Are Atheists Right? - My Compilation

[ding]

Come back taz. I still have 41,499,994 more links to go for evidence of the big bang.

 

[Ringtone]

EXACTLY what dingbat says: "The existence of the Universe manifestly is the empirical evidence for God's existence." Now beat it before I report you.

Report what? I'm the only one on this board who has put the matter in those very words . . . dozens of times going back years. You could say that it's my signature: The existence of the Universe manifestly is the empirical evidence for God's existence.

No it's not. We don't know why we're here and by what process. For you to assign that to an invisible superbeing automatically without actually knowing is quite simply wrong. Did you read that in a book? With a fantastical story about a 40 day worldwide flood?

Logic says so. Chemical Engineer, ding, I and others apprehend the chain of logic at a glance. We think. You don't. You suffer from a virulent case of closeminditus and you won't take the cure as that entails thinking.

 

[Taz]

EXACTLY what dingbat says: "The existence of the Universe manifestly is the empirical evidence for God's existence." Now beat it before I report you.

Report what? I'm the only one on this board who has put the matter in those very words . . . dozens of times going back years. You could say that it's my signature: The existence of the Universe manifestly is the empirical evidence for God's existence.

No it's not. We don't know why we're here and by what process. For you to assign that to an invisible superbeing automatically without actually knowing is quite simply wrong. Did you read that in a book? With a fantastical story about a 40 day worldwide flood?

Logic says so. Chemical Engineer, ding., I and others apprehend the chain of logic at a glance. We think. You don't. You suffer from a virulent case of closeminditus and you won't take the cure as that entails thinking.
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Logic says you don’t know shit about what you’re talking about. Neither does your sock. You guys probably just fell off the same turnip truck.

 

[Taz]

Come back taz. I still have 41,499,994 more links to go for evidence of the big bang.

But you have nothing that describes the first 5 seconds with scientific, empirical evidence. That’s why you’re on TILT! I love it when I do that to you, you’re such a pussy.

 

[alang1216]

EXACTLY what dingbat says: "The existence of the Universe manifestly is the empirical evidence for God's existence." Now beat it before I report you.

Report what? I'm the only one on this board who has put the matter in those very words . . . dozens of times going back years. You could say that it's my signature: The existence of the Universe manifestly is the empirical evidence for God's existence.

No it's not. We don't know why we're here and by what process. For you to assign that to an invisible superbeing automatically without actually knowing is quite simply wrong. Did you read that in a book? With a fantastical story about a 40 day worldwide flood?

Logic says so. Chemical Engineer, ding., I and others apprehend the chain of logic at a glance. We think. You don't. You suffer from a virulent case of closeminditus and you won't take the cure as that entails thinking.
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Logic says you don’t know shit about what you’re talking about. Neither does your sock. You guys probably just fell off the same turnip truck.

You guys are really not far apart. You don't know if there was a creator since you don't consider their evidence as proof. They look at the evidence and are convinced there is a creator. Not so far apart.

The disconnect is that they are convinced there is a creator and, literally in a leap of faith, connect that creator with the god of the Bible. For what it's worth (very little) I think your is the logical one.

 

[ding]

Come back taz. I still have 41,499,994 more links to go for evidence of the big bang.

But you have nothing that describes the first 5 seconds with scientific, empirical evidence. That’s why you’re on TILT! I love it when I do that to you, you’re such a pussy.

 

[NoNukes]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

 

[Taz]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

 

[NoNukes]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

How would you know either side is a lie?

 

[Taz]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

How would you know either side is a lie?

A lie in the sense that people who say "there is proof for a god" are lying because they know deep down that there's no such thing. Same with atheists, they say something knowing they can't prove it, hence it's a lie.

 

[NoNukes]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

How would you know either side is a lie?

A lie in the sense that people who say "there is proof for a god" are lying because they know deep down that there's no such thing. Same with atheists, they say something knowing they can't prove it, hence it's a lie.

If there is something that you believe and there are no facts either way, it is not a lie to you because it is what you believe.

 

[edthecynic]

It's not a coincidence that a universe being hardwired to produce intelligence popped into existence being created from nothing.

As has been shown to you over and over in many other threads, there is no such thing as "nothing." Yet you still mindlessly parrot that same LIE!

And yet the leading cosmological model is the universe began being created from nothing despite your objections.

First of all it is NOT "the leading cosmological model" it is the leading DISCREDITED MODEL where he STUPIDLY claims that the "nothing" consists of equal parts of positive and negative ENERGY, and energy is NOT nothing. This was shown to you at least 20 times in other threads, and yet you still mindlessly parrot the same lie over and over again.

 

[Blues Man]

Let's Examine Claims of Atheists

The Fallacy of Science vs. Religion

The atheists' frequent claim that science and religion are mutually exclusive is demonstrably false. If atheists were as "rational" and "intelligent" as they are always claiming, they would not resort to mendacity. Science pursues truth.

The list of scientists as men and women faith is long and growing.

List of Christians in science and technology - Wikipedia

“Science is not only compatible with spirituality, it is a profound source of spirituality. The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.”
” - Demon Haunted World, page 29, by Carl Sagan

“I believe in God more because of science than in spite of it.” – William Phillips, Nobel Laureate in Physics
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The Atheist Claim of Rationality and Intellectual Superiority


If atheists are, on average, intellectually superior to people of faith, then why do they abandon their religious belief in atheism at a rate higher than any other group? (The Supreme Court has adjudged atheism a religion.)




Atheists marry less, by far, than those of faith.

Recently the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life has published its mammoth study on Religion in America based on 35,000 interviews... According to the Pew Forum a whopping 37% of atheists never marry as opposed to 19% of the American population, 17% of Protestants and 17% of Catholics.[3]
The religious have better mental health into adulthood.
The abstract for the journal article Health and Well-Being Among the Non-religious: Atheists, Agnostics, and No Preference Compared with Religious Group Members published in the Journal of Religion and Health indicates: "On dimensions related to psychological well-being, atheists and agnostics tended to have worse outcomes than either those with religious affiliation or those with no religious preference."[2]
Global News reported:
“ Children who are raised with religious or spiritual beliefs tend to have better mental health into their adulthood, a new study from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health found.
According to the study’s findings, people who attended weekly religious services or prayed or meditated daily in their childhood reported greater life satisfaction in their 20s. People who grew up in a religious household also reported fewer symptoms of depression and lower rates of post-traumatic stress disorder.[3]
People of faith live longer than atheists.
For the study, a team of Ohio University academics, including associate professor of psychology Christian End, analysed more than 1,500 obituaries from across the US to piece together how the defining features of our lives affect our longevity.
These records include religious affiliations and marriage details as well as information on activities, hobbies and habits, which can help or hinder our health, not otherwise captured in census data.

The study, published in Social Psychological and Personality Science today, found that on average people whose obituary mentioned they were religious lived an extra 5.64 years.
Atheists commit suicide far more often than those of faith, which is clearly not "rational"
"Atheism: Contemporary Rates and Patterns" in The Cambridge Companion to Atheism, ed. by Michael Martin, Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, UK (2005). In examining various indicators of societal health, Zuckerman concludes about suicide:
"Concerning suicide rates, this is the one indicator of societal health in which religious nations fare much better than secular nations. According to the 2003 World Health Organization's report on international male suicides rates (which compared 100 countries), of the top ten nations with the highest male suicide rates, all but one (Sri Lanka) are strongly irreligious nations with high levels of atheism. It is interesting to note, however, that of the top remaining nine nations leading the world in male suicide rates, all are former Soviet/Communist nations, such as Belarus, Ukraine, and Latvia. Of the bottom ten nations with the lowest male suicide rates, all are highly religious nations with statistically insignificant levels of organic atheism."[3]
The list of atheist shooters and serial killers does not correspond to claims of intellectual superiority and rationality.

Atheists have a long record of being mass shooters and militant atheism in general has a causal association with mass murder.
Due to this fact, peer reviewed research published in academic journals has found that society-at-large is likely to hold atheists responsible for capital criminal acts and that even atheists are likely to assume that serial killers are fellow atheists.[2][3][4]
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“The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advance of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble.” – Adolf Hitler


"...indoctrinating them (scholars) with materialism, atheism, and the theory of evolution - the Chinese Communist Party systematically brainwashed a new generation of students, instilling hatred toward traditional culture. ... the CCP promoted atheism and launched ideological attacks against the belief in god.... using methods of violence and high pressure to suppress, persecute and, eliminate religions including the murder of religious practitioners." - The Epoch Times, July 29, 2019






Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins became atheists after long and exhaustive rational inquiries into the existence of God, both at the age of nine. - The Irrational Atheist, by Vox Day, page 243





The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined. – The Irrational Atheist, by Vox Day, page 240







Irrational Atheism

Atheists always claim to be more rational and more intelligent than Christians. They do not provide evidence of their arrogant, pretentious claim, but even if they did, it does not begin to prove their claim that God does not exist. Implied but not stated is the presumption that BECAUSE atheists are much smarter than you are, THEY must be right, and YOU must be wrong. That does not logically follow, and is a clear Fallacy of the Argument From Authority. So the statement of intellectual superiority itself is irrational.



Atheists claim that "there is no proof" of God. They seem blissfully ignorant of the fact that proof only exists in mathematics. So says mathematics professor John Lennox, of Oxford University.


His remark is echoed by the late Carl Sagan, a militant agnostic and Leftist, who said, "Nothing is known for certain except in pure mathematics." Atheists seem to dispute even their beloved Carl Sagan as they insist that they know for certain that Darwin was indisputably right, though it is not known "for certain," according to Sagan, and therefore, what need for God? Atheists Stalin and Hitler agreed wholeheartedly.


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No one I know thinks evolution is anything but a Theory.

Just like the Big Bang is a theory

Just like gods are theories.

 

[LittleNipper]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

How would you know either side is a lie?

A lie in the sense that people who say "there is proof for a god" are lying because they know deep down that there's no such thing. Same with atheists, they say something knowing they can't prove it, hence it's a lie.

Can you see GOD? NO? Therefore HE doesn't exist. Can you see the wind? Ah no? Therefore wind doesn't exist. At least from an atheistic point of view... But maybe I'm wrong. So tell me ------ have you ever seen the wind? Does that mean there is no such thing as wind?


John 3:8

“The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

 

[edthecynic]

Can you see GOD? NO? Therefore HE doesn't exist. Can you see the wind? Ah no? Therefore wind doesn't exist.

John 3:8
“The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

A perfect example of your STUPIDITY and the STUPIDITY and lack of science in the bible.

Lets start with you, can God be MEASURED, no therefore God does not exist. Can wind be measured, YES, yes it can, therefore wind exists.

Now for the bible:
A simple scientific device called a weathervane will show you where the wind is coming from and where it is going.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I can easily believe that there's some "higher power". I just think it's rather self-centered for any one religion to believe that their version is the only true version.

Then again, when I look at the ass on my smokin' hot Puerto Rican girlfriend, it's hard not to believe in God...

 

[Taz]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

How would you know either side is a lie?

A lie in the sense that people who say "there is proof for a god" are lying because they know deep down that there's no such thing. Same with atheists, they say something knowing they can't prove it, hence it's a lie.

If there is something that you believe and there are no facts either way, it is not a lie to you because it is what you believe.

If you believe something for which you know there is no proof for, you're a fucking idiot, plain and simple.

 

[Blues Man]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

How would you know either side is a lie?

A lie in the sense that people who say "there is proof for a god" are lying because they know deep down that there's no such thing. Same with atheists, they say something knowing they can't prove it, hence it's a lie.

Can you see GOD? NO? Therefore HE doesn't exist. Can you see the wind? Ah no? Therefore wind doesn't exist. At least from an atheistic point of view... But maybe I'm wrong. So tell me ------ have you ever seen the wind? Does that mean there is no such thing as wind?


John 3:8

“The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

Great argument wrong but great

 

[Taz]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof for or against the existence of an invisible superbeing that rules the universe. Making Agnosticism the thinking person's choice.

Agnostic. Afraid to commit.

To what? 2 unprovable statements? Agnostic are smart enough to wait for real proof either way.

It will never come. You are afraid to make a decision on what you believe. You are waiting for the second coming like those with religion.

Because it will never come I should pick a side that I know is a lie? Um...no.

How would you know either side is a lie?

A lie in the sense that people who say "there is proof for a god" are lying because they know deep down that there's no such thing. Same with atheists, they say something knowing they can't prove it, hence it's a lie.

Can you see GOD? NO? Therefore HE doesn't exist. Can you see the wind? Ah no? Therefore wind doesn't exist. At least from an atheistic point of view... But maybe I'm wrong. So tell me ------ have you ever seen the wind? Does that mean there is no such thing as wind?


John 3:8

“The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

I'm agnostic and see no proof either for or against the existence of a god. But leave the door open if anyone comes up with real proof either way. Can't be any fairer than that.

 

[Taz]

I can easily believe that there's some "higher power". I just think it's rather self-centered for any one religion to believe that their version is the only true version.

Then again, when I look at the ass on my smokin' hot Puerto Rican girlfriend, it's hard not to believe in God...

"I look at the ass on my smokin' hot Puerto Rican girlfriend", she must lay some pretty nice cable.