to be objective. But also bear in mind that most people don't want to be objective on the progress of their country's wars.

April 15, 1967: Massive Anti-Vietnam War Demonstrations - Zinn Education Project

Amidst growing opposition to the U.S. war in Vietnam, large-scale anti-war protests were held in New York, San Francisco, and many other cities.

www.zinnedproject.org

 

[para bellum]

Russian recruits are provided with a list of everything they will need to purchase.

Plus their families are given a sheep and some potatoes, or 10lbs of fish depending on where they are from.

What more could they ask for?

Backpack 60 litre
Backpack 18 litre
Sleeping bag
Foam mat
Tactical vest
'Gorka' suit or camouflage clothing
Boots
Thermal underwear
'Verto' waterproof suit or poncho
Socks
Briefs
Penknife or multitool
Flashlight
Spare batteries
Powerbank
Chargers
Push-button phone (clean, no contacts stored)
Food set for a day Mug, metal spoon
Miniature gas burner for cooking food
Lighter
Washing accessories
Slippers
Armoured helmet (ATLAS , OMNITEC, 6647)
Bulletproof vest or plate carrier (with plates of protection class 4-5) Medical kit: 2 tourniquets, 2 IPP (or bandages), sterile wipes, scissors, marker, iodine, brilliant green, chlorhexidine, sodium sulphacil (eye drops), baby powder, roll-on bandage, pills (individually)
Thread, needles
Adhesive tape

 

[MarcATL]

I'm not your source of information Marc. It's enough to just have you start asking questions.

But I'll hand it to Americans for staging the world's largest mass protests against any of history's wars.

Until Vietnam, the biggest war protests were similar to those pictured by our resident Ukraine propagandist.

Keep a close eye on propagandists' claims if you want to be objective. But also bear in mind that most people don't want to be objective on the progress of their country's wars.

April 15, 1967: Massive Anti-Vietnam War Demonstrations - Zinn Education Project

Amidst growing opposition to the U.S. war in Vietnam, large-scale anti-war protests were held in New York, San Francisco, and many other cities.

www.zinnedproject.org

Where do you get your news and information from Donald?

 

[Donald H]

Where do you get your news and information from Donald?

Let's root out together, the true story on the referendum results. That's going to take a bit of caution and some unbiased analysis.

I think that the 3 regions went heavily in Russia's favour but some impartial evidence might show otherwise.

Something more substantial than the 'sham' claim out of America? I have to be discriminating, as I expect of you too.

Putin ‘surprised’ by referendum results

The level of support for joining Russia in Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions has surpassed his expectations, President Putin has said

www.rt.com

Is that link acceptable?

 

[Litwin]

Russian recruits are provided with a list of everything they will need to purchase.

Plus their families are given a sheep and some potatoes, or 10lbs of fish depending on where they are from.

What more could they ask for?

Backpack 60 litre
Backpack 18 litre
Sleeping bag
Foam mat
Tactical vest
'Gorka' suit or camouflage clothing
Boots
Thermal underwear
'Verto' waterproof suit or poncho
Socks
Briefs
Penknife or multitool
Flashlight
Spare batteries
Powerbank
Chargers
Push-button phone (clean, no contacts stored)
Food set for a day Mug, metal spoon
Miniature gas burner for cooking food
Lighter
Washing accessories
Slippers
Armoured helmet (ATLAS , OMNITEC, 6647)
Bulletproof vest or plate carrier (with plates of protection class 4-5) Medical kit: 2 tourniquets, 2 IPP (or bandages), sterile wipes, scissors, marker, iodine, brilliant green, chlorhexidine, sodium sulphacil (eye drops), baby powder, roll-on bandage, pills (individually)
Thread, needles
Adhesive tape

 

[fncceo]

By definition, no "recruit" is prepared.

That is the point of recruit training.

 

[shoshi]

It is humiliating for Putin his army cannot hold the territory he annexed. That is why the conscription now. RT themselves said they are losing ground because of lack of manpower.

 

[shoshi]

By definition, no "recruit" is prepared.

That is the point of recruit training.

The point of the video is that they are not being well trained or equipped.