Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid?

[Pilot1]

Communism always becomes Oppressive Totalitarianism. Socialism is just the gateway to Communism. It is the consolidation of wealth, and power to the elite few.

 

[Tehon]

As you can see the basic concepts of Socialism run contrary to my beliefs on even the most basic level.

The basic tenet of Marxism is that no one owns your labor except you. Capitalism doesn't offer that.

 

[Tehon]

Communism always becomes Oppressive Totalitarianism. Socialism is just the gateway to Communism. It is the consolidation of wealth, and power to the elite few.

And what exactly do you think is transpiring under our capitalist system if not the consolidation of wealth and power?

 

[Lesh]

Pardon me for interrupting your right wing circle jerk here...but who admires communism here?

Not any liberals I know of.

Straw man much?

 

[Pilot1]

And what exactly do you think is transpiring under our capitalist system if not the consolidation of wealth and power?

No system is perfect. At least Capitalism is merit based, and everyone has an opportunity to succeed. People open small businesses, and become successful every day. It is possible. We have people improving their economic position all the time.

 

[MaryL]

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid?​

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid? - Black Community News
By Walter Williams -- A recent Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation survey found that 51 percent of American millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist country than in a capitalist country. Only 42 percent prefer the latter (Forty-Four Percent of Millennials Prefer Socialism. Do They Know What It Means?). Twenty-five percent of millennials who know who Vladimir Lenin was view him favorably. Lenin was the first premier of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Half of millennials have never heard of Communist Mao Zedong, who ruled China from 1949 to 1959 and was responsible for the deaths of 45 million Chinese people.… The number of people who died at the hands of Josef Stalin may be as high as 62 million. However, almost one-third of millennials think former President George W. Bush is responsible for more killings than Stalin (How Many Millennials Think Bush Killed More Than Stalin). By the way, Adolf Hitler, head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, was responsible for the deaths of about 20 million people. The Nazis come in as a poor third in terms of history’s most prolific mass murderers. According to professor Rudolph Rummel’s research, the 20th century, mankind’s most brutal century, saw 262 million people’s lives destroyed at the hands of their own governments (20th Century Democide)…. Young people who weren’t alive during World War II and its Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery under capitalism.” This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are.... Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery. This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are bashing in each other’s heads” (Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins)…. Are Americans who admire the world’s most brutal regimes miseducated or stupid? Or do they have some kind of devious agenda?


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If Socialism is such an ideal utopia of sunshine, lollipops and everything wonderful then why was the damn Berlin Wall built in the first place? Why all the positive Hype by the biased media for Venezuela that is suffering hyper-inflation, people starving and seeking to leave despite the fact that before the Chavez - Marxist Socialist takeover was the richest country in South America. (Venezuela Before Chávez: Anatomy of an Economic Collapse Edited by Ricardo Hausmann and Francisco R. RodrÃ*guez).
Millennials today are the results decades of infiltration by socialist/communist propagandists posing as educators inculcating brainwashing children from their pre-school training forward. Ideological Marxist Socialist pseudo-educators have revised, rewritten history, misrepresented fact and inserted Marxist Socialism into every classroom. The brainwashed are taught that government should provide them with everything in life without any contribution from them. They are a generation of takers. They don't want to work or think. They believe they are owed something. In answer to Dr. Williams’ question, I would say mislead, lied too and stupid. An innately inquisitive intelligent person can, and probably will overcome faulty teaching. A sensible person can eventually wake up to reality. Those who can’t are simply stupid.
Remember kindergarten children taught to sing the praises of Barack Hussein Obama. This was not only done with the children in the video, it was widely done.
School children sing praises to their savior Obama

Well, no. Communism (Boo, Hiss), is great in theory. But unfortunately history shows that it just isn't practical given the human condition. People are selfish and greedy, and that's why Soviet Russia collapsed and Chinese abandoned the austere bleak communist system. Some people are idealists, and they just don't believe the lessons of History.

 

[Markle]

And what exactly do you think is transpiring under our capitalist system if not the consolidation of wealth and power?

Even you don't believe that line. You just want to bicker. Hmmm...doesn't that mean you're a troll?

 

[Soupnazi630]

That is an honest statement and I think common among the modern American conservative. Though most won't admit it, or don't realize it.

Most don’t realize that it is the proper, natural order of things for those who earn to be granted more than those who don’t and especially those who take. If you want the benefits of Society, you need to add something to the Society.

No one disputes that. Not even Karl Marx.

Yes but marx was a proven a fool.

Now answer my questions

 

[Markle]

And what exactly do you think is transpiring under our capitalist system if not the consolidation of wealth and power?

In "our capitalist system" do workers remain in the same income bracket their entire lives?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism always becomes Oppressive Totalitarianism. Socialism is just the gateway to Communism. It is the consolidation of wealth, and power to the elite few.

And what exactly do you think is transpiring under our capitalist system if not the consolidation of wealth and power?

there is certainly no dictatorship as you claim. You cannot demonstrate it or offer any evidence of any kind.

Your claim of conditioning is foolish as you would be equally conditioned and unable to see it or say anything about it. You are not especially gifted or granted special insight or vision your entire claim is a massive proven failure

But there would be under communism.

Explain why we would exchange one for the other.

 

[MaryL]

The thing about Churchill's remarks on Communism (The last part), the "equal sharing of misery" part. Not true. The elitists leaders in the communist party NEVER shared anything. They had luxury dachas, limousines, bodyguards, special food, the usual stuff that derails egalitarianism. That is egg-sactly why communism failed, people always sort themselves into classes. Communism is like cold fusion, it just isn't feasible given how things really work.

 

[Pilot1]

The thing about Churchill's remarks on Communism (The last part), the "equal sharing of misery" part. Not true. The elitists leaders in the communist party NEVER shared anything. They had luxury dachas, limousines, bodyguards, special food, the usual stuff that derails egalitarianism. That is egg-sactly why communism failed, people always sort themselves into classes. Communism is like cold fusion, it just isn't feasible given how things really work.

True. The Party leadership, and elites share all the wealth. However, the vast majority of people suffer under Communism. It is the consolidation of wealth, and power to the few elites, and their connected friends. It always become Totalitarian OPPRESSION.

 

[Dragonlady]

There are some things that are best left to individuals.

There are some things that are best done collectively - the strength of numbers - or economies of scale.

Finding the right balance between the two is a challenge for most modern nations.

In the United States, given our leading role in the Cold War - defending against Hyper-Socialism-Gone-Wrong...

Socialism is a dirty word...

Many beyond our borders to not understand how such a state of affairs could develop or continue to exist...

They, on the other hand, were not stuck providing the Shield for 50 years for others who did not want to fall under the heel of the Kremlin.

Socialism, in moderation, can be just the ticket to solve problem A or B or C...

But it won't solve D or E or F, and it easily goes astray if not periodically pruned (or have its ears boxed) to put it back in its place.

Fear-mongering about Socialism in the US is a residual vestige of the Cold War and seems to be slowly fading from the national consciousness.

The idea that the United States was somehow forced to protect the rest of the world from communism is just right wing bullshit. No one forced the USA to do this. Americans were positively rabid in their fear of communism in the 1950's and beyond. Now conservatives are rewriting history to make it sound like the USA was somehow forced or obligated to defend the rest of the world, instead of Americans wanted to hold back the advance of the communist agenda.

Not only did the US lead the defense against communism, they also equipped anti-communist forces throughout the world (some of which were much worse than the communists they oppposed), and made a lot of money for the military industrial complex in the process.

The whole point of your worldwide network of bases was to protect "American interests" throughout the world. "American interests" can best be described in American corporate property and infrastructure. Genocides and wars having nothing to do with communism or where American corporations didn't have a strong foothold, were utterly ignored.

A large part of the desire to contain the growth of communism in areas where American corporations were doing business was strictly commercial. The US was thrown out of Cuba, and many Americans owned property on the island which was then confiscated by the communists. And the American taxpayer paid for this.

So don't pretend that the US was "shielding the world from communism". They were protecting American property and American markets. American oil companies owned a lot of property in Kuwait. And I want to stress that while American corporations have been the primary beneficiaries of American foreign policy, they have not been told that THEY need to pay a larger percentage of the costs of this protection.

When the UN asked the USA to go into Bosnia to help stop the genocide there, Republicans were adamantly opposed to such intervention, saying the "US had no business interfering in a local, civil war". Republicans have never met a war they couldn't get behind. The operative phrase was "no business". This was a former communist country just emerging from behind the Iron Curtain. Of course the US had no business, or investment there. If you look at a history of American intervention in conflicts outside the US, you will note that the "American interests" being protected, are always the property owned by American corporations, and markets for Americans goods and services.

Don't try to pretend that Americans have been used and abused by their NATO Allies for our own benefit. We didn't demand that you build this huge military and protect us all. You did that all by yourselves, and for your own reasons.

 

[Flash]

It takes a really dumbass moron to think that taking money from the people that earned it and giving it away to the greedy little shitheads that didn't earn it will somehow make a country more prosperous.

Just like the morons that thinks bigger government and higher taxes is the road to prosperity.

Of course these are mostly the same dumbasses that thought Obama was a good President, that Crooked Hillary was honest and qualified and have bought into this silly AGW scam hook, line and sinker so go figure. Not exactly the best and brightest, are they?

 

[danielpalos]

It takes a really dumbass moron to think that taking money from the people that earned it and giving it away to the greedy little shitheads that didn't earn it will somehow make a country more prosperous.

Just like the morons that thinks bigger government and higher taxes is the road to prosperity.

Of course these are mostly the same dumbasses that thought Obama was a good President, that Crooked Hillary was honest and qualified and have bought into this silly AGW scam hook, line and sinker so go figure. Not exactly the best and brightest, are they?

Can't finance our exorbitantly expensive superpower forever.

 

[bendog]

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid?​

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid? - Black Community News
By Walter Williams -- A recent Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation survey found that 51 percent of American millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist country than in a capitalist country. Only 42 percent prefer the latter (Forty-Four Percent of Millennials Prefer Socialism. Do They Know What It Means?). Twenty-five percent of millennials who know who Vladimir Lenin was view him favorably. Lenin was the first premier of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Half of millennials have never heard of Communist Mao Zedong, who ruled China from 1949 to 1959 and was responsible for the deaths of 45 million Chinese people.… The number of people who died at the hands of Josef Stalin may be as high as 62 million. However, almost one-third of millennials think former President George W. Bush is responsible for more killings than Stalin (How Many Millennials Think Bush Killed More Than Stalin). By the way, Adolf Hitler, head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, was responsible for the deaths of about 20 million people. The Nazis come in as a poor third in terms of history’s most prolific mass murderers. According to professor Rudolph Rummel’s research, the 20th century, mankind’s most brutal century, saw 262 million people’s lives destroyed at the hands of their own governments (20th Century Democide)…. Young people who weren’t alive during World War II and its Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery under capitalism.” This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are.... Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery. This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are bashing in each other’s heads” (Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins)…. Are Americans who admire the world’s most brutal regimes miseducated or stupid? Or do they have some kind of devious agenda?


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If Socialism is such an ideal utopia of sunshine, lollipops and everything wonderful then why was the damn Berlin Wall built in the first place? Why all the positive Hype by the biased media for Venezuela that is suffering hyper-inflation, people starving and seeking to leave despite the fact that before the Chavez - Marxist Socialist takeover was the richest country in South America. (Venezuela Before Chávez: Anatomy of an Economic Collapse Edited by Ricardo Hausmann and Francisco R. RodrÃ*guez).
Millennials today are the results decades of infiltration by socialist/communist propagandists posing as educators inculcating brainwashing children from their pre-school training forward. Ideological Marxist Socialist pseudo-educators have revised, rewritten history, misrepresented fact and inserted Marxist Socialism into every classroom. The brainwashed are taught that government should provide them with everything in life without any contribution from them. They are a generation of takers. They don't want to work or think. They believe they are owed something. In answer to Dr. Williams’ question, I would say mislead, lied too and stupid. An innately inquisitive intelligent person can, and probably will overcome faulty teaching. A sensible person can eventually wake up to reality. Those who can’t are simply stupid.
Remember kindergarten children taught to sing the praises of Barack Hussein Obama. This was not only done with the children in the video, it was widely done.
School children sing praises to their savior Obama

Wouldn't it properly be "or" rather than "and."

 

[toomuchtime_]

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid?​

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid? - Black Community News
By Walter Williams -- A recent Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation survey found that 51 percent of American millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist country than in a capitalist country. Only 42 percent prefer the latter (Forty-Four Percent of Millennials Prefer Socialism. Do They Know What It Means?). Twenty-five percent of millennials who know who Vladimir Lenin was view him favorably. Lenin was the first premier of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Half of millennials have never heard of Communist Mao Zedong, who ruled China from 1949 to 1959 and was responsible for the deaths of 45 million Chinese people.… The number of people who died at the hands of Josef Stalin may be as high as 62 million. However, almost one-third of millennials think former President George W. Bush is responsible for more killings than Stalin (How Many Millennials Think Bush Killed More Than Stalin). By the way, Adolf Hitler, head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, was responsible for the deaths of about 20 million people. The Nazis come in as a poor third in terms of history’s most prolific mass murderers. According to professor Rudolph Rummel’s research, the 20th century, mankind’s most brutal century, saw 262 million people’s lives destroyed at the hands of their own governments (20th Century Democide)…. Young people who weren’t alive during World War II and its Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery under capitalism.” This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are.... Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery. This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are bashing in each other’s heads” (Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins)…. Are Americans who admire the world’s most brutal regimes miseducated or stupid? Or do they have some kind of devious agenda?


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If Socialism is such an ideal utopia of sunshine, lollipops and everything wonderful then why was the damn Berlin Wall built in the first place? Why all the positive Hype by the biased media for Venezuela that is suffering hyper-inflation, people starving and seeking to leave despite the fact that before the Chavez - Marxist Socialist takeover was the richest country in South America. (Venezuela Before Chávez: Anatomy of an Economic Collapse Edited by Ricardo Hausmann and Francisco R. RodrÃ*guez).
Millennials today are the results decades of infiltration by socialist/communist propagandists posing as educators inculcating brainwashing children from their pre-school training forward. Ideological Marxist Socialist pseudo-educators have revised, rewritten history, misrepresented fact and inserted Marxist Socialism into every classroom. The brainwashed are taught that government should provide them with everything in life without any contribution from them. They are a generation of takers. They don't want to work or think. They believe they are owed something. In answer to Dr. Williams’ question, I would say mislead, lied too and stupid. An innately inquisitive intelligent person can, and probably will overcome faulty teaching. A sensible person can eventually wake up to reality. Those who can’t are simply stupid.
Remember kindergarten children taught to sing the praises of Barack Hussein Obama. This was not only done with the children in the video, it was widely done.
School children sing praises to their savior Obama

Wouldn't it properly be "or" rather than "and."

Since all the self described socialist states - China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam - are also communist states, and is the correct word.

List of socialist states - Wikipedia

 

[bendog]

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid?​

Are Americans Who Admire Socialism and Communism Miseducated or Stupid? - Black Community News
By Walter Williams -- A recent Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation survey found that 51 percent of American millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist country than in a capitalist country. Only 42 percent prefer the latter (Forty-Four Percent of Millennials Prefer Socialism. Do They Know What It Means?). Twenty-five percent of millennials who know who Vladimir Lenin was view him favorably. Lenin was the first premier of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Half of millennials have never heard of Communist Mao Zedong, who ruled China from 1949 to 1959 and was responsible for the deaths of 45 million Chinese people.… The number of people who died at the hands of Josef Stalin may be as high as 62 million. However, almost one-third of millennials think former President George W. Bush is responsible for more killings than Stalin (How Many Millennials Think Bush Killed More Than Stalin). By the way, Adolf Hitler, head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, was responsible for the deaths of about 20 million people. The Nazis come in as a poor third in terms of history’s most prolific mass murderers. According to professor Rudolph Rummel’s research, the 20th century, mankind’s most brutal century, saw 262 million people’s lives destroyed at the hands of their own governments (20th Century Democide)…. Young people who weren’t alive during World War II and its Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery under capitalism.” This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are.... Cold War aftermath might be forgiven for not knowing the horrors of socialism. Some of their beliefs represent their having been indoctrinated by their K-12 teachers and college professors. There was such leftist hate for former President George W. Bush that it’s not out of the question that those 32 percent of millennials were taught by their teachers and professors that Bush murdered more people than Stalin.... America’s communists, socialists and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” Joseph Goebbels wrote in 1925, “It would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery. This Nazi sentiment might be shared by Sen. Bernie Sanders and his comrade Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Goebbels added, “I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are bashing in each other’s heads” (Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins)…. Are Americans who admire the world’s most brutal regimes miseducated or stupid? Or do they have some kind of devious agenda?


~~~~~~
If Socialism is such an ideal utopia of sunshine, lollipops and everything wonderful then why was the damn Berlin Wall built in the first place? Why all the positive Hype by the biased media for Venezuela that is suffering hyper-inflation, people starving and seeking to leave despite the fact that before the Chavez - Marxist Socialist takeover was the richest country in South America. (Venezuela Before Chávez: Anatomy of an Economic Collapse Edited by Ricardo Hausmann and Francisco R. RodrÃ*guez).
Millennials today are the results decades of infiltration by socialist/communist propagandists posing as educators inculcating brainwashing children from their pre-school training forward. Ideological Marxist Socialist pseudo-educators have revised, rewritten history, misrepresented fact and inserted Marxist Socialism into every classroom. The brainwashed are taught that government should provide them with everything in life without any contribution from them. They are a generation of takers. They don't want to work or think. They believe they are owed something. In answer to Dr. Williams’ question, I would say mislead, lied too and stupid. An innately inquisitive intelligent person can, and probably will overcome faulty teaching. A sensible person can eventually wake up to reality. Those who can’t are simply stupid.
Remember kindergarten children taught to sing the praises of Barack Hussein Obama. This was not only done with the children in the video, it was widely done.
School children sing praises to their savior Obama

Wouldn't it properly be "or" rather than "and."

Since all the self described socialist states - China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam - are also communist states, and is the correct word.

List of socialist states - Wikipedia

I question the validity of your support. LOL

 

[bendog]

There are some things that are best left to individuals.

There are some things that are best done collectively - the strength of numbers - or economies of scale.

Finding the right balance between the two is a challenge for most modern nations.

In the United States, given our leading role in the Cold War - defending against Hyper-Socialism-Gone-Wrong...

Socialism is a dirty word...

Many beyond our borders to not understand how such a state of affairs could develop or continue to exist...

They, on the other hand, were not stuck providing the Shield for 50 years for others who did not want to fall under the heel of the Kremlin.

Socialism, in moderation, can be just the ticket to solve problem A or B or C...

But it won't solve D or E or F, and it easily goes astray if not periodically pruned (or have its ears boxed) to put it back in its place.

Fear-mongering about Socialism in the US is a residual vestige of the Cold War and seems to be slowly fading from the national consciousness.

The idea that the United States was somehow forced to protect the rest of the world from communism is just right wing bullshit. No one forced the USA to do this. Americans were positively rabid in their fear of communism in the 1950's and beyond. Now conservatives are rewriting history to make it sound like the USA was somehow forced or obligated to defend the rest of the world, instead of Americans wanted to hold back the advance of the communist agenda.

Not only did the US lead the defense against communism, they also equipped anti-communist forces throughout the world (some of which were much worse than the communists they oppposed), and made a lot of money for the military industrial complex in the process.

The whole point of your worldwide network of bases was to protect "American interests" throughout the world. "American interests" can best be described in American corporate property and infrastructure. Genocides and wars having nothing to do with communism or where American corporations didn't have a strong foothold, were utterly ignored.

A large part of the desire to contain the growth of communism in areas where American corporations were doing business was strictly commercial. The US was thrown out of Cuba, and many Americans owned property on the island which was then confiscated by the communists. And the American taxpayer paid for this.

So don't pretend that the US was "shielding the world from communism". They were protecting American property and American markets. American oil companies owned a lot of property in Kuwait. And I want to stress that while American corporations have been the primary beneficiaries of American foreign policy, they have not been told that THEY need to pay a larger percentage of the costs of this protection.

When the UN asked the USA to go into Bosnia to help stop the genocide there, Republicans were adamantly opposed to such intervention, saying the "US had no business interfering in a local, civil war". Republicans have never met a war they couldn't get behind. The operative phrase was "no business". This was a former communist country just emerging from behind the Iron Curtain. Of course the US had no business, or investment there. If you look at a history of American intervention in conflicts outside the US, you will note that the "American interests" being protected, are always the property owned by American corporations, and markets for Americans goods and services.

Don't try to pretend that Americans have been used and abused by their NATO Allies for our own benefit. We didn't demand that you build this huge military and protect us all. You did that all by yourselves, and for your own reasons.

We avoided WWIII, and I doubt the Russians would have stayed on their side of the Elbe but for our expenditures.

But I think you are more or less right now. Europe has no interest in defending the Baltics or Ukraine from Russia emerging as a totalitarian/non-free trade entity. We may "give" countries the means to take out tanks themselves, and we may even hazard a few thousand troops and jet aircraft. But I doubt the US will remove an air defense system again, as we did in Serbia and Libya at European request. Hopefully the US will not invade ME nations to do regieme change again.

 

[Flash]

It takes a really dumbass moron to think that taking money from the people that earned it and giving it away to the greedy little shitheads that didn't earn it will somehow make a country more prosperous.

Just like the morons that thinks bigger government and higher taxes is the road to prosperity.

Of course these are mostly the same dumbasses that thought Obama was a good President, that Crooked Hillary was honest and qualified and have bought into this silly AGW scam hook, line and sinker so go figure. Not exactly the best and brightest, are they?

Can't finance our exorbitantly expensive superpower forever.

Can't finance a filthy immoral budget breaking debt ridden welfare state forever, can we Moon Bat?