Are democrats intentionally trying to lose the 2016 election?

[Redfish]

You said every economic indicator is down......you are wrong

Admit it

Ok, every economic indicator except the stock market, happy now?

Monthly employment went from losing 770,000 jobs a month to positive 200,000 jobs. That is almost a million jobs a month swing

Admit you are lying

^^^that is not true. you have been slammed for making that false claim before, and you know it. continuing to repeat a lie does not magically change it to the truth.


that stat was taken from december when seasonal jobs peaked with Christmas help. There has been no annual job increase under obama. there are fewer people working today than when he took office.

YOU are the liar here.

 

[rightwinger]

Ok, every economic indicator except the stock market, happy now?

Monthly employment went from losing 770,000 jobs a month to positive 200,000 jobs. That is almost a million jobs a month swing

Admit you are lying

^^^that is not true. you have been slammed for making that false claim before, and you know it. continuing to repeat a lie does not magically change it to the truth.


that stat was taken from december when seasonal jobs peaked with Christmas help. There has been no annual job increase under obama. there are fewer people working today than when he took office.

YOU are the liar here.

The employment numbers don't lie....

However, you do

 

[Redfish]

Monthly employment went from losing 770,000 jobs a month to positive 200,000 jobs. That is almost a million jobs a month swing

Admit you are lying

^^^that is not true. you have been slammed for making that false claim before, and you know it. continuing to repeat a lie does not magically change it to the truth.


that stat was taken from december when seasonal jobs peaked with Christmas help. There has been no annual job increase under obama. there are fewer people working today than when he took office.

YOU are the liar here.

The employment numbers don't lie....

However, you do

prove it

 

[rightwinger]

^^^that is not true. you have been slammed for making that false claim before, and you know it. continuing to repeat a lie does not magically change it to the truth.


that stat was taken from december when seasonal jobs peaked with Christmas help. There has been no annual job increase under obama. there are fewer people working today than when he took office.

YOU are the liar here.

The employment numbers don't lie....

However, you do

prove it

Historical Perspective On Monthly Job Growth - Seeking Alpha

 

[Redfish]

americans employed June 2009 146,063,000

americans employed June 2013 144,058,000

from BLS Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

 

[Redfish]

The employment numbers don't lie....

However, you do

prove it

Historical Perspective On Monthly Job Growth - Seeking Alpha

I post BLS and you post a blog LOL

 

[rightwinger]

prove it

Historical Perspective On Monthly Job Growth - Seeking Alpha

I post BLS and you post a blog LOL

You still can't deny the improvement in the monthly employment figures

More proof you lie

 

[EriktheRed]

opinions are like assholes--everyone has one. we will see who is right in 14 and 16.

face it, obama has been a disappointment to you lefties. He has failed economically, fiscally, and internationally. He is the worst president in our history. He makes Carter look like a wizard.

Plus, obama is the first american president who does not love this country and what it stands for. Soetoro and mooshelle hate this country and want to punish it for its greed and for having slavery.

^^^^^^

Another stupid wingnut who still doesn't seem to grasp that most of the country doesn't hate the Prez near as much as he does.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ok, every economic indicator except the stock market, happy now?

Monthly employment went from losing 770,000 jobs a month to positive 200,000 jobs. That is almost a million jobs a month swing

Admit you are lying

^^^that is not true. you have been slammed for making that false claim before, and you know it. continuing to repeat a lie does not magically change it to the truth.


that stat was taken from december when seasonal jobs peaked with Christmas help. There has been no annual job increase under obama. there are fewer people working today than when he took office.

YOU are the liar here.

Jobs numbers are seasonally adjusted.

 

[JoeB131]

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no federal income taxes---------thats the statistic. No one has ever claimed that 47% pay no sales taxes, property taxes etc.

Your spin fails again.

Actually, the only group that hit 47% was one category - single filers- in one year - 2009, when the recession hit the high water mark. YOu'd know this if you read the article.

And most of those people paid other taxes.

INcidently, when the income tax first came out, it was SPECIFICALLY designed to tax the wealthy. That's it's whole purpose.

Hmmm, so your history teacher told you that the federal income tax was enacted to punish the successful in the country? That was the "whole purpose" of it ?

Well, he called "Making them pay their fair share", but that's a concept you don't understand.

 

[Redfish]

Actually, the only group that hit 47% was one category - single filers- in one year - 2009, when the recession hit the high water mark. YOu'd know this if you read the article.

And most of those people paid other taxes.

INcidently, when the income tax first came out, it was SPECIFICALLY designed to tax the wealthy. That's it's whole purpose.

Hmmm, so your history teacher told you that the federal income tax was enacted to punish the successful in the country? That was the "whole purpose" of it ?

Well, he called "Making them pay their fair share", but that's a concept you don't understand.

is it "fair" that the top 10% pay 80% of federal income taxes? is it "fair" that almost half pay zero federal income taxes?

do you know what the word "fair" means?

we have had a progressive income tax from the beginning, but in the beginning everyone paid something----that was "fair".

but you said that the federal income tax was "designed to tax the wealthy" that is simply not true. the federal income tax was "designed" as a way to fund the increasing cost of government.

 

[Redfish]

Monthly employment went from losing 770,000 jobs a month to positive 200,000 jobs. That is almost a million jobs a month swing

Admit you are lying

^^^that is not true. you have been slammed for making that false claim before, and you know it. continuing to repeat a lie does not magically change it to the truth.


that stat was taken from december when seasonal jobs peaked with Christmas help. There has been no annual job increase under obama. there are fewer people working today than when he took office.

YOU are the liar here.

Jobs numbers are seasonally adjusted.

yes they are, thats why I picked june 09 and june 13 to compare. there were fewer americans working in june 13 than there were working in june 09.

the obama admin has not created any jobs. unemployment has remained around 8% his entire time in office.

 

[Redfish]

Actually, the only group that hit 47% was one category - single filers- in one year - 2009, when the recession hit the high water mark. YOu'd know this if you read the article.

And most of those people paid other taxes.

INcidently, when the income tax first came out, it was SPECIFICALLY designed to tax the wealthy. That's it's whole purpose.

Hmmm, so your history teacher told you that the federal income tax was enacted to punish the successful in the country? That was the "whole purpose" of it ?

Well, he called "Making them pay their fair share", but that's a concept you don't understand.

oh but I do understand it-----its called 'punish success and reward failure'.

 

[pinqy]

americans employed June 2009 146,063,000

No, that's the level to June 2007
June 2009 was 140,005,000
Enter series LNS12000000 at BLS Series Report : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

 

[Redfish]

americans employed June 2009 146,063,000

No, that's the level to June 2007
June 2009 was 140,005,000
Enter series LNS12000000 at BLS Series Report : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

thanks, I picked up the wrong number. now it looks even worse for RW and his left wing cronies and their lies.

 

[pinqy]

^^^that is not true. you have been slammed for making that false claim before, and you know it. continuing to repeat a lie does not magically change it to the truth.


that stat was taken from december when seasonal jobs peaked with Christmas help. There has been no annual job increase under obama. there are fewer people working today than when he took office.

YOU are the liar here.

Jobs numbers are seasonally adjusted.

yes they are, thats why I picked june 09 and june 13 to compare.

But you used the seasonally adjusted numbers. Comparing the same month in different years is when you want to use the UNadjusted numbers: June 2009 had 140,826,000 employed and June 2013 was 144,841,000 an increase of 4 million.

Properly using the adjusted numbers to compare Jan 2009 and Jun 2013, we get the number of employed going from 142,153,000 to 144,058,000 an increase of 1.9 million. So much for your claim of fewer working now.

 

[JoeB131]

is it "fair" that the top 10% pay 80% of federal income taxes? is it "fair" that almost half pay zero federal income taxes?

If they control 80% of the wealth, that is absolutely fair. And reasonable.

but you said that the federal income tax was "designed to tax the wealthy" that is simply not true. the federal income tax was "designed" as a way to fund the increasing cost of government.

Do you know what the top rate was under that Commie Bastard, Dwight Eisenhower? It was 93% on the top bracket, which was over $400,000 in 1952 dollars.

Not to worry, Ronnie Reagan got that tax totally shifted to poor people and working families where it belongs.

 

[Redfish]

Jobs numbers are seasonally adjusted.

yes they are, thats why I picked june 09 and june 13 to compare.

But you used the seasonally adjusted numbers. Comparing the same month in different years is when you want to use the UNadjusted numbers: June 2009 had 140,826,000 employed and June 2013 was 144,841,000 an increase of 4 million.

Properly using the adjusted numbers to compare Jan 2009 and Jun 2013, we get the number of employed going from 142,153,000 to 144,058,000 an increase of 1.9 million. So much for your claim of fewer working now.

let me see if I understand. you want to use the seasonally adjusted numbers if they help obama, but not if they make him look like a failure at creating jobs???

 

[Redfish]

is it "fair" that the top 10% pay 80% of federal income taxes? is it "fair" that almost half pay zero federal income taxes?

If they control 80% of the wealth, that is absolutely fair. And reasonable.

but you said that the federal income tax was "designed to tax the wealthy" that is simply not true. the federal income tax was "designed" as a way to fund the increasing cost of government.

Do you know what the top rate was under that Commie Bastard, Dwight Eisenhower? It was 93% on the top bracket, which was over $400,000 in 1952 dollars.

Not to worry, Ronnie Reagan got that tax totally shifted to poor people and working families where it belongs.

when the top rate was 93% there were also thousands of deductions and exemptions that were in the tax code. No one paid 93%

What Reagan, and Carter, Ford, Bush, Clinton, and Bush 43 did was eliminate many deductions and exemptions and lower the tax rate. The very rich are actually paying a higher % today than the did in Ike's day.

as to shifting the burden to the poor----total bullshit. 47% pay no federal income tax. In fact most poor people have a negative tax bill due to EIC, they get money back even though they paid nothing in.

as usual, your left wing talking points are lies.

 

[Seawytch]

is it "fair" that the top 10% pay 80% of federal income taxes? is it "fair" that almost half pay zero federal income taxes?

If they control 80% of the wealth, that is absolutely fair. And reasonable.

but you said that the federal income tax was "designed to tax the wealthy" that is simply not true. the federal income tax was "designed" as a way to fund the increasing cost of government.

Do you know what the top rate was under that Commie Bastard, Dwight Eisenhower? It was 93% on the top bracket, which was over $400,000 in 1952 dollars.

Not to worry, Ronnie Reagan got that tax totally shifted to poor people and working families where it belongs.

when the top rate was 93% there were also thousands of deductions and exemptions that were in the tax code. No one paid 93%

What Reagan, and Carter, Ford, Bush, Clinton, and Bush 43 did was eliminate many deductions and exemptions and lower the tax rate. The very rich are actually paying a higher % today than the did in Ike's day.

as to shifting the burden to the poor----total bullshit. 47% pay no federal income tax. In fact most poor people have a negative tax bill due to EIC, they get money back even though they paid nothing in.

as usual, your left wing talking points are lies.

They still paid over 35%, much more than they pay now. There are still deductions that take the 35% they are supposed to pay down to the, what, 13-15% the Romneybot paid?