Apparently the First Amendment Only Applies to Certain Journalists

[rightwinger]

Have you read the indictment? He livestreamed and said it was disruptive [I have not seen the Livestreams but the Grand Jury indicted and I they presume did].

That is called REPORTING

 

[OODA_Loop]

Churches are open to the general public and encourage people to come in

Churches are not places of public accommodation and certainly do not invite in disruptive or those disrespectful to the tenets they are teaching.

 

[marvin martian]

That is called REPORTING

Not according to the Klan Act, under which Lemon was fittingly charged.

 

[OODA_Loop]

That is called REPORTING

What other crimes can I have foreknowledge of, conspire to conceal and accompany that I can just then claim "reporting"

Abortion clinic interference, polling places, schools, government seats?

Can I know of a pending murder, child rape, bank robbery then accompany and conceal the activities in the name of journalism?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Mobs are not bound by the First Amendment
The Government is

/thread

 

[Hollie]

Lemon did not disrupt the service.
He went into the Church to report an event

Churches are open to the general public and encourage people to come in

A grand jury said otherwise.

When do churches invite in mobs?

 

[DStar777]

Mobs are not bound by the First Amendment

Ok. Are there any laws protecting the people these mobs tried to assault? I do recall there are laws against that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ok. Are there any laws protecting the people these mobs tried to assault? I do recall there are laws against that.

Laws against attempted assault?

Uh...no. Just assault.

 

[Hollie]

That is called REPORTING

Not when you are a part of a mob.

Tge grand jury indictment laughs at you.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Laws against attempted assault?

Uh...no. Just assault.

Yes, laws against "attempted assault" exist, though they are often technically prosecuted as simple assault or aggravated assault because the legal definition of assault itself frequently includes the attempt to cause harm.
Under many state laws, such as in Pennsylvania and Ohio, you do not have to successfully injure someone to be charged with a crime.

How "Attempted Assault" Is Charged
The specific charge depends on the intent and the severity of the intended harm:

• Simple Assault: This typically includes attempting to cause bodily injury. For example, swinging a punch at someone and missing is legally considered simple assault.
• Aggravated Assault: This applies if there was an attempt to cause serious bodily injury, such as using a deadly weapon or attempting to cause life-threatening harm.
• Physical Menace: You can be charged for attempting to put someone in fear of imminent serious bodily injury through threatening actions (e.g., brandishing a weapon), even if you never intended to actually strike them.

Penalties for Attempted Assault
Penalties vary by the degree of the charge and the state:

• Misdemeanor: Most simple (attempted) assaults are graded as second-degree misdemeanors, which can carry up to 2 years in prison and $5,000 in fines.
• Felony: If the attempt involved a deadly weapon or a protected official (like a police officer), it can be upgraded to a felony, carrying 10 to 20 years in prison.

Key Legal Elements
To convict someone of an "attempt" crime, prosecutors generally must prove two things:

1. Intent: The person specifically intended to commit the assault.
2. Substantial Step: The person took a "substantial step" toward completing the crime, moving beyond just thinking about it or making a vague verbal threat.

Google AI

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, laws against "attempted assault" exist, though they are often technically prosecuted as simple assault or aggravated assault because the legal definition of assault itself frequently includes the attempt to cause harm.
Under many state laws, such as in Pennsylvania and Ohio, you do not have to successfully injure someone to be charged with a crime.

How "Attempted Assault" Is Charged
The specific charge depends on the intent and the severity of the intended harm:

• Simple Assault: This typically includes attempting to cause bodily injury. For example, swinging a punch at someone and missing is legally considered simple assault.
• Aggravated Assault: This applies if there was an attempt to cause serious bodily injury, such as using a deadly weapon or attempting to cause life-threatening harm.
• Physical Menace: You can be charged for attempting to put someone in fear of imminent serious bodily injury through threatening actions (e.g., brandishing a weapon), even if you never intended to actually strike them.

Penalties for Attempted Assault
Penalties vary by the degree of the charge and the state:

• Misdemeanor: Most simple (attempted) assaults are graded as second-degree misdemeanors, which can carry up to 2 years in prison and $5,000 in fines.
• Felony: If the attempt involved a deadly weapon or a protected official (like a police officer), it can be upgraded to a felony, carrying 10 to 20 years in prison.

Key Legal Elements
To convict someone of an "attempt" crime, prosecutors generally must prove two things:

1. Intent: The person specifically intended to commit the assault.
2. Substantial Step: The person took a "substantial step" toward completing the crime, moving beyond just thinking about it or making a vague verbal threat.

Google AI

It's generally just charged as assault. What is an "attempted threat"? It's just a threat.

 

[rightwinger]

Not when you are a part of a mob.

Tge grand jury indictment laughs at you.

He wasn’t part of a mob
He identified himself at the scene as a reporter

The case will be thrown out

 

[Hollie]

He wasn’t part of a mob
He identified himself at the scene as a reporter

The case will be thrown out

“The case will be thrown out”….”because I’m a grad-uate of the USMB law School For The Silly.”

 

[toomuchtime_]

It's generally just charged as assault. What is an "attempted threat"? It's just a threat.

So attempted assault is charged as simple assault in many cases.

• Physical Menace: You can be charged for attempting to put someone in fear of imminent serious bodily injury through threatening actions (e.g., brandishing a weapon), even if you never intended to actually strike them.

Penalties for Attempted Assault
Penalties vary by the degree of the charge and the state:

• Misdemeanor: Most simple (attempted) assaults are graded as second-degree misdemeanors, which can carry up to 2 years in prison and $5,000 in fines.
• Felony: If the attempt involved a deadly weapon or a protected official (like a police officer), it can be upgraded to a felony, carrying 10 to 20 years in prison.

So attempted assault is taken as a serious crime by the law.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

 

[Dekster]

Worth reflecting on the fact that Don Lemon wasn’t treated this way by the people whose church he stormed into. They don’t revere journalism; they simply want the power to violently enforce their preferences with regard to which journalists get to do journalism.

The first amendment applies to the government actors, not "mobs"

 

[Mack The Finger]

As the Church Lady (my mom) would say...pray for them...they can't help themselves.

BTW: I'd bet the farm...9 out of 10 people in the reel live at home.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So attempted assault is charged as simple assault in many cases.

• Physical Menace: You can be charged for attempting to put someone in fear of imminent serious bodily injury through threatening actions (e.g., brandishing a weapon), even if you never intended to actually strike them.

Penalties for Attempted Assault
Penalties vary by the degree of the charge and the state:

• Misdemeanor: Most simple (attempted) assaults are graded as second-degree misdemeanors, which can carry up to 2 years in prison and $5,000 in fines.
• Felony: If the attempt involved a deadly weapon or a protected official (like a police officer), it can be upgraded to a felony, carrying 10 to 20 years in prison.

So attempted assault is taken as a serious crime by the law.

Yes, it's called "assault".

 

[Hollie]

Journalism used to be a respected career. Now DIE hire teleprompter readers like Lemon call themselves journalists.

 

[Mack The Finger]

The first amendment applies to the government actors, not "mobs"

Actually...it is freedom of expression out side the GOV but it melt into free speech.