Are all of Biden’s pardons that were autopenned signed INVALID?

[Marener]

How can a Truth Social post revoke another president's pardon?

He wrote it. What else needs to be done?

 

[Marener]

I'll address that when you answer the questions you keep running away from.

You’ve been running away from this question the entire thread.

 

[ThisIsMe]

MAGA loves changing the rules to suit their political purposes.

Pardons only count for offenses committed before the pardon was granted. Not a few years later.

True, but you have to have an offense for someone to be pardoned. How do you determine who has committed an offense? Also, are pardons able to be open ended to cover any and all crimes someone may or may not have committed?

 

[ThisIsMe]

The person that the president says gets a pardon, gets a pardon.

a pardon for what?

 

[Marener]

a pardon for what?

Whatever the president says they’re pardoned for.

 

[Marener]

Also, are pardons able to be open ended to cover any and all crimes someone may or may not have committed?

They always have before.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Whatever the president says they’re pardoned for.

What would a President pardon someone for? Give me an example.

 

[ThisIsMe]

They always have before.

One time that I recall. And that person. Was caught red handed. The premtive pardon was probably not legal because Nixon hadn't been convicted of a crime, but, we knew he did from the evidence. The trial and conviction would have just been a formality.

Also in that case, we had a crime already known. Ford didn't pardon Nixon open ended for any and all crimes unknown.

 

[Marener]

What would a President pardon someone for? Give me an example.

Anything they want. Trump liked do pardon his cronies that lied to the FBI to protect him. It’s corrupt but legal.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Anything they want. Trump liked do pardon his cronies that lied to the FBI to protect him. It’s corrupt but legal.

So did trump pardon people who had not been convicted ?

 

[Marener]

One time that I recall. And that person. Was caught red handed. The premtive pardon was probably not legal because Nixon hadn't been convicted of a crime, but, we knew he did from the evidence. The trial and conviction would have just been a formality.

Also in that case, we had a crime already known. Ford didn't pardon Nixon open ended for any and all crimes unknown.

The Nixon pardon was for any and all known and unknown, that he committed or may have committed.

“Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.”

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Biden didn't pardon them, he granted them immunity and he doesn't have that authority.

No. It says on the paper that it is a pardon. Have a nice day tilting at windmills.

 

[Marener]

So did trump pardon people who had not been convicted ?

Yes he did. There are more than a few examples, but one comes to mind is Steve Bannon who was pending trial and not convicted.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I didn't "pardon" them, goofy.

How can someone be pardoned for something undefined?

If we find out that Hunter murdered one of his many prostitutes in 2019, do you think he should not be charged?

He was not pardoned for personal crimes. He was pardoned for crimes against the United States. Murder is an against an individual. There is a difference.

 

[buckeye]

So is he lying? What’s your point here?

You think Trump can revoke a pardon via a Truth Social post?

Stop being so stupid. That's my point.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't see how anyone can give "pre-emptive" pardons. Seems totally absurd to me.

There are no pre-emptive pardons for crimes not yet committed. That has a date range. Remember?

 

[SeaMajor7]

One time that I recall. And that person. Was caught red handed. The premtive pardon was probably not legal because Nixon hadn't been convicted of a crime, but, we knew he did from the evidence. The trial and conviction would have just been a formality.

Also in that case, we had a crime already known. Ford didn't pardon Nixon open ended for any and all crimes unknown.

That's correct. The Nixon excuse is WEAK defending these GRANTS OF IMMUNITY.

 

[Marener]

You think Trump can revoke a pardon via a Truth Social post?

Stop being so stupid. That's my point.

Why can’t he? He thinks he has the power to do all sorts of things just by thinking it. Like declassifying documents.

What do you think he has to do to revoke a pardon?

 

[buckeye]

Asking irrelevant questions gets old.

Yet you do it often when running from questions that you're afraid of.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

True, but you have to have an offense for someone to be pardoned. How do you determine who has committed an offense? Also, are pardons able to be open ended to cover any and all crimes someone may or may not have committed?

None of the pardons issued by Trump nor Biden are "open-ended".