Are democrats intentionally trying to lose the 2016 election?

[NYcarbineer]

how many electoral votes in those two states? I understand it quite well.

Didn't John Kerry win California and New York? Why wasn't he president?

Didn't Al Gore win California and New York?

For you to claim that California and New York decide who wins is retarded.

if obama had failed to carry either of those states romney could have won. add ohio, penn, and fla and it could have been a landslide for romney. so my point is valid. a small number of states decide the elections. the EC is supposed to prevent that, but it doesn't.

hope you are not too confused.

So if GW Bush had not won Florida in 2000, or had not won Ohio in 2004, he would have lost those elections.

What's your point again?

 

[Redfish]

how many electoral votes in those two states? I understand it quite well.

Quite a few but they aren't why Obama won, Romney had no chance in either state. Did Bush win in 2004 because of Texas? No.

Stating that Obama won in 2012 because of CA and NY is an idiotic statement.

Obama won in 2012 because of Florida and Ohio

correct, and that is how many states? what would have happened it romney had taken Ca or NY? you say fla and oh because they were the last ones in, but the real swingers were NY and CA.

 

[Redfish]

Didn't John Kerry win California and New York? Why wasn't he president?

Didn't Al Gore win California and New York?

For you to claim that California and New York decide who wins is retarded.

if obama had failed to carry either of those states romney could have won. add ohio, penn, and fla and it could have been a landslide for romney. so my point is valid. a small number of states decide the elections. the EC is supposed to prevent that, but it doesn't.

hope you are not too confused.

So if GW Bush had not won Florida in 2000, or had not won Ohio in 2004, he would have lost those elections.

What's your point again?

its really not complicated---one or two large states usually decide the elections---whats your point?

 

[rightwinger]

Quite a few but they aren't why Obama won, Romney had no chance in either state. Did Bush win in 2004 because of Texas? No.

Stating that Obama won in 2012 because of CA and NY is an idiotic statement.

Obama won in 2012 because of Florida and Ohio

correct, and that is how many states? what would have happened it romney had taken Ca or NY? you say fla and oh because they were the last ones in, but the real swingers were NY and CA.

If Romney had taken NY or California there would have been a massive investigation. He was never a viable candidate in either state

As it is, he was defeated in nine out of ten swing states and never had a chance

 

[kiwiman127]

Considering that a majority of Americans think the GOP is extremist, what is the GOP going to do to turn that tide? If they keep on doing what they are doing, the public's perception will continue to be negative.
The Dems may also be extremist, but they don't have any balls, don't try to scream down opposite views and play that liability to appear more mainstream than the GOP.
Go figure.

prove that a majority think the GOP is extremist, how can that be when 40% of americans consider themselves conservative and only 20% consider themselves liberals.?

CNN Poll: Are GOP policies too extreme?
CNN Poll: Are GOP policies too extreme? ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

 

[NYcarbineer]

obama also promised not to touch medicare or social security, he ran on no increased taxes for anyone making under 250K. He lied to you, you voted for a liar and a fraud.

speaking of fiscal disasters--------national debt increased from 9T to 17T and will be over 20T when obozo finally leaves office. he will have increased the debt more than all previous presidents combined. He will have added 11T to the debt, all the previous 43 only added 9T.

The debt as of January 20th 2009 was 10.6 trillion. Stop lying to me, or stop posting shit you have no clue about,

or stop responding to my posts altogether.

Take your pick.

you're right. I should have said obama increased it from 10 to 17, or 11 to 18 if you want to round up.

but that does not change the fact that obama will have added more debt than all 43 previous presidents.

are you proud of that?

Adjusted for inflation he will have done no such thing.

Not to mention the fact that the interest payment on the debt that Obama inherited is greater than every entire budget up into the 1960's.

 

[AceRothstein]

Quite a few but they aren't why Obama won, Romney had no chance in either state. Did Bush win in 2004 because of Texas? No.

Stating that Obama won in 2012 because of CA and NY is an idiotic statement.

Obama won in 2012 because of Florida and Ohio

correct, and that is how many states? what would have happened it romney had taken Ca or NY? you say fla and oh because they were the last ones in, but the real swingers were NY and CA.

They were no such thing as Romney didn't have a prayer in either state. That's like saying TX was a real swinger in 2000. FL and OH were real swingers in 2012 because they were close, just like FL in 2000.

 

[NYcarbineer]

if obama had failed to carry either of those states romney could have won. add ohio, penn, and fla and it could have been a landslide for romney. so my point is valid. a small number of states decide the elections. the EC is supposed to prevent that, but it doesn't.

hope you are not too confused.

So if GW Bush had not won Florida in 2000, or had not won Ohio in 2004, he would have lost those elections.

What's your point again?

its really not complicated---one or two large states usually decide the elections---whats your point?

No they don't. You need 270 electoral votes. You can't get 270 electoral votes with any 2 states,

so one or two large states cannot possibly decide the elections.

 

[Redfish]

The debt as of January 20th 2009 was 10.6 trillion. Stop lying to me, or stop posting shit you have no clue about,

or stop responding to my posts altogether.

Take your pick.

you're right. I should have said obama increased it from 10 to 17, or 11 to 18 if you want to round up.

but that does not change the fact that obama will have added more debt than all 43 previous presidents.

are you proud of that?

Adjusted for inflation he will have done no such thing.

Not to mention the fact that the interest payment on the debt that Obama inherited is greater than every entire budget up into the 1960's.

adjusting for inflation is just a game to make the debt look smaller. regardless of inflation, it is 17 trillion real american dollars that we have no way of ever paying off. Just paying the interest is destroying our economy and making it necessary to keep raising the debt ceiling and making the problem worse.

you dems want a crisis? here's a real one. But no, you would rather spend your time and energy of gay marriage and Trayvon protests.

 

[Redfish]

So if GW Bush had not won Florida in 2000, or had not won Ohio in 2004, he would have lost those elections.

What's your point again?

its really not complicated---one or two large states usually decide the elections---whats your point?

No they don't. You need 270 electoral votes. You can't get 270 electoral votes with any 2 states,

so one or two large states cannot possibly decide the elections.

really, ok lets see now. if its tied when the votes come in from CA-------duh. or how about if its tied when the votes come in from Hawaii? double Duh.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

I wonder what Latinos really think about the federal government trying to railroad one of their own on trumped-up murder charges? It will be interesting to see how it develops.

 

[Redfish]

I wonder what Latinos really think about the federal government trying to railroad one of their own on trumped-up murder charges? It will be interesting to see how it develops.

but Zimmerman is a "white" hispanic. the racism of the obama administration and the media makes me vomit.

 

[Londoner]

The OP is either really young or under-educated or both.

"Obama's failed Marxism"

Take ...

...the stock market gains compared to Bush

... and the deficit reduction compared to Bush

... and the reduction of federal and state work forces compared to Bush

....and Obama looks like Milton Friedman

... (compared to Bush)

(The OP has been lied to by Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and FOX News)

 

[candycorn]

California and New York elected obama in 2012.

I don't think you understand how the Electoral College works.

We'll add that to the long list of things he doesn't understand. 332-206 wasn't decided by 2 states.

 

[Redfish]

California and New York elected obama in 2012.

I don't think you understand how the Electoral College works.

We'll add that to the long list of things he doesn't understand. 332-206 wasn't decided by 2 states.

how many electoral votes in NY and CA? do you know? if not, look it up.

 

[Redfish]

The OP is either really young or under-educated or both.

"Obama's failed Marxism"

Take

The stock market gains compared to Bush

And the deficit reduction compared to Bush

And the reduction of federal and state work forces compared to Bush

and Obama looks like Milton Friedman compared to Bush

(The OP has been lied to by Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and FOX News)

the market has done well because the FED has continued to pump low interest money into it.

there has been no deficit reduction under obama, the annual deficit has remained at 1 trillion

yes, obozo has laid off some federal employees and put them on the unemployment rolls, so we are still paying them with federal money.

you, are the one who has been lied to, whats sad is that you repeat the lies without checking them for accuracy

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think you understand how the Electoral College works.

We'll add that to the long list of things he doesn't understand. 332-206 wasn't decided by 2 states.

how many electoral votes in NY and CA? do you know? if not, look it up.

Less than a quarter of the 332 he received

 

[Redfish]

We'll add that to the long list of things he doesn't understand. 332-206 wasn't decided by 2 states.

how many electoral votes in NY and CA? do you know? if not, look it up.

Less than a quarter of the 332 he received

How many?

 

[Redfish]

the answer is 84. now add 84 to romney's count and subtract 84 from obama's count. who is the winner now?

 

[Redfish]

RW and Candy


I will be waiting for your apologies.