Any reason we should expect Obamacare itself, to work any better than its website?

[candycorn]

And you kids can stay on the insurance you have until they're 26

Unless your plan gets cancelled, as hundreds of thousands have.

The main reason insurers have discontinued these plans is that the policies fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires starting Jan. 1. By all accounts, the replacement policies will offer consumers better coverage, in some cases, for comparable cost -- especially after the inclusion of federal subsidies for those who qualify.

Thousands Of Consumers Get Insurance Cancellation Notices Due To Health Law Changes - Kaiser Health News

I think there is probably some morons who think "Obamacare" is an insurance plan in and of itself.

 

[Neotrotsky]

So the promise by Papa Obama that premiums would go down by $2,500 is true?

well that is good to know

 

[Flopper]

We should thank the TeaPs for all of their constructive criticism of the website.

The focus is getting it up to specs, and that is happening.

And, of course, that puts the TeaPs out of business in the long run.

I'm afraid you're going to have to wait a long time to see anything come out of the TP. They still have no plan for healthcare other than turning the clock back, which come to think about it is the Tea Party plan for everything.

 

[Qball]

The administration should certainly be held responsible for the poor performance of the web site, but the problems on web site have little to do with the law. I have no doubt that the federal web site will be running satisfactory within a few weeks and that there will be a number of enhancements before it opens in Oct 2014. The same thing happened when the Medicare website opened.

You're kind of missing the point. While you're right that the website and the law are not the same thing, the point Republicans have been making all this time is that the government can't (nee shouldn't) undertake massive centralized plans like this given the fact that every time they've done it, the program becomes 1) way more expensive than anticipated, 2) a cesspool of waste and fraud, and 3) costly to the very taxpayers they're supposed to help.

Since they couldn't even efficiently roll out the website for people to sign up for the boondoggle, it's highly likely much of the other promise of Obamacare will only be marginally realized, if it is realized at all. Not to mention Obama's "if you like your current plan you can keep it" statement has become his "Mission Accomplished".

 

[BDBoop]

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[Flopper]

Unless your plan gets cancelled, as hundreds of thousands have.

The main reason insurers have discontinued these plans is that the policies fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires starting Jan. 1. By all accounts, the replacement policies will offer consumers better coverage, in some cases, for comparable cost -- especially after the inclusion of federal subsidies for those who qualify.

Thousands Of Consumers Get Insurance Cancellation Notices Due To Health Law Changes - Kaiser Health News

I think there is probably some morons who think "Obamacare" is an insurance plan in and of itself.

I've tried to correct them, but as the saying goes, "none are so blind as those who will not see."

 

[Neotrotsky]

The administration should certainly be held responsible for the poor performance of the web site, but the problems on web site have little to do with the law. I have no doubt that the federal web site will be running satisfactory within a few weeks and that there will be a number of enhancements before it opens in Oct 2014. The same thing happened when the Medicare website opened.

You're kind of missing the point. While you're right that the website and the law are not the same thing, the point Republicans have been making all this time is that the government can't (nee shouldn't) undertake massive centralized plans like this given the fact that every time they've done it, the program becomes 1) way more expensive than anticipated, 2) a cesspool of waste and fraud, and 3) costly to the very taxpayers they're supposed to help.

Since they couldn't even efficiently roll out the website for people to sign up for the boondoggle, it's highly likely much of the other promise of Obamacare will only be marginally realized, if it is realized at all. Not to mention Obama's "if you like your current plan you can keep it" statement has become his "Mission Accomplished".

Please

you can't measure the extreme left based on the results of their plans.
We have spent over 15 trillion on the Great Society programs since 1964
and have the same rate of poverty, today

Johnson even said back in 1964 :

“Every dollar spent will result in savings to the country and especially to the
local taxpayers in the cost of crime, welfare, of health and of police protection.”

“We are not content to accept the endless growth of relief rolls or welfare rolls.”

“Our American answer to poverty is not to make the poor more secure in their
poverty but to reach down and to help them lift themselves out of the ruts of
poverty and move with the large majority along the high road of hope and
prosperity.”

“The days of the dole in our country are numbered.”
​

Almost sounds like
you can keep your plan
keep your doctor
premiums will go down $2400

Makes one wonder, if the promises that Papa Obamacare would be revenue neutral
were true, as well.

 

[Neotrotsky]

.

Really a man who had to take a plea bargain for perjury

If he lied then how do you know he is not lying now

 

[Flopper]

The administration should certainly be held responsible for the poor performance of the web site, but the problems on web site have little to do with the law. I have no doubt that the federal web site will be running satisfactory within a few weeks and that there will be a number of enhancements before it opens in Oct 2014. The same thing happened when the Medicare website opened.

You're kind of missing the point. While you're right that the website and the law are not the same thing, the point Republicans have been making all this time is that the government can't (nee shouldn't) undertake massive centralized plans like this given the fact that every time they've done it, the program becomes 1) way more expensive than anticipated, 2) a cesspool of waste and fraud, and 3) costly to the very taxpayers they're supposed to help.

Since they couldn't even efficiently roll out the website for people to sign up for the boondoggle, it's highly likely much of the other promise of Obamacare will only be marginally realized, if it is realized at all. Not to mention Obama's "if you like your current plan you can keep it" statement has become his "Mission Accomplished".

Please

you can't measure the extreme left based on the results of their plans.
We have spent over 15 trillion on the Great Society programs since 1964
and have the same rate of poverty, today

Johnson even said back in 1964 :

“Every dollar spent will result in savings to the country and especially to the
local taxpayers in the cost of crime, welfare, of health and of police protection.”

“We are not content to accept the endless growth of relief rolls or welfare rolls.”

“Our American answer to poverty is not to make the poor more secure in their
poverty but to reach down and to help them lift themselves out of the ruts of
poverty and move with the large majority along the high road of hope and
prosperity.”

“The days of the dole in our country are numbered.”
​

Almost sounds like
you can keep your plan
keep your doctor
premiums will go down $2400

Makes one wonder, if the promises that Papa Obamacare would be revenue neutral
were true, as well.

Your generalizations amaze me.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Indeed,

The truth is hard for the left
In fact, it is their worst enemy

Hey, I am on board with the concept...

It is your intentions that matter
not actual results

After all, the last thing we want is people
looking at the results of failed liberal programs