Any word on the ID of the dead Coeur d'Alene sniper?

[RetiredGySgt]

A fact with no data is a wish. The data show that right wing organizations murders make up 90-95% of all extremist murders.

Every Extremist Murder in 2024 was committed by a right winger

Every Extremist Murderer in 2023 was a Right Wing Extremist

80% of Extremist Murders in 2022 were by Right Wing Extremists

90% of Extremist Murders in 2021 were by Right Wing Extremism

94% of 2020 Extremist Murders were by Right Wingers

your source is a leftwing extremist site.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Interesting. Let me make sure I understand your beliefs.
1) So you're agreeing that religion does better on every count, but you still deny that that God exists, I presume you believe the good results from Christian living have to do with attitude, rather than reality of God.

2_You believe it is better to do great things if you don't believe in God because there is no reward for yourself. But I would counter that If you're going that route, then you still have to attribute selfishness to atheists as well because good works produce a better earthly life.

But you still have to ask yourself why atheists seldom do these good works for others if it leads to a life with the best earthly results, and why there are no atheist counterparts to the canonized saints in terms of people of little means making great sacrifices and works for the benefit of many.

I appreciate your commentary. Usually, I hear denial of the results of Christianity. But sooner or later, wouldn't you have to ask yourself if there isn't something to this religion stuff?

The survival of our species mandates that we get along with others because if no one did, we would have long ago perished. Countless species are no longer here for one reason or another. They did not have the genetic makeup to survive the cold, the heat, the droughts, predators, disease, etc. With humans, we could have also gone extinct. Cavemen would hunt for shelter and instead of building their own would kill another caveman and take and rape his wife. This led to humans finding ways to protect their caves by telling their children they would be killed if they didn't listen to the family head by taking turns at guarding their cave and learning how to make and use a spear.

Fast forward to where humans survived the elements and learned how to kill and domesticate lower animals, they had to agree on cooperation among the tribal members. There is and was infighting among the members who grumbled about some members not pulling their weight or fuming about the rules the tribal chieftains laid down to control the tribe. Stiff penalties would be meted out for things such as killing a member of the tribe, theft of pelts or spears or food, and eventually, laws had to be handed down. Long before Moses existed, laws were put in place to control humans so that people could exist somewhat peacefully. Naturally, there were always those who would flaunt the laws and not get caught but those who did were put in confinement, tortured in the town square, hanged, had their heads cut off, hands cut off, were tarred and feathered. What they did to humans was gruesome and necessary to let those who disobeyed the laws know what would happen to them. FEAR sells and FEAR controls.

As I said, some devious intelligent humans got away with murder, theft, rape and all manner of horrible acts in spite of laws. Constantine, a ruthless murderer himself who killed his own wife and son, and was made a saint by the Catholic church, had trouble controlling the populace despite laws. Christianity was not an approved religion at the time but he saw a way to get help. He got with the high priests and ordered them to refine their doctrine to make it known to people that Jesus wasn't just a son of God but was also God himself (Trinity) and people needed to believe this and Jesus (God) demanded obedience or there would be hell to pay. This way, Constantine had an invisible enforcer who would make sure that if you got away with murder, you would pay in an afterlife.

So this was the control through fear and an ingenious one. You would pay a high price if you did not believe. This kept many people in check, and many Catholics use that line by saying something like C. S. Lewis (a disingenuous writer) said about risking eternal damnation if you didn't believe. The question is do believers stay "moral" to save their own hide or because it is the right thing to do for the advancement of the human race? I am not saying that the ruse isn't useful. I am saying that there does not have to be a "God" behind the ruse.

If people need the ruse and behave better with it, that doesn't mean the ruse is true, does it? Saying that it makes some people behave also does not make the story true. There are heinous murderers in jail who are devout Catholics and would kill another inmate if they disparaged Jesus or Mary. There are many nonbelievers who live good and moral lives. Denmark is a prime example.

Yes, some atheist rulers have killed millions. So have religious rulers. Morality is needed for societies to prosper. Some on the left scorn the morals and values that got humanity where it is and want to make up their own or allow people who steal and kill light sentences out of a sense that they had a bad childhood or (fill in the blanks). Would Christians run amok if they knew tomorrow there was no God enforcer after one dies? Maybe. I'm not so sure. For those who are moral because of that belief, so be it. That still doesn't make the belief true.

 

[Mashmont]

The survival of our species mandates that we get along with others because if no one did, we would have long ago perished. Countless species are no longer here for one reason or another. They did not have the genetic makeup to survive the cold, the heat, the droughts, predators, disease, etc. With humans, we could have also gone extinct. Cavemen would hunt for shelter and instead of building their own would kill another caveman and take and rape his wife. This led to humans finding ways to protect their caves by telling their children they would be killed if they didn't listen to the family head by taking turns at guarding their cave and learning how to make and use a spear.

Fast forward to where humans survived the elements and learned how to kill and domesticate lower animals, they had to agree on cooperation among the tribal members. There is and was infighting among the members who grumbled about some members not pulling their weight or fuming about the rules the tribal chieftains laid down to control the tribe. Stiff penalties would be meted out for things such as killing a member of the tribe, theft of pelts or spears or food, and eventually, laws had to be handed down. Long before Moses existed, laws were put in place to control humans so that people could exist somewhat peacefully. Naturally, there were always those who would flaunt the laws and not get caught but those who did were put in confinement, tortured in the town square, hanged, had their heads cut off, hands cut off, were tarred and feathered. What they did to humans was gruesome and necessary to let those who disobeyed the laws know what would happen to them. FEAR sells and FEAR controls.

As I said, some devious intelligent humans got away with murder, theft, rape and all manner of horrible acts in spite of laws. Constantine, a ruthless murderer himself who killed his own wife and son, and was made a saint by the Catholic church, had trouble controlling the populace despite laws. Christianity was not an approved religion at the time but he saw a way to get help. He got with the high priests and ordered them to refine their doctrine to make it known to people that Jesus wasn't just a son of God but was also God himself (Trinity) and people needed to believe this and Jesus (God) demanded obedience or there would be hell to pay. This way, Constantine had an invisible enforcer who would make sure that if you got away with murder, you would pay in an afterlife.

So this was the control through fear and an ingenious one. You would pay a high price if you did not believe. This kept many people in check, and many Catholics use that line by saying something like C. S. Lewis (a disingenuous writer) said about risking eternal damnation if you didn't believe. The question is do believers stay "moral" to save their own hide or because it is the right thing to do for the advancement of the human race? I am not saying that the ruse isn't useful. I am saying that there does not have to be a "God" behind the ruse.

If people need the ruse and behave better with it, that doesn't mean the ruse is true, does it? Saying that it makes some people behave also does not make the story true. There are heinous murderers in jail who are devout Catholics and would kill another inmate if they disparaged Jesus or Mary. There are many nonbelievers who live good and moral lives. Denmark is a prime example.

Yes, some atheist rulers have killed millions. So have religious rulers. Morality is needed for societies to prosper. Some on the left scorn the morals and values that got humanity where it is and want to make up their own or allow people who steal and kill light sentences out of a sense that they had a bad childhood or (fill in the blanks). Would Christians run amok if they knew tomorrow there was no God enforcer after one dies? Maybe. I'm not so sure. For those who are moral because of that belief, so be it. That still doesn't make the belief true.

The theory about genetic self-interest runs around with the Christian teaching of self-sacrifice and turning the other cheek. If you believe every teaching of Jesus is correct, then you are a Christian, whether you recognize it or not.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

The theory about genetic self-interest runs around with the Christian teaching of self-sacrifice and turning the other cheek. If you believe every teaching of Jesus is correct, then you are a Christian, whether you recognize it or not.

Who knows what he said? Maybe he said what I did on my post. No one knows. You are vliaming he said things based on claims of 30-60 years after he was hung for sedition.

 

[beagle9]

If it was a Muslim guy your world would be imploding right now. Since it was a white maga dude it’s no big deal.

You have no evidence that it was a white MAGA dude. Actually he does look like a middle eastern guy no kidding.

 

[beagle9]

Sure, but you act as if the left doesn't do this kind of stuff.

The left instigates all of it, and then it hides it's hand when the chit hits the fan.

 

[beagle9]

The right is as bad as the left when this sort of thing happens as both "sides" just hope it is their own personal boogeyman.

Perhaps the real boogeyman is broken families.....Both "sides" own that one these days.

That said the right-leaning have more to lose as far as 2A rights go given the knee-jerk reactions of the howling left, MSM, and politicians.

The bottom line is trying to apply logic to a crazy person's thoughts/actions does not work.

The left are the usual suspects and instigators, when upon the other hand the right is slow to react to the bull chit until it does, then the reaction is jumped on quickly by the leftist where it is then enhanced as if the right was the bully all along. What a nefarious game it is.

 

[beagle9]

Nope, the hate is taught at HOME.

All depends...

 

[Picaro]

I never could get why nutjobs go after firemen. Just bizarre. Ghetto rats do that a lot as well, when they're burning down and robbing their own neighborhoods..

 

[Picaro]

I am a staunch conservative and not a Marxist. What you and others miss is that what all of you believe is a story crafted by ancient and ignorant humans who wanted a following that gave them adulation, acclaim, a job, and lots of money. For a Jewish Rabbi who ostensibly was God and wrapped up in 3 flavors in one like Wrigley's chewing gum, nowhere outside of the bible was he mentioned as performing miracles or being "God" himself. It took decades for unknown people to make up a story about him being some savior of mankind. He said that we are ALL sons of god and never did say HE was god.

It wasn't until almost 300 YEARS after he died that the Trinity was conceived in order to elevate Jesus to God status.

Hey, like that Julius Caesar guy; nobody ever heard of him until much later on, when he got noticed by historians reading some Latin writing stuff. He was never mentioned in Chinese stories or any Aztecs of the time until many centuries later! Must have been a hoax!

 

[JustAnotherNut]

If true citygator looks like an unhinged asshole.

Looks like????


He is and always has been.......and maybe that's the thing, he's a 'has been'

 

[beagle9]

Not to worry. Some FBI agent will find a way to say "This was another WHITE right-wing extremist terrorist."

Thought Cash Patel cleaned those types out ?

 

[beagle9]

He was a white extremist terrorist. Setting a fire to ambush firefighters is extremist terrorism yes?

Nah it's just a heinous crime committed by a looney. Race means nothing in these types of cases because it wasn't racially motivated.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Hey, like that Julius Caesar guy; nobody ever heard of him until much later on, when he got noticed by historians reading some Latin writing stuff. He was never mentioned in Chinese stories or any Aztecs of the time until many centuries later! Must have been a hoax!

Don't you just love Copilot?

That comparison is clever-sounding but historically off the mark. Let’s unpack it.

### Julius Caesar: Contemporary Recognition
Julius Caesar was very much known in his own time:

• He wrote about himself: His Commentarii de Bello Gallico (Commentaries on the Gallic War) was widely circulated during his lifetime as political propaganda.
• Contemporaries wrote about him: Cicero, a fellow Roman statesman, referenced Caesar in speeches and letters. Sallust, another contemporary, also wrote about events involving Caesar.
• He was a public figure: As consul, general, and dictator, Caesar’s actions shaped the Roman Republic. His assassination in 44 BCE was a seismic political event, not a posthumous legend.
• No one expected the Chinese or Aztecs to mention him: Those civilizations had no contact with Rome. Their silence isn’t suspicious—it’s geographically and culturally expected.

### Jesus of Nazareth: A Different Context
Jesus, by contrast:

• Was not a political leader or military figure: He was a rural Jewish teacher executed as a criminal in a remote Roman province.
• Left no writings of his own: His teachings were passed down orally before being written decades later.
• Was mentioned by non-Christian sources: Roman historian Tacitus and Jewish historian Josephus both reference Jesus within a century of his death.
• The delay in written accounts reflects the norms of oral tradition and the marginal status of early Christians—not evidence of fabrication.

### False Equivalence
The argument that Caesar and Jesus are equally “late inventions” because they weren’t mentioned by unrelated civilizations is a rhetorical sleight of hand. Caesar was a head of state; Jesus was a crucified preacher. Their historical footprints are naturally different in scale and immediacy.

If someone’s trying to argue Jesus was a hoax because he wasn’t instantly documented by every culture on Earth, they’re not engaging with how history—or ancient communication—actually worked.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Thought Cash Patel cleaned those types out ?

In order to clean out the rot and stench of the FBI, Kash would have to start brand new. The culture changed there to anti-American and certainly anti-conservative, where they considered conservatives to be stupid factory workers shopping at Walmart.

 

[beagle9]

In order to clean out the rot and stench of the FBI, Kash would have to start brand new. The culture changed there to anti-American and certainly anti-conservative, where they considered conservatives to be stupid factory workers shopping at Walmart.

Will Bondi and Kash succeed or fail in doing what will end up being a huge task at clearing the FBI of it's rot ?

 

[citygator]

Looks like the right has finally come to terms that its movement has some serious issues with violence. Bravo. Now do something about it.

 

[Failzero]

Social Liberalism has ruined the CIA

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Will Bondi and Kash succeed or fail in doing what will end up being a huge task at clearing the FBI of it's rot ?

Will the people in Kalifornia ever succeed in ridding it of Marxists? Questions, questions. Some with no known answers such as "Where did we come from? Why are we here? Was God lonely? Was God sadistic? Who ran the Rainbow House while Biden ate pudding?

 

[Failzero]

Will the people in Kalifornia ever succeed in ridding it of Marxists? Questions, questions. Some with no known answers such as "Where did we come from? Why are we here? Was God lonely? Was God sadistic? Who ran the Rainbow House while Biden ate pudding?

44 of California’s 58 Counties are Red