Are relegulations unconstitutional?

[Mac1958]

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Regulation is absolutely necessary for healthily-functioning economy on a variety of levels.

Unfortunately, our "leaders" have yet to discover the distinction between "more" regulation and "better" regulation.

They're still mired in the simplistic chemotherapeutic method of regulation, damaging and killing all cells in the general area of the cells for which they're aiming.

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[JakeStarkey]

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Regulation is absolutely necessary for healthily-functioning economy on a variety of levels.

Unfortunately, our "leaders" have yet to discover the distinction between "more" regulation and "better" regulation.

They're still mired in the simplistic chemotherapeutic method of regulation, damaging and killing all cells in the general area of the cells for which they're aiming..

Hyperbolic, overblown, but certainly worth considering.

 

[initforme]

Without regulations
1) Our waterways would be even more polluted than they are now...
2). Drinking water would not be safe
3). Our air would resemble that of Beijing

That's just a small start.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Without regulations
1) Our waterways would be even more polluted than they are now...
2). Drinking water would not be safe
3). Our air would resemble that of Beijing

That's just a small start.

So, we need Obama's unconstitutional edicts for clean water?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not all are that good at it, but many are getting stinking rich just from loosely regulated day trading.

What sort of regulations are missing?

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into. How to level the playing field there? I have no idea, but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day

So what?

before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into

The prices are out there for everyone. That's why it's a market.

How to level the playing field there?

Level the playing field? Smart people do better than dumb people.
Experienced people do better than inexperienced people.
Regulations can't "fix" that. Why would you try?

I have no idea

At least no good one.

but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

Like most such efforts, it would make things worse.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into. How to level the playing field there? I have no idea, but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

Making money in the stock market is predicated on knowing what will happen before anyone else does and beating them to the punch.

If you want to play the game then learn how it's played. It's really that simple. Whether it is stocks or some other form of making money the object is trying new things and thinking in ways that no one else does. That is what separates those living in mediocrity and those excelling in what they do.

Thank you for the lesson about the market, but I was only talking about day trading which has little to do with ordinary trading. Day traders learn to spot the movements of stock and have a sixth sense so to speak about which way to go.

Most day traders lose money. Transactions costs are a bitch.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Without regulations
1) Our waterways would be even more polluted than they are now...
2). Drinking water would not be safe
3). Our air would resemble that of Beijing

That's just a small start.

So, we need Obama's unconstitutional edicts for clean water?

I still remember the news reports of how polluted the water was back in the 60's.

TEACH: Water Pollution in the Great Lakes

The pollution of our waterways became a national issue in June of 1969, the day that the Cuyahoga River, flowing through Cleveland, Ohio, on its way to Lake Erie, caught on fire because it was so polluted. Although this was not the first time that the Cuyahoga River had been in flames, the 1969 fire caught the attention of the nation and the fight began for increased water pollution controls, which eventually led to the Great Lakes Water Quality Act and Clean Water Act in the 1970s. ...

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Making money in the stock market is predicated on knowing what will happen before anyone else does and beating them to the punch.

If you want to play the game then learn how it's played. It's really that simple. Whether it is stocks or some other form of making money the object is trying new things and thinking in ways that no one else does. That is what separates those living in mediocrity and those excelling in what they do.

Thank you for the lesson about the market, but I was only talking about day trading which has little to do with ordinary trading. Day traders learn to spot the movements of stock and have a sixth sense so to speak about which way to go.

Most day traders lose money. Transactions costs are a bitch.

Yea. That is why I said earlier that not all of them are good at it. The ones that are, and I am sure there are plenty, are heavily draining the market of funds.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Thank you for the lesson about the market, but I was only talking about day trading which has little to do with ordinary trading. Day traders learn to spot the movements of stock and have a sixth sense so to speak about which way to go.

Most day traders lose money. Transactions costs are a bitch.

Yea. That is why I said earlier that not all of them are good at it. The ones that are, and I am sure there are plenty, are heavily draining the market of funds.

You're right, we should only allow day traders who are bad.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

What sort of regulations are missing?

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into. How to level the playing field there? I have no idea, but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day.

So what?

So so.

before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into

The prices are out there for everyone. That's why it's a market.

You aren't too swift. lol I know I am right, but you are certainly free to disagree. The point I made was that they are like computer hackers and can beat everyone else to the punch.

How to level the playing field there?

Level the playing field? Smart people do better than dumb people.
Experienced people do better than inexperienced people.
Regulations can't "fix" that. Why would you try?

Since we are only talking about day trading, you are saying to be "smart," people should become day traders and become rich.

I have no idea

At least no good one.

but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

Like most such efforts, it would make things worse.

That's YOUR opinion. A brilliant one.

Giving more attention to the worse problems in Americans' lives makes the problem worse.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Most day traders lose money. Transactions costs are a bitch.

Yea. That is why I said earlier that not all of them are good at it. The ones that are, and I am sure there are plenty, are heavily draining the market of funds.

You're right, we should only allow day traders who are bad.

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into. How to level the playing field there? I have no idea, but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

I LOVE your solution though.

 

[Votto]

Without regulations
1) Our waterways would be even more polluted than they are now...
2). Drinking water would not be safe
3). Our air would resemble that of Beijing

That's just a small start.

People would be all dying in the streets I tell ya!!

I hear that's what happened to the dinosaurs. No regulations = extinction.

 

[Votto]

Making money in the stock market is predicated on knowing what will happen before anyone else does and beating them to the punch.

If you want to play the game then learn how it's played. It's really that simple. Whether it is stocks or some other form of making money the object is trying new things and thinking in ways that no one else does. That is what separates those living in mediocrity and those excelling in what they do.

Thank you for the lesson about the market, but I was only talking about day trading which has little to do with ordinary trading. Day traders learn to spot the movements of stock and have a sixth sense so to speak about which way to go.

Most day traders lose money. Transactions costs are a bitch.

I bet they have better odds than at the casino.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What sort of regulations are missing?

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into. How to level the playing field there? I have no idea, but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

So so.




You aren't too swift. lol I know I am right, but you are certainly free to disagree. The point I made was that they are like computer hackers and can beat everyone else to the punch.




Since we are only talking about day trading, you are saying to be "smart," people should become day traders and become rich.

but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

Like most such efforts, it would make things worse.

That's YOUR opinion. A brilliant one.

Giving more attention to the worse problems in Americans' lives makes the problem worse.

I await your suggested regulation to fix the "problem" of day traders who "are heavily draining the market of funds" Good stuff. LOL!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yea. That is why I said earlier that not all of them are good at it. The ones that are, and I am sure there are plenty, are heavily draining the market of funds.

You're right, we should only allow day traders who are bad.

Day traders capitalize on fluctuations in the market and, since they have thousands of hours of experience at it, can immediately buy and sell as much as millions of stocks in a single day before hardly anyone can access the prices they hook into. How to level the playing field there? I have no idea, but how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

I LOVE your solution though.

how hard could it be if the regulators put a little effort into it?

Hard. Most regulators are dumb. What do you regulate?

 

[eagle1462010]

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[eagle1462010]

EPA's New Power Plant Rule Would Kill Coal | EPA Abuse

The EPA’s public lies about the existence of its war on coal is only the beginning. This new proposed rule tries to hide is true intent by falsely claiming that utilities can use new technology to meet the agency’s emissions limit for carbon dioxide – the targeted greenhouse gas. The agency’s proposed New Source Performance Standard for new coal-fired power plants mandates an emissions standard of 1,100 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt hour. This is far lower than the roughly 1,800 pounds released per hour by coal-based power plants using current technology. The nearly 40-percent reduction in emissions mandated by the proposed regulation would be impossible to meet with today’s technology, and the EPA knows it.

 

[eagle1462010]

The OP is a straw man argument only intended to paint a broad brush at those who are ticked off by Gov't Agencies creating regulations without the consent of Congress. The Dems couldn't pass Cap and Trade so they do it by executive fiat or EPA fiat.

To start a thread that says that those who oppose these agencies for their abuse of power as completely against ANY REGULATION at all is UTTER NONSENSE. No one is stating that at all, and to add that we think they are not Constitutional shows a new tactic by the ASS party of LIES.

 

[Contumacious]

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Regulation is absolutely necessary for healthily-functioning economy on a variety of levels.

And of course, a "healthily-functioning economy" is one that allocates to you the appropiate amount of food stamps.

 

[Clementine]

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Regulation is absolutely necessary for healthily-functioning economy on a variety of levels.

Unfortunately, our "leaders" have yet to discover the distinction between "more" regulation and "better" regulation.

They're still mired in the simplistic chemotherapeutic method of regulation, damaging and killing all cells in the general area of the cells for which they're aiming.

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They have yet to figure out how to write common sense into any legislation.

We have so many regulations that no one can possibly keep up with all of them and it's impossible for government to enforce them. The process of enforcement seems pretty selective at this point and the laws and regulations are easy to use against companies they don't like while others are left alone. That's true of all government agencies and we've seen examples with the IRS, the NSA, the EPA and DOJ.

I have read that the majority of people in this country are guilty of breaking a law or two because they have no idea they are doing so. While ignorance of the law is no excuse, it is impossible for anyone to know all the laws and it's unreasonable to expect people to check before doing the simplest things, like catching rain water in a barrel, to see if it's legal. People often rely on common sense and that doesn't help to understand government rules.

The private sector is being smothered in new regulations, countless ones just in the last year. It's killing jobs.