Are democrats intentionally trying to lose the 2016 election?

[NYcarbineer]

its really not complicated---one or two large states usually decide the elections---whats your point?

No they don't. You need 270 electoral votes. You can't get 270 electoral votes with any 2 states,

so one or two large states cannot possibly decide the elections.

really, ok lets see now. if its tied when the votes come in from CA-------duh. or how about if its tied when the votes come in from Hawaii? double Duh.

If it's tied then it means the other votes have been counted.

GW Bush won the 2000 election by 5 electoral votes. That means that if New Hampshire had gone to Gore,

Gore would have won. Does that mean that a small state like New Hampshire has too much power,
because it can decide a presidential election?

According to you it does. Kind of makes you sound a bit dizzy.

 

[NYcarbineer]

the answer is 84. now add 84 to romney's count and subtract 84 from obama's count. who is the winner now?

Why would you subtract those 2 states from Obama? He won the vote in both of those states.

Romney lost because he got fewer votes than Obama. Period.

 

[rightwinger]

RW and Candy


I will be waiting for your apologies.

How many additional votes would have been needed to take those two states?

Both were off the table for Romney and neither was in play

 

[Londoner]

the market has done well because the FED has continued to pump low interest money into it.

A Marxist would not allow the supposedly independent Fed to give the private sector a free ride from the public funds of the Federal Reserve. The country exists to loan virtually free money to the private sector, and then bail them out if they over leverage. Nor would a Marxist build a financial team out of Wall Street stalwarts, the pinnacle of private sector wealth. Nor would he elect chief economist of the World Bank (and noted mega-capitalist free marketeer), Lawrence Summers, to head his National Economic Council. You will recall that Summers took a shit all over Leftie environmentalists when he told them that any attempt by government to place environmental limits on profit would be a disaster.

Meaning: your talking points are getting old. We heard the same Marxist blah blah during Carter, who deregulated transportation and communications (and left the nation with less than 1/2 the debt of Reagan, the undisputed king of deficit spending). Then we heard it under Clinton, whose chief financial advisor was Robert Rubin, who worked for Goldman Sachs and ran Citigroup, two corporations that have more contempt for Karl Marx than just about anyone on the ******* planet.

Please - if you're going to criticize our corporate funded public officials - at least say something interesting.

 

[expatriate]

its really not complicated---one or two large states usually decide the elections---whats your point?

No they don't. You need 270 electoral votes. You can't get 270 electoral votes with any 2 states,

so one or two large states cannot possibly decide the elections.

really, ok lets see now. if its tied when the votes come in from CA-------duh. or how about if its tied when the votes come in from Hawaii? double Duh.

The fact remains... every state helps decide the election one way or another. NY and CA are the two biggest states, and they are also two of THE MOST solid dark blue states on the map. WHose fault is THAT? Obama's? Obama could not have won either election without taking the states he was expected to take as well as the lion's share of battleground states.

Like I said... the GOP is supposedly a party of grown ups. QUIT ******* WHINING and learn how to nominate a candidate who can win, not just in the dead red deep south, and in states where prairie dogs outnumber people, but across the map. LIKE WE DID. It isn't ******* rocket science. The game is to hold your base and keep them enthusiastic enough to come out to vote while somehow appealing to the moderate and independent voters in the middle. We did it. You didn't. And if you look back and honestly think you had a PRAYER nominating, first, a guy who looked like he wasn't going to live to see the end of his first term, and then, a totally out of touch uber-rich elitist in magic underwear, then clearly, the GOP doesn't deserve to get anybody's vote until they grow up

 

[expatriate]

RW and Candy


I will be waiting for your apologies.

apologize for what? for schooling your ass all over this thread for page after page?

I will admit, I feel badly just having played a minor role in this epic beatdown of your stupid blathering, but I sure as hell have no plans on apologizing it for it. I am sure they don't either. You need to grow up and learn how politics works.

 

[AceRothstein]

BSBA in business administration with a minor in financial management. MBA from Harvard Business school.

Based upon your posts in this thread, you wouldn't make it through the application.

 

[JoeB131]

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opinions are like assholes--everyone has one. we will see who is right in 14 and 16.

face it, obama has been a disappointment to you lefties. He has failed economically, fiscally, and internationally. He is the worst president in our history. He makes Carter look like a wizard.

Plus, obama is the first american president who does not love this country and what it stands for. Soetoro and mooshelle hate this country and want to punish it for its greed and for having slavery.

Every president disappoints his supporters. Our system limits what a president can do.

Even Reagan disappointed his supporters. Then they made up a Mythic Reagan who didn't look anything like the 40th President.

In 2014, it's probable that the GOP will make gains, but frankly, I don't see how the GOP changes the national dynamic in 2016. Women and minorities still don't trust them.

 

[Redfish]

RW and Candy


I will be waiting for your apologies.

How many additional votes would have been needed to take those two states?

Both were off the table for Romney and neither was in play

You collective group of left wing idiots claimed that california and NY did not elect obama. I said that if those two states had gone to Romney he would have won,.
then I gave you the numbers to prove it.

Now in your insanity you are trying to change the topic because I destroyed you once again with facts.

you guys are like all liberals---------full of shit.

 

[Redfish]

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opinions are like assholes--everyone has one. we will see who is right in 14 and 16.

face it, obama has been a disappointment to you lefties. He has failed economically, fiscally, and internationally. He is the worst president in our history. He makes Carter look like a wizard.

Plus, obama is the first american president who does not love this country and what it stands for. Soetoro and mooshelle hate this country and want to punish it for its greed and for having slavery.

Every president disappoints his supporters. Our system limits what a president can do.

Even Reagan disappointed his supporters. Then they made up a Mythic Reagan who didn't look anything like the 40th President.

In 2014, it's probable that the GOP will make gains, but frankly, I don't see how the GOP changes the national dynamic in 2016. Women and minorities still don't trust them.

ALL women and ALL minorites??? are you fricken crazy? your stupid left wing generalizations just make you look more and more like a paid parrot who repeats bullshit and smiles as its being fed to him.

 

[Katzndogz]

If democrats keep trying to politicize the Zimmerman case, their chances in 2016 are getting dimmer all the time.

 

[rightwinger]

RW and Candy


I will be waiting for your apologies.

How many additional votes would have been needed to take those two states?

Both were off the table for Romney and neither was in play

You collective group of left wing idiots claimed that california and NY did not elect obama. I said that if those two states had gone to Romney he would have won,.
then I gave you the numbers to prove it.

Now in your insanity you are trying to change the topic because I destroyed you once again with facts.

you guys are like all liberals---------full of shit.

Your facts equate to fantasies and have no reflection of the 2012 political climate

 

[Redfish]

RW and Candy


I will be waiting for your apologies.

apologize for what? for schooling your ass all over this thread for page after page?

I will admit, I feel badly just having played a minor role in this epic beatdown of your stupid blathering, but I sure as hell have no plans on apologizing it for it. I am sure they don't either. You need to grow up and learn how politics works.

all you have done in this thread is embarrass yourself and your left wing cohorts.

I gave you assholes the numbers to prove that those states would have changed the electoral count for Romney------but you are still too fuckin stupid to comprehend simple math.

 

[Redfish]

How many additional votes would have been needed to take those two states?

Both were off the table for Romney and neither was in play

You collective group of left wing idiots claimed that california and NY did not elect obama. I said that if those two states had gone to Romney he would have won,.
then I gave you the numbers to prove it.

Now in your insanity you are trying to change the topic because I destroyed you once again with facts.

you guys are like all liberals---------full of shit.

Your facts equate to fantasies and have no reflection of the 2012 political climate

Geeeez, you are thick headed. 84 votes in those two states. obama got both.

now, add 84 to romney's count and subtract 84 from obama's count-------who wins?

Those two states could have changed the result-------that was my only point.

this is not about political climate-----its about basic math.

Damn, but you libtards piss me off with your lunatic thought processes.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You collective group of left wing idiots claimed that california and NY did not elect obama. I said that if those two states had gone to Romney he would have won,.
then I gave you the numbers to prove it.

Now in your insanity you are trying to change the topic because I destroyed you once again with facts.

you guys are like all liberals---------full of shit.

Your facts equate to fantasies and have no reflection of the 2012 political climate

Geeeez, you are thick headed. 84 votes in those two states. obama got both.

now, add 84 to romney's count and subtract 84 from obama's count-------who wins?

Those two states could have changed the result-------that was my only point.

this is not about political climate-----its about basic math.

Damn, but you libtards piss me off with your lunatic thought processes.

So now you're claiming you weren't trying to make some larger point?

lolol

 

[rightwinger]

You collective group of left wing idiots claimed that california and NY did not elect obama. I said that if those two states had gone to Romney he would have won,.
then I gave you the numbers to prove it.

Now in your insanity you are trying to change the topic because I destroyed you once again with facts.

you guys are like all liberals---------full of shit.

Your facts equate to fantasies and have no reflection of the 2012 political climate

Geeeez, you are thick headed. 84 votes in those two states. obama got both.

now, add 84 to romney's count and subtract 84 from obama's count-------who wins?

Those two states could have changed the result-------that was my only point.

this is not about political climate-----its about basic math.

Damn, but you libtards piss me off with your lunatic thought processes.

Yes and if fairies and leprechans supported Romney he would have won in a landslide

Your what if scenarios are ridiculous

 

[NYcarbineer]

RW and Candy


I will be waiting for your apologies.

How many additional votes would have been needed to take those two states?

Both were off the table for Romney and neither was in play

You collective group of left wing idiots claimed that california and NY did not elect obama. I said that if those two states had gone to Romney he would have won,.
then I gave you the numbers to prove it.

Now in your insanity you are trying to change the topic because I destroyed you once again with facts.

you guys are like all liberals---------full of shit.

You're the one who brought up NY and CA. As an attempt to disparage Obama's victory.

 

[rightwinger]

Your facts equate to fantasies and have no reflection of the 2012 political climate

Geeeez, you are thick headed. 84 votes in those two states. obama got both.

now, add 84 to romney's count and subtract 84 from obama's count-------who wins?

Those two states could have changed the result-------that was my only point.

this is not about political climate-----its about basic math.

Damn, but you libtards piss me off with your lunatic thought processes.

So now you're claiming you weren't trying to make some larger point?

lolol

His point is that if California and New York were not liberal they would be conservative

 

[Redfish]

How many additional votes would have been needed to take those two states?

Both were off the table for Romney and neither was in play

You collective group of left wing idiots claimed that california and NY did not elect obama. I said that if those two states had gone to Romney he would have won,.
then I gave you the numbers to prove it.

Now in your insanity you are trying to change the topic because I destroyed you once again with facts.

you guys are like all liberals---------full of shit.

You're the one who brought up NY and CA. As an attempt to disparage Obama's victory.

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what I said: "California and New York elected obama in 2012."

The point being that those two states have enough electoral votes that the result would have been different if romney won them.

there was no bigger point. just pointing out that the left coast and the NY city have a disproportionate say in the electoral process.

Thats my opinion, you are welcome to disagree. hurling juvenile insults just makes you look more disengenuous than you usually do.

 

[Redfish]

Your facts equate to fantasies and have no reflection of the 2012 political climate

Geeeez, you are thick headed. 84 votes in those two states. obama got both.

now, add 84 to romney's count and subtract 84 from obama's count-------who wins?

Those two states could have changed the result-------that was my only point.

this is not about political climate-----its about basic math.

Damn, but you libtards piss me off with your lunatic thought processes.

Yes and if fairies and leprechans supported Romney he would have won in a landslide

Your what if scenarios are ridiculous

and if the media had not been in a constant state of orgasm over obama they might have done their job and actually found out who and what the guy is.