Are any trump devotees predicting, or desirous of, a ground war in Iran?

[berg80]

Treasury Secretary Jack Lew knows how much Obama gave:

Fact Check: Did the US under Obama give Iran $150 Billion?

U.S. is said to have handed $150 billion to Iran eight years ago, as tensions between the two nations worsen.

www.newsweek.com

Then U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told Congress in July 2015 that Iran gained access to $56 billion via the agreement, a fact check by PolitiFact in 2018 noted.

I get the distinct feeling you don't read what you post before you post it. Anyway, thanks for the help.

The $150 billion​

The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.

The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.

Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.

After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.

In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.

It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[Carl in Michigan]

They have to check TruthSocial first, to see what Trump wants to do, so they can think accordingly.
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There's that "Republican" again

 

[JoeB131]

Obama was played. That $56b was used to develop nukes and ICBMs.
The JCPOA already sunset, it was worthless.
Trump's "no nukes, period" is the correct policy.

Except they didn't build nukes during Obama, did they?

If Iran really wanted a nuke, they'd have a Nuke.

Despite Bibi claiming for 30 years that Iran was months from getting the bomb, the reality is, it just doesn't take that long to make a bomb if you really want one. It's 1940s technology.

 

[berg80]

Trump says U.S. will destroy Iran’s oil wells, Kharg Island without deal to ‘immediately’ reopen Hormuz Strait​

U.S. President Donald Trump has said the U.S. will “completely” obliterate Iran’s electric generating plants, oil wells and Kharg Island if the Strait of Hormuz is not “immediately” reopened and a peace deal is not reached “shortly.”

“The United States of America is in serious discussions with A NEW, AND MORE REASONABLE, REGIME to end our Military Operations in Iran,” he said in a post on Truth Social on Monday morning.

“Great progress has been made but, if for any reason a deal is not shortly reached, which it probably will be, and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately “Open for Business,” we will conclude our lovely “stay” in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil Wells and Kharg Island (and possibly all desalinization plants!), which we have purposefully not yet “touched.”″

Trump says U.S. will destroy Iran’s oil wells, Kharg Island without deal to 'immediately' reopen Hormuz Strait​

Donald Trump warned the U.S. will completely obliterate all of Iran's electric generating plants, oil wells and Kharg Island if a peace deal is not reached.

www.cnbc.com

I believe that's referred to as shotgun diplomacy. BTW, blowing up power plants is a war crime. But that hasn't stopped trump so far. No wonder he got rid of the JAG's.

'People Are Very Scared': Trump Administration Purge of JAG Officers Raises Legal, Ethical Fears | Military.com​

www.military.com

 

[JoeB131]

Would never have reached this point without the appeasement of Democrat administrations

More like, "Diplomacy".

Let's be honest what JCPOA was. The Europeans didn't like they couldn't trade with Iran because AIPAC dictates our policies. So they negotiated a very sensible agreement where Iran agreed to inspections and they got sanctions lifted.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Another stupid whataboutism.

Name the last war a Democrat started.

And it wasn't Ukraine.

Vietnam. That was easy.

 

[JoeB131]

Vietnam. That was easy.

so you have to go back 60 years, and that's ONLY if you count LBJ's deploying of troops and not Ike's deployment of "advisors".

Now, when I was growing up in the 1970s, my parents used to say, "Republicans give us Recessions, Democrats give us wars".

Today, Republicans give us recessions AND wars, and you guys keep voting them in.

 

[kyzr]

I get the distinct feeling you don't read what you post before you post it. Anyway, thanks for the help...

In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.

It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.

FACT: Obama gave Iran access to $56b, which they used to develop nukes and ICBMs.

There is no dancing around that.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

so you have to go back 60 years, and that's ONLY if you count LBJ's deploying of troops and not Ike's deployment of "advisors".

Now, when I was growing up in the 1970s, my parents used to say, "Republicans give us Recessions, Democrats give us wars".

Today, Republicans give us recessions AND wars, and you guys keep voting them in.

Both parties give us both. They're not worth the bottom of an outhouse.

 

[berg80]

FACT: Obama gave Iran access to $56b, which they used to develop nukes and ICBMs.

There is no dancing around that.

They weren't enriching uranium to weapons grade levels until after trump blew up the JCPOA.

 

[Lisa558]

Vietnam. That was easy.

What about Ukraine? Biden gave the go-ahead to Russia to invade….”a little bit.”

 

[berg80]

What about Ukraine? Biden gave the go-ahead to Russia to invade….”a little bit.”

See post #32. Like my friend, and virtually all trumples, you are brainwashed.

 

[Rambunctious]

Why?

Iran wasn't bothering us.

We created this situation by interfering in their politics since WWII, and then we complain about the results.

The Iranian regime has used repressive tactics in its wrongful detention of Americans in Iran on unsubstantiated criminal charges... The Iranian regime has also exported its repression through its harassment and lethal targeting of Iranian dissidents worldwide, including Americans living in the United States....

Iranian Regime’s War on America: Four Decades of Targeting U.S. Forces and Citizens

Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Iran has waged a decades-long campaign of violence against the United States, using terror proxies like Hezbollah and the Popular Mobilization Forces to target U.S. troops, diplomats, and civilians across the Middle East and beyond. This ongoing threat includes...

www.ajc.org

Educate yourself Nazi....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I had a falling out with a friend of over 60 years over the No Kings protests. Previous to that we had a debate over Mueller and his report. My takeaway is.........even after all this time I under estimated the degree to which he has immersed himself in the alternative reality right wing media is spewing. That is how I think about trumples now. I didn't fully comprehend how far down the rabbit hole they've gone.

This friend is a former partner in a CPA firm, a former teacher at his alma mater, and a millionaire. He's not dumb. But he is brainwashed. How badly? He called Mueller a stooge for the Democrats. He called me self righteous when I pointed out the factual findings from Mueller's report. He thinks Soros and some guy named Neville Singham, who I had never heard of, are responsible for the No Kings protests. It is difficult to fully grasp how completely different the world looks to them.

you ever think berg that you might be the brain washed one?...do you believe everything they hand you to post up here?...

 

[Rambunctious]

berg80 Educate yourself Nazi...

Iranian Regime’s War on America: Four Decades of Targeting U.S. Forces and Citizens

Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Iran has waged a decades-long campaign of violence against the United States, using terror proxies like Hezbollah and the Popular Mobilization Forces to target U.S. troops, diplomats, and civilians across the Middle East and beyond. This ongoing threat includes...

www.ajc.org

 

[kyzr]

They weren't enriching uranium to weapons grade levels until after trump blew up the JCPOA.

Total nonsense. Iran had secret enrichment sites all over the place.

https://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/weapon-program-background-report/irans-centrifuges-models-status

In recent years, Iran has developed and deployed centrifuge models that can enrich greater amounts of uranium with fewer machines relative to its original IR-1 design. In early 2025, the number of these advanced centrifuge models enriching uranium at declared sites surpassed the number of IR-1 machines known to be in production mode. Iran’s increasing mastery of centrifuge design and manufacturing raises the risk of a "sneakout," and it reflects an acquisition of knowledge that cannot be reversed.

 

[BlindBoo]

You don't care or even take notice when an Iranian funded proxy group kills American soldiers.

We funded Iraq, supplied them with spare parts for their soviet military hardware, and sold them all kind of western technology to help kill Iranian soldiers and civilians, during the 8 years Iran/Iraq war. Saddam became our attack dog proxy. But then again we sold Iran some missiles during that war too, blew an Iranian passenger jet out of the sky.....

The Soviet Union and China aided the North Vietnamese in killing Americans too. Want some payback from them too?